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LHR Terminal 2 To Be Closed  
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9185 times:

http://www.baa.co.uk/portal/controll...a%20Centre^News%20Releases^Results


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User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9173 times:

Interesting news...

Makes sense, and leaves space for development of the other terminals into that vacated area. Plus that puts things in line for more significant rationalisation of the central terminals in the future along with the proposed general ground plan changes.


User currently offlineThatplaneguy From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 82 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9173 times:

T2 needs an update. I dislike the cave like feel and claustrophobic atmosphere of the check-in areas there. Will they modernise the access to Terminals 1 to 3 at the same time?. That tunnell is a real bottleneck. We need to have a world class airport, lets hope the planners get it right this time.


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User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9135 times:

Nostalgia sets in. Memories of summer days on Queens Building with excellent views over the airfield and even a commentary at holiday times.

The tiny domestic departure area in the bottom right hand corner when facing the building which was closed when Terminal 1 opened.

The chaos of meeting European flights in the 1970s when upgrading work was being done and the problems of aircraft gettin stuck waiting for access and egress from the cul-de-sacs.


User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1569 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9135 times:

Well....it makes sense. But we still have Terminal 2 for two more years...............IMHO its the least pleasant terminal at LHR.


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User currently offlineZoheb From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9119 times:

Won't that reduce capacity, thus infact LHR will still only have 4 terminals?

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9084 times:

Quoting Zoheb (Reply 5):
Won't that reduce capacity, thus infact LHR will still only have 4 terminals?

The other terminals will expand and there is news of a "Heathrow East" I don't know much about it maybe someone else can shed some light.


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9053 times:

Maybe they'll turn it into a nice big viewing complex for us enthusiasts, Oh wait I forgot this is BAA we are talking about.  Wink


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User currently offlinePavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9034 times:

Although it is much newer I'd think that it would make more sense to raze T-4 and the other facilities to it's west to enable a third runway to the south of the current one.

Has such a development ever been considered?


User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9003 times:

So - I guess this confirms that stand availability at LHR will not improve at all? Unless the T2 stands will be treated as coaching stands for T1 and T3...?

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8987 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 6):
The other terminals will expand and there is news of a "Heathrow East" I don't know much about it maybe someone else can shed some light.

Basically it is part of the Heathrow Master Plan BAA unveiled in Nov'05. Subject to CAA approval, BAA want to knock down T2 and the Queen's Building to create a brand new terminal using that space and the area surrounding Terminal 1. It should look like this:

http://www.heathrowairport.com/assets/B2CPortal/Static%20Files/LHReast_birdseye.jpg

Plan can be read in full here:
Heathrow Master Plan / Heathrow 'East'


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8987 times:

T1 is currently being redeveloped to fit all the Star carriers in following T5's opening, although BAA and some Star carriers have had disputes about what needs to be done, with UA, LH and BMI arguing that the redevelopment does not go far enough.
As a result (as i understand it) T2 will be rebuilt in time for the 2012 Olympics and will be purpose built for the Star Carriers.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8969 times:

What will VS do with the whole of T3 ? Surely they don't need that many gates just for them...

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8952 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 12):
What will VS do with the whole of T3 ? Surely they don't need that many gates just for them...

T3 is not only for Virgin.
All oneworld carriers with the exception of BA will use T3 as it is closest to T5 and will make connections easier. T3 will have alot of work done to it, for example the current check-in area will be re-designed and VS' area will be designed by the designers of Hong Kong airport.


User currently offlineBritish767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 284 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8893 times:

This is awful! I work in Dixons Tax Free in Terminal 2, and if this goes ahead I'll be losing my job if I can't get a tranfer (let's just hope I can go to T5!). Admitedly, T2 is pants and is the quietest terminal in LHR, but still!

User currently offlineLondonlady71 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8893 times:

we were told months ago that T2 and queens will be coming down, we will relocate to T1 for a few years whilst that happens and then we will be in the new building!

It is all over the little mini magazine that you can pick up at the airport for the past 2 weeks or so, I thought everyone knew this is what was happening, wasnt it spoken about on here ages ago?

the big debate is all about who will or wont come with us as we ground handle for so many other airlines.....Jet will become part of star to come with us...apparently! I know some will debate that but it is what the london office seems to think will happen along with others!


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8836 times:

One idea BAA should consider is having a non aviation transport hub outside the airport. There is too much traffic trying to get into the airport itself via the tunnels.

There could be simple transit train or bus from the terminals to the external transport hub (around Hatton Cross maybe) where you can pick up your car from the car parks, catch a train, tube or a bus to your UK destination.

The BAA never project their plans far enough into the future and always end up not having enough space or inappropriate space.


User currently offlineLondonlady71 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8803 times:

Nooo not hatton cross! make it the other side where I dont have to drive to and park my car for work!!

good idea though monday mornings are a nightmare!


User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8617 times:

BAA to shut Heathrow's Terminal 2

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4849758.stm


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8324 times:

Taking the state of the facility into account, it will not shed any tears in my eyes to see that building being destructed.
There´s simply no real option to modernize the current building to today´s standards. Going for "Heathrow East" is a wise thing IMO.
-HT



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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2410 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8064 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 12):
What will VS do with the whole of T3 ? Surely they don't need that many gates just for them...

Well, if the Heathrow East is to be built, VS and Star Alliance will have the terminal to them selves.


User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8031 times:

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 10):
Basically it is part of the Heathrow Master Plan BAA unveiled in Nov'05.

That's way too many gates for two runways.

Also if they are going to pave over most of the central terminal area, why not demo it entirely and build a mirror image of T5?



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User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2410 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7965 times:

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 21):
Also if they are going to pave over most of the central terminal area, why not demo it entirely and build a mirror image of T5?

Well, they still need those hangars. T4 was built over old hanger property, and they lost quite alot out of that already.

Also, they do have plans to build a 3rd runway for short haul aircraft landings in the north part of the airport. However, nothing is finalized yet.


User currently offlineSapphireLHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7450 times:

After the new Terminal 3 car park is completed, in June this year, the old T3 car park is due to be demolished. This will enable the whole forecourt area to be enlarged and the T3 departures to be extended and modernised. The new bridge from T3 arrivals to the new car park is in the process of being ercted and is due for completion at the end of April. Heathrow still lives up to its position as being the "only building site with its own airport" !!!

User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2410 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7265 times:

Quoting SapphireLHR (Reply 23):
Heathrow still lives up to its position as being the "only building site with its own airport" !!!

I quite don't get that. Sorry. Do you mean a construction zone which is just an airport?


25 Post contains images Lightsaber : Obviously they just need to build the 3rd runway! Seriously, as LHR is such a nexus for the global airline industry, I'm very glad to see it expandin
26 Vincewy : OMG, that T5 looks like twice the size of any other terminals, how many gates will T5 have for A380? and yes, maybe they should leave some areas for h
27 Bmi332 : Won't that sound stupid, Terminal 1,Terminal 3,Terminal 4 & Terminal 5.
28 Post contains images GatwickA320 : Thought the whole point of building Terminal 5 was so Heathrow could have 5 terminals...... I guess we're back to square 1. Roll on Terminal 6 (and ma
29 Planesarecool : I almost hit the ceiling when i walk through the T2 check in. Not only is it claustrophobic, but it gets so stuffy in there at peak. I feel sorry for
30 SapphireLHR : As of yesterday, 27th March, two stands in Terminal 5 designed for the A380 's are opened and operational. These stands are numbered 544, 545 and are
31 Kiwiandrew : interesting considering that T5 is now going to be exclusively for BA who , so far , have shown little/no interest in the A380 .
32 Post contains images Arsenal@LHR : Buying the A380 is not a pre-requisite for moving into T5. Glad that T2 will be demolished, i share the sentiments of others here. It is an extremely
33 Post contains images Kiwiandrew : I realise that , but my point ( which I probably didn't make very well ) was to wonder who are these gates meant to be for if the only user of T5 see
34 Post contains images Arsenal@LHR : Then we can safely assume that BA might (emphasis on the "might") just order some A380's, much to the delight of some.
35 RichardPrice : Or that BA, while being the predominent user of T5, wont be the exclusive user of T5.
36 Kiwiandrew : my impression was that ,while originally BA were going to let QF use T5 as well , the decision has now been taken to make it exclusive to BA - I thin
37 FlyCaledonian : BAA state that once the shuffle round of airlines with the opening of T5 takes place the number of passengers using T2 will reduce from 9 million to 1
38 Kaitak744 : Yea, like stated earlier, QF will use some A380 gates at T5. Also, this terminal is built for the future. In this day and age, building a terminal wi
39 Ctbarnes : ...so do the nightmares. I always hated flying through T-2. It was IMHO always overcrowded and claustrophobic. I do hope BAA will see sense and have
40 Kiwiandrew : are you sure ? I thought I read recently that QF will be banished along with the other OW partners to T3 and that BA will have exclusive use of T5
41 BA : How will this affect Terminal 1 operations since Terminal 1 and 2 are pretty integrated together? Don't they share a common transit security area?
42 Kaitak744 : Well, from what I hear, QF is constantly being kicked around. One day, they are in T5, the other day, they are in T3. It would make sence for them to
43 SapphireLHR : This doesn't mean that the stands are only able to be used by the A380. As the A380 has the largest commercial wingspan and it is widely accepted not
44 FlyCaledonian : BA have stated that QF will definitely not be in T5 when it opens in 2008. QF, along with all the other OneWorld carriers, will operate from T3. BA w
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