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United Express To Start MSY-STL Service  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5869 times:

New nonstop service eff. 5/3/06:

MSY-STL

UA8072 dp. 805a ar. 958a

STL-MSY

UA8070 dp. 1040a ar. 1230p

It seems that Trans States is seeing some success at MSY with their recently launched service to OKC and SAT. I can't say I saw service to STL coming. A pleasant surprise.

UA/UA Express will then offer 13 daily nonstops to LAX, SAT, OKC, DEN, ORD, STL, and IAD from New Orleans.

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User currently offlineStl1326 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5852 times:

Wow. That's all I can say. Basically they are competing against their self. They operate daily non-stop service between STL-MSY on AA Connection. We will see how long this will last, but always good to see additional flights.

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5852 times:

wow, I admit that this is even a bit of a surprise. I was suspecting that United Express, being flown by Trans States, would be coming up from San Antonio before New Orleans.

Even though it looks to be a quick turn, does anybody know if Trans States might be doing a crew change while it's on the ground, or anything of that nature?



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User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2078 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5818 times:

What the.......

Loads on STL-MSY pre-Katrina were always real good, enough to the point where I thought it would become 3x daily at some point in time. I guess this is the 3rd daily.


User currently offlineCaleeiii From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5760 times:

Pre-Katrina, Southwest operated SIX nonstops a day between MSY-BHM. Would be nice if UA would try maybe ONE rotation of this route a day. I know there must be at least one CRJ load out there today!

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4604 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5747 times:

Nothing but good feedback here in OKC about their new P2P services. Hopefully we'll continue to see this service grow throughout the South.

User currently offlineUAL#1fan From United States of America, joined May 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5732 times:

So is UA opening a string of focus cities across the South now? They just expanded United Express service from SAT, and they appear to be doing the same thing at MSY. Perhaps to draw some traffic away from CO at IAH, NW at MEM, and DL at ATL?


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

Good to see UA in expansion mode lately (ORD-BIL/,SAN/SEA-HNL,IAD-CVG/YHZ) hopefully UA will consider MSY-MCI with a Trans-States ERJ  Smile


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5700 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

Quoting UAL#1fan (Reply 6):
Perhaps to draw some traffic away from CO at IAH, NW at MEM, and DL at ATL?

It's a viable theory, however, CO and DL are pretty much entrenched in IAH and ATL, respectively. I think this either aimed at AA in STL (doubtful), WN in MSY (I smell another "shuttle' coming around, lol), or NW in MEM.



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User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5700 times:

Great news, did they annouce the aircraft or can we viable deduct that it will be a CRJ-300?


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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5700 times:

GoJets getting another flight.


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5690 times:

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 9):
Great news, did they annouce the aircraft or can we viable deduct that it will be a CRJ-300?

ERJ-145

Quoting UAL#1fan (Reply 6):
So is UA opening a string of focus cities across the South now? They just expanded United Express service from SAT, and they appear to be doing the same thing at MSY.

I doubt that they are going to build up MSY like they have built up SAT, but you never know. There is more than enough gate space for them here now on Concourse C, so from an operational standpoint it is possible anyway. I'll snoop around and see what I can come up with.


User currently offlineBNinMSY From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5675 times:

I wish UAExp would consider a nonstop SHV-MSY - would be far more beneficial to them than STL-MSY which they will only compete with AA on.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5662 times:

Quoting BNinMSY (Reply 12):
wish UAExp would consider a nonstop SHV-MSY - would be far more beneficial to them than STL-MSY which they will only compete with AA on.

Or MCI...or BHM...or IND...or RDU...I can think of several routes which seem to make more sense. I guess they see some potential for success though, so more power to them.

Also remember that AA is bringing back MD-80 service in the market as of 4/3.


User currently offlineHNL From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 344 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5642 times:

LOL - I mis-read the OP and thought it was MRY-STL. Now that would be strange.


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5700 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5642 times:

Anyone remember when National was one of the bigger players in MSY?


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5618 times:
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Quoting MD90fan (Reply 7):
Good to see UA in expansion mode lately



Quoting BNinMSY (Reply 12):
wish UAExp would consider a nonstop SHV-MSY



Quoting UAL#1fan (Reply 6):
So is UA opening a string of focus cities across the South now? They just expanded United Express service from SAT, and they appear to be doing the same thing at MSY.

The only thing UA has in relation to this is they have there named slapped on the side of Trans States planes, and when you book it it shows up as a UA coded flight. All these flights from SAT and MSY (excluding the actual UA hubs) are at-risk flights operated by TSA, and has nothing to do with UA planning. TSA is launching these routes by themselves, and not being payed by United to operate this, however UA is getting no revenue off the actual flights either, except when TSA pays them for gate usage/ground handling in some cities. These flights have nothing to do with UA, just the paint on the side of the plane. It's basically a whole seperate operation.


User currently offlineBNinMSY From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5618 times:

Well a MSY-SHV-ORD would provide good intra-state service (getting people off I-49) and then great opportunities for international connections for SHV boarding guests.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5609 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 16):
These flights have nothing to do with UA, just the paint on the side of the plane. It's basically a whole seperate operation.

Well, the flying public likely won't know that. These new flights will probably increase UA's brand recognition in these markets at the very least.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7645 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5588 times:

Thanks for clearing that up Iowaman.

I wouldn't read too much into this, it is also likely some sort of aircraft/crew positioning flight since Trans State is based in STL.


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5561 times:
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Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 18):
Well, the flying public likely won't know that. These new flights will probably increase UA's brand recognition in these markets at the very least.

I agree.

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 19):
it is also likely some sort of aircraft/crew positioning flight since Trans State is based in STL.

Might possibly, but again this city pair was launched by TSA, not UA so I would doubt it.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5493 times:

Quoting LambertMan (Reply 3):

Loads on STL-MSY pre-Katrina were always real good, enough to the point where I thought it would become 3x daily at some point in time. I guess this is the 3rd daily.

AA was 3 daily. One M80 and two ERJ.

Now it's one M80 and one ERJ on AA with one ERJ on UA.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 13):
Or MCI...or BHM...or IND...or RDU...I can think of several routes which seem to make more sense.

Indianapolis could use a nonstop to New Orleans again since Southwest seems to have abandoned the route...and they no longer serve Houston at the very least. United has the space there....

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 20):
Might possibly, but again this city pair was launched by TSA, not UA so I would doubt it.

Trans States is based in St. Louis and has a base there for their crews...whether flying United or American services.



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User currently offlineAir1727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5445 times:

Quoting BNinMSY (Reply 17):
All these flights from SAT and MSY (excluding the actual UA hubs) are at-risk flights operated by TSA, and has nothing to do with UA planning. TSA is launching these routes by themselves, and not being payed by United to operate this, however UA is getting no revenue off the actual flights either, except when TSA pays them for gate usage/ground handling in some cities. These flights have nothing to do with UA, just the paint on the side of the plane. It's basically a whole seperate operation.

Who told you that?


User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4570 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5445 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 21):
Indianapolis could use a nonstop to New Orleans again since Southwest seems to have abandoned the route

MSY is an FL destination right? Perhaps they pick it up some day.



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User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5363 times:

iowaman,
the new flts operated by tsa from sat and msy are a shared risk by-both-airlines(and it even includes shared costs for fuel). tsa has extra planes from the usair/air wisc deal and they gave all the other carriers a op to add planes...after no one took them up on the offer. ual and tsa came up with the shared risk flights idea. ual would never let a tsa plane in ual colors fly a route with out some type of revenue from that.



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25 Air1727 : Exactly. Trans States does not make it up as they go. You don't fly around with someone elses service mark without the holder getting a piece of the
26 USXguy : anyone ever bother to think this is an aircraft maintenance swap out? Its cheaper to run it as a scheduled flight and try to get some revenue on board
27 RoseFlyer : I have read that yes these are flights being started by Trans States and they are the ones assuming all the risk. This is the same thing that Skywest
28 N1120A : There is no such thing as a CRJ-300, and these are being operated by ERJ-145s MSY-STL was started in order to rotate the aircraft out of the system f
29 MalpensaSFO : TWA routed a STL-MEX flight via MSY in the late 1990's...
30 MSYtristar : Actually that flight was routed JFK-MSY-MEX....TW708 and 709...operated with M80's...lasted for about a year before the MEX segment was switched to S
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