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Boston-Maine Airways Seeking BED-IAD & BED-PIT  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3047 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

Courtesy: The Boston Globe

Airline Seeks More Hanscom Routes
By Davis Bushnell, Globe Correspondent | March 26, 2006

BEDFORD -- For some time, commercial aviation at Hanscom Field has taken a back seat to corporate jet activity. But big changes are afoot as Boston-Maine Airways prepares to launch service to the Washington, D.C., area in mid-May and to Pittsburgh by the end of June.

Portsmouth, N.H.-based Boston-Maine has been serving Trenton, N.J., from the Bedford airport since March 2004. It offers five round trips a day, five days a week.

''Positive input" from business travelers from throughout the suburbs served by Hanscom prompted the small airline to expand its service, Boston-Maine Chief Executive David Fink said in a telephone interview Wednesday.

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http://www.boston.com/news/local/art...airline_seeks_more_hanscom_routes/

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User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2223 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Awesome!

I know many people around Bedford dont like the idea of frequent aircraft, but hey, Logan is being overwhelmed and its only natural for people to move into Bedford. Anywho as a Burgh resident, SWEET! I'l get to see Pan Am again. Good for BMA!


ATCT



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3997 times:

This is excellent news! Now if the BED-TTN fare wasent 400 bucks R/T I may just give them a try....  Sad


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User currently offlineINTENSS From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

Nothing indicated in the article, what type are they planning on using on these routes? The J31's??

-Rich


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3746 times:

Quoting INTENSS (Reply 3):
Nothing indicated in the article, what type are they planning on using on these routes? The J31's??

Most likely....I would think that BED-PIT is a pretty long flight on a J31 though.

Having been associated with BMA in the past, I find it hard to get excited on any news from them, but good for BED



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3685 times:

Great. Just what PIT needs. Another shot of PA III, or is it IV? That airline is such a disgrace to what PA was and will always be: The World's Most Experienced Airline. It was great to see a PA 727, but if the loads don't work, scrap it!


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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Quoting INTENSS (Reply 3):
Nothing indicated in the article, what type are they planning on using on these routes? The J31's??

yup. Thats all the contract allows up here. The 727 flying is only down south from ATL, SJU, and SFB..



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

Quoting ATCT (Reply 1):
I know many people around Bedford dont like the idea of frequent aircraft, but hey, Logan is being overwhelmed and its only natural for people to move into Bedford. Anywho as a Burgh resident, SWEET! I'l get to see Pan Am again. Good for BMA!

Pan Am returns to the Burgh?!! sweet!!! Big grin It looks like there will be PIT-Trenton, Hanscom, and Portsmouth. That should be good for the burgh as well. I look forward to seeing this. I know that the article did not specify on its ops out of PIT, but I do wonder which gate they will operate out of. I imagine the old FlyI gate on C if nobody took that over, unless USA3k might go to that to make room for B6 as suggested in a previous thread about B6 serving PIT...



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User currently offlineMajorNelson From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3493 times:

ROFLMAO !!!!!

Bedford MA to Pittsburgh and Washington in a JETSTREAM 31 !!???

I think I'd rather be dragged naked over broken glass than to have to ride in one of those HORRIBLE things for 2+ hours ... OMFFFFG !

They've done some weird things before .. but this one takes the prize.


User currently offlineJsposaune From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 291 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3446 times:

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 8):
I think I'd rather be dragged naked over broken glass than to have to ride in one of those HORRIBLE things for 2+ hours

He-he...was thinking the same thing! I rode BWI-SYR on a J41 and I was ready to gnaw off my own arm! Can't even imagine the 31!!!!



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User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Quoting Jsposaune (Reply 9):
I rode BWI-SYR on a J41 and I was ready to gnaw off my own arm

AHHH.. the old US run on Transstates... man I hated those planes..

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 8):
I think I'd rather be dragged naked over broken glass than to have to ride in one of those HORRIBLE things for 2+ hours ... OMFFFFG !

Thats funny.... I agree though... I flew them ACY-PSM which was 1hr 45min... I actually thought we'd never make it..



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

Damn, the jetstreams??? Sardine cans with wings?? Never flew on one, and I don't think I want to, especially after reading the above posts...


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User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2223 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 7):
I imagine the old FlyI gate on C if nobody took that over,

JetBlue is moving in there.

-ATCT



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

UA will probably handle them, just like they did before. But you never know, maybe DGS will get it.


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User currently offlineBDL2DCA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

Quoting Nkops (Reply 10):
Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 8):I think I'd rather be dragged naked over broken glass than to have to ride in one of those HORRIBLE things for 2+ hours ... OMFFFFG !
Thats funny.... I agree though... I flew them ACY-PSM which was 1hr 45min... I actually thought we'd never make it..

As a frequent traveler who got to go to such rockin' cities as Jackson TN; Garden City, KS; Sioux City, IA; and Grand Island, NE, the only aircraft I refused to set foot on was the J31/J41. I took a trip on ACA from IAD to ROC on one of those and I swear I was ready to jump out somewhere over Pennsylvania.

My travel agent always laughed at me because I'd fly on a BE1, a DH8, an EM2, but not a J41!!



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Quoting ATCT (Reply 12):
JetBlue is moving in there.

Oh, right, forgot about that... my bad



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User currently offlineNewkai From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 8):
Bedford MA to Pittsburgh and Washington in a JETSTREAM 31 !!???

I think I'd rather be dragged naked over broken glass than to have to ride in one of those HORRIBLE things for 2+ hours ... OMFFFFG !

Is the J-31 the one with the hump in the middle you have to step over to get to the back seats? I flew in that one once, BGM-IAD, in 2003 I think. The captain told me it was the last week or so ACA was flying the plane. Since there was no flight attendant (no room), they just left the cockpit door open.


User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3210 times:

Quoting Newkai (Reply 16):
Is the J-31 the one with the hump in the middle

yup...



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User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

You're also going to have the whole weight restriction problem.... when they flew the ACY-PSM route, the most pax they could take was 14.....

I imagine it'll be around 12 for these routes



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User currently offlineMkirch72 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

Not to mention BMA is notorious for announcing service to certain destinations and then pulling out before they even started (think Youngstown). So I wouldn't get your hopes up.

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

I think airlines wishing to start service at Hanscom should consider Gulfstreams, Citations, and Lears so all the NIMBYs there will just think they're 'one of their own' and pay no attention.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

How could they dream of making money on a heavily restricted 19 seater? This seems crazy, and who's going to pay to sit in one of those rolls from toilet paper for that long when B6 and US are about to start a head to head war on PIT-BOS, not to mention JetBlue is on BOS-IAD already.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 20):
I think airlines wishing to start service at Hanscom should consider Gulfstreams, Citations, and Lears so all the NIMBYs there will just think they're 'one of their own' and pay no attention.

Hell, buy an old Gulfstream, squeeze a bunch of (15 or so?) seats into it in a "corporate shuttle" configuration, and it might be more economic than a Jetstream restricted to 12 out of 19. The Gulfstream would be flying with a better load, and be making that run in just over 1 hour VS 2.5 or so for the Junkstream, cutting on crew costs and aiding utilization greatly. Either way, they're going to lose a bunch of money anyways it seems.


Edited, because my wording looked as if US/B6 were battling PIT-IAD.



[Edited 2006-03-29 03:59:21]

User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 21):
How could they dream of making money on a heavily restricted 19 seater? This seems crazy, and who's going to pay to sit in one of those rolls from toilet paper for that long when B6 and US are about to start a head to head war on PIT-BOS, not to mention BOS-IAD already.

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Come to think of it, let B6 and US have at it...  box 



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

Quoting BDL2DCA (Reply 14):
My travel agent always laughed at me because I'd fly on a BE1, a DH8, an EM2, but not a J41!!

Gee i never know the Jetstreams were so bad... I thought they were comparable to the Beechcrats 1900 series. I have never flown in one, maybe i should keep it that way.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

Quoting BDL2DCA (Reply 14):
My travel agent always laughed at me because I'd fly on a BE1, a DH8, an EM2, but not a J41!!

I'd rather fly on a Beech1900 than a Saab 340. Even prefer a B1900 over a CRJ/DC9 (see also: DTW-CLE) if the route is under 150nm or so.


25 Steeler83 : And I would rather drive if that were the case. I am not sure I'd feel comfortable on a prop, but then that's just me...
26 Post contains images Tornado82 : I take it you're never getting a PPL then
27 Post contains images Steeler83 : I am not sure what you mean by a "PPL"... Is that some supremely small puddle jumper of an airplane, like a piper? Forgive me for not knowing what tha
28 Tornado82 : Private Pilots' License. If you ever plan on flying yourself, it's gonna be a prop, and a single engine piston at that. Because I don't know anyone y
29 Steeler83 : Thanks for the clarification... But even if that didn't scare me, I really could not get a PPL anyway... Type I diabetes patient here, unfortunately.
30 Post contains images Goldenshield : It's not how big it is; it's how you use it. Also, I would suggest you avoid walking into random hangers at the airport while on this 'puddle jumper'
31 COERJ145 : Are the SF3's really that bad? I get my first SF3 experience during april break on AmEagle.
32 Web : SF3s are fine; they are certainly quieter than the aft seats of a DC-9! I almost went deaf sitting in row 20 of a DC-9-30, but I'm not complaining ei
33 ATCRick : while they are not my favorite aircraft either, they have been safe. Unpleasant to fly in? Yes. As comfortable as the B-1900? No. But which type has
34 BDL2DCA : Trust me, I've had moments when I've questioned my sanity of getting on the B1900D. Especially while circling around a thunderhead positioned directl
35 NorthwestEWR : I like the JS31 and JS41, they might not be super comfortable but it's alot better than a CRJ !!!! Plus if its the JS31 they don't have a cockpit door
36 Post contains images Steeler83 : That was a good one, I had a good laugh out of it.
37 MajorNelson : When I worked for USAirways Express in NewHaven CT back in the 90s, we had a short lived service HVN-PIT. It was operated by a PSA Dornier 328 - from
38 Tornado82 : Such a fly by night operation sounds like what we get stuck with here at ABE with Doughty bragging it up as the greatest thing ever. (Transmeridian, H
39 ATCRick : tread lightly Tornado.....
40 Tornado82 : Like I said, "It wouldn't surprise me.... not saying anything against Allegiant just looking at history"
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