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Qantas To Order 5 737-800s And 2 A320s?  
User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5563 times:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au.../0,5744,18623590%255E23349,00.html

According to the article, money is being raised to order five more 737-800s and two A320s (for Jetstar).

Four 737-400s are going to New Zealand to replace four 737-300s that are being converted to freighters. These four 733s will replace three 727 freighters.

I imagine the A320s are just for Jetstar expansion.

Lots of interesting moves there!


I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5369 times:

Does Qantas fly any A320s on it's own accord. Also I'm flying to NZ in September booked on Qantas but the leg from SYD - CHC is on Jetstar. Does anyone know if when I'm collecting my AAdvantage Miles, I'll get the points from the Jetstar flight???

Cheers
AA1818



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5329 times:
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Quoting AA1818 (Reply 1):
Does Qantas fly any A320s on it's own accord. Also I'm flying to NZ in September booked on Qantas but the leg from SYD - CHC is on Jetstar. Does anyone know if when I'm collecting my AAdvantage Miles, I'll get the points from the Jetstar flight???

- No, only JQ flies A320's, not QF.
- As far as I can see, only full-fare tickets on JQ are eligible for FF points / mileage accrual


Rgds

SA7700



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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5193 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5255 times:

I'm not sure if these are new orders or just financing for exisitng orders??

User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5075 times:

Quoting ANstar (Reply 3):
I'm not sure if these are new orders or just financing for exisitng orders??

They will be new orders. QF has no orders outstanding apart from 380s and 787s



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4952 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 1):
Does Qantas fly any A320s on it's own accord. Also I'm flying to NZ in September booked on Qantas but the leg from SYD - CHC is on Jetstar. Does anyone know if when I'm collecting my AAdvantage Miles, I'll get the points from the Jetstar flight???

Cheers
AA1818

QF also operates on this route so you may be able to change onto the QF operated flight



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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

This put the 737-838 fleet at 38 for Qantas. They have 33 in service now. Interesting to note that the majority of the delivery slots for the 738s were once held by American, who has defer 47 738s until 2010 at the earliest. QF certainly got its 738 fleet built in a hurry having gotten its first 738 in 2001, I believe. Regards.


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User currently offlineBrendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

Well, Qantas are extreamly happy with their 738s... Having traveled on 2 this month, I know that the flight attendants can get around the cabin easily on the short CityFlyer runs (MEL/SYD/BNE) and give everyone a decent meal, not to mention the inflight entertainment is much more improved - Good to see they're getting rid of the old 737s one and for all

What are they upto now? VH-VXA through to VH-VYK?



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4567 times:
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Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter):
Four 737-400s are going to New Zealand to replace four 737-300s

The first B734 enters service on WLG domestic and WLG trans-tasman in May

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 1):
Does Qantas fly any A320s on it's own accord

QFs LCC JQ only flys A320s on Australian domestic and trans-tasman, currently only to CHC

Quoting ANstar (Reply 3):
I'm not sure if these are new orders or just financing for exisitng orders??

All of the B738s that have been orderd previously have been delivered, so new orders


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):

They will be new orders. QF has no orders outstanding apart from 380s and 787s

hopefully they will add some 748's to the mix... pray 



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4466 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
hopefully they will add some 748's to the mix...

I would say, if QF do buy B748s instead of extra A380s then it will come around the time the B777/A340 order is announced


User currently onlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5319 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4420 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 10):
I would say, if QF do buy B748s instead of extra A380s then it will come around the time the B777/A340 order is announced

QF ordered 65 plus 50 787's, the only other order they might place is for the 772LR from what I have heard.

I do see it highly likely that QF will order 748's, being that they will have 474 seat A380's and a whole pile of 250 odd seat 787's, they will still have the 744ER's and a few of the newer 744's for probably another 13-18 years but they will need more aircraft in the 350-400 seat range than probably 9-10 remaining 744's 744ER's. Only other option is the 773ER.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4258 times:

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 6):
This put the 737-838 fleet at 38 for Qantas. They have 33 in service now. Interesting to note that the majority of the delivery slots for the 738s were once held by American, who has defer 47 738s until 2010 at the earliest. QF certainly got its 738 fleet built in a hurry having gotten its first 738 in 2001, I believe. Regards.

QF got very, very lucky!

American was hit hard by September 11, and wanted to defer their 737 order. Ansett collapsed on September 12, and Qantas suddenly had access to almost double market share and needed planes for it and fast.

As they are oneworld buddies, American agreed to give up the positions. As the aircraft were already some way down the production line, QF agreed to keep the AA configuration (as in layout, not colour schemes etc). From QF order to first delivery, the elapsed time was three months.

That has to be some kind of record  Smile



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offline747400F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4253 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter):
These four 733s will replace three 727 freighters.

727 Freighters in QF??? would that be the ones operated by Australian Air Express, like this one:
http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=76711


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4235 times:

Quoting 747400F (Reply 13):
727 Freighters in QF??? would that be the ones operated by Australian Air Express, like this one:

Yes. Australian Air Express is owned by QF, or part-owned, I forget which...



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offline747400F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4235 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 14):
Yes. Australian Air Express is owned by QF, or part-owned, I forget which...

Thanks! Any explanation as to why they are not marketed at Qantas Cargo?


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3929 times:

Quoting 747400F (Reply 15):
Thanks! Any explanation as to why they are not marketed at Qantas Cargo?

Qantas doesn't have any of its own brand cargo aircraft. I don't know why, perhaps it's a marketing reason.

They lease 747s from Atlas (I believe) to run cargo only flights out of the USA.

Australian Air Express was originally the domestic package / freight arm of Australian Airlines (formerly TAA), which was merged into QF to become Qantas domestic in the early 1990s. I guess as the brand was already established, it was kept.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offline747400F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3904 times:

Thanks for a good explanation

User currently offlineBrendan03 From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3904 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 16):
Australian Air Express was originally the domestic package / freight arm of Australian Airlines (formerly TAA), which was merged into QF to become Qantas domestic in the early 1990s. I guess as the brand was already established, it was kept.

I'm just trying to remember what the deal was... My mother used to work for that arm of Australia post before Qantas took it over (Then she was moved to Australia posts mail collection... Before that she used to be a courier for whatever it was called) - I can't for the life of me remember what it was called but Australian Air Express took them over... Express Courier? I think thats what it was called...



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week ago) and read 3443 times:
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Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 11):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 10):
I would say, if QF do buy B748s instead of extra A380s then it will come around the time the B777/A340 order is announced

QF ordered 65 plus 50 787's, the only other order they might place is for the 772LR from what I have heard.

I do see it highly likely that QF will order 748's, being that they will have 474 seat A380's and a whole pile of 250 odd seat 787's, they will still have the 744ER's and a few of the newer 744's for probably another 13-18 years but they will need more aircraft in the 350-400 seat range than probably 9-10 remaining 744's 744ER's.

QF did say that the B747 will still remain as the back bone of the QF fleet

Quoting 747400F (Reply 13):
Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter):
These four 733s will replace three 727 freighters.

727 Freighters in QF??? would that be the ones operated by Australian Air Express,

QF partly owns Australian Air Express. Australian Post owns the other half


User currently onlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5319 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 19):

QF did say that the B747 will still remain as the back bone of the QF fleet

I hope so! They have 35 active 747's now so they will take a fair while to replace them, obviously the 5 Active 743's will go first, probably replaced by some of the A380's currently on order from late 2008-2009ish. Then the 744's range in age from 2.5 to 16.5 so they will be replaced over a long period of time.


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