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Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?  
User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2436 times:

I tried doing a search on this and I really couldn't come up with anything, so I turn to the legions with my question.

I'm curious to know: do any cruciform runway configurations exist anywhere in the world?

By cruciform, I mean a geometric cross: two lines bisecting each other at a 90 degree angle. I'm more interested in the addition-sign (+) kind than the more commonly-thought of Christian obelus (†) interpretation.

As a bonus, do any actually fall on the four cardinal compass points?

Any light that can be shed on this will be most appreciated.

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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

Well, LGA for one has two runways (and only 2) which form an X.


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

How about MDW?

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or SFO?

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21531 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

BUR is very close.

Runways are basically a cross. Despite their runway numbers, 1 is E-W, the other is 10 degrees of N-S.

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User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2818 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

BHX, although I think the crosswind runway is now obsolete. What about Bournmouth.

User currently onlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3376 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

If i'm understanding this right I would say SFO, YYC, YHZ have these runway configs in some way.


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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Check out Cecil Field (KVQQ) near Jacksonville... They have two sets of 9/27 and 18/36 runways crossing each other



User currently offlineDL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

Do they have to be commercial airports? There are hundreds of general aviation airports in the U.S. alone that have runways that intersect at 90 degrees. It used to be quite common to have a "crosswind runway" so that planes could always take off and land pretty much into the wind.


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Continuing the search...

CVG-

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User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

Flying Cloud, FCM has two east-west runways and one north south.

User currently offlineJsposaune From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 292 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

pretty sure SAV has 18/36 and 9/27, too. I'd look it up, but I gotta run!!


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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

Many thanks to one and all for the flurry of responses.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 2):
Not exactly what you want...but close...enough...for government work... Wink

Haha, no no, both are excellent examples. Many thanks for pulling 'em out!

Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 7):
Do they have to be commercial airports?

Nope, not at all. The more the merrier, lol.

Quoting Poitin (Reply 9):
Flying Cloud, FCM has two east-west runways and one north south.

Awesome. I figured that the percentages were in favor of this occurring, but one never knows.

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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21634 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

FAR has a 18-36 and a 9-27. Also a 15-33.

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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2233 times:
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...And good 'ol 2H4. Ironically, despite having lived only a few miles from the airport, I didn't realize the identifier was 2H4 until after registering my username.  biggrin 






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User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1001 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

gso

5-23 and 32-14



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5111 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2179 times:

PIA:


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User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2153 times:


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not a cruciform, but i always thought DEN looked like a swastika, and have seen it from the air many many times flying to/from SLC

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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 13):
...And good 'ol 2H4. Ironically, despite having lived only a few miles from the airport, I didn't realize the identifier was 2H4 until after registering my username. biggrin

Lol. I love how it's a grass field too. Ahh, takes you back, don't it?

After looking at all the airports noted, I saw that BHX and GRR were obelus in pattern; YHZ and GSO resemble a capital "T"; and MDW and 2H4 make great Greek crosses (your standard "+"), with a few of SFO's runways representative, too.

YYC is most interesting in its own right, as it's almost a backwards Slavonic cross; it's just missing one short cross piece. What's more, some of those airports that are x-ish make great saltires on the landscape.

I'm amazed that there are several N/S-E/W airports out there. What's more, I never realized I regularly flew into one of 'em (CVG)!

I realize that runways crossing and intersecting each other is a pretty standard affair, but as a kid, I remember that many books, movies, and pictures pretty consistently depicted airports in a cruciform manner, and I was never sure if this ever carried over to the real world.

Thanks to you guys, now I know. And knowing is half the battle.  biggrin 



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User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1628 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2103 times:

FWA (my hometown airport) has two intersecting runways:

*5/23
*14/32


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User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

Oh, I forgot about DVC That is Da Vinci Code; it is a small airport somewhere between Heaven and Hell. It has a true cruciform runway Big grin

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6835 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

But as to the original question, no, I can't think of an airport that currently has a pair of runways that are perpendicular bisectors of each other. Offhand I don't know of an airport in the past, either, but I'll look a bit.

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1869 times:

HAM has two intersecting runways, RW 05/23 and 15/33.

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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1743 times:

IND was like this until the 70s or 80s:



Before that, what is marked "X X X" in the above diagram was an active runway, and 5/23 L/R were not built.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1728 times:

Reno/Cannon does as well.


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