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Why No Covered Aprons?  
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1752 times:
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The other day I was sitting on a 732 about to depart JNB for DUR and it was pouring with rain. I watched the rampers running around in their wetsuits and wondered: why no covered aprons? I'm not going to elaborate on the form it could take, but has anyone ever considered it in airport design?


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6763 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

Would the exhaust fumes from the engines be too much of a health hazard? I'm just guessing here..


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8553 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1737 times:
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you've never been to Tempelhof then ?


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1871 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1725 times:
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Gates 1,2,3 and some of gate 18 are partially covered at Terminal 3 in JFK. I thinks it's more on the lines of ramp agents have the least respected job in the industry.


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User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 2):
you've never been to Tempelhof then ?

I was going to say the same thing.... I believe Phoenix or Vegas considered such an option (Canopy) but because of frequent air pressure inversions on a regular basis it was deemed to be unhealthy.


User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Yeah...Tempelhof and the old Pan Am terminal at JFK....


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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1705 times:
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I didn't know about those two, good pics!


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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
why no covered aprons?

Berlin-Tempelhof Flughafen :


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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3899 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

I guess their argument against building it into modern airports is that jetways do the same job

... not that that helps the ground crew!


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
The other day I was sitting on a 732 about to depart JNB for DUR and it was pouring with rain. I watched the rampers running around in their wetsuits and wondered: why no covered aprons? I'm not going to elaborate on the form it could take, but has anyone ever considered it in airport design?

I think the basic reason is that there are too many variables involved as far as aircraft dimensions go. If an airport builds something, it's a fixed size, and while it might serve some aircraft today, it may not serve other larger aircraft should they someday decide to serve the airport. Bottom-line, such construction is too limiting. Better (and much cheaper) to let the rampers wear raingear on the the few occasions that it does indeed rain...


User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 9):
Better (and much cheaper) to let the rampers wear raingear on the the few occasions that it does indeed rain...

Alot of good it does. On days when I get up, look outside, and see rain or snow...I forego the shower before work. No point to it...just gonna get soaked later.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 10):
Alot of good it does. On days when I get up, look outside, and see rain or snow...I forego the shower before work. No point to it...just gonna get soaked later.

True, and I recall that from my past ramp days as well, but my comment was in the context of raingear versus the airport building some type of structure that may/may not meet future needs.

(Worst part was hot day after rain quit--instant sauna!)


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 10):
Alot of good it does. On days when I get up, look outside, and see rain or snow...I forego the shower before work. No point to it...just gonna get soaked later.

Point well taken GQfluffy. Of course, when the company you work for doesn't GIVE you raingear it makes it worse. I always liked snow better than rain anyway, at least on the ramp.



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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1555 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1434 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 10):
Alot of good it does. On days when I get up, look outside, and see rain or snow...I forego the shower before work. No point to it...just gonna get soaked later.

Here in Nashville it rains most during spring and summer... hot days, so you're just going to get wet from sweating fi you wear the raingear, or wet from the rain if you don't... Much easier to choose during the winter, because the raingear adds a layer of wind protection.

I had actually thought about this as an idea for an airport design, should I ever get to design one, and decided that it would be a hard sell because of how large it would have to be.



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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1363 times:
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And the roofing or canopy would likely disappear during the next hurricane or typhoon.

User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1315 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 11):
(Worst part was hot day after rain quit--instant sauna!)

Oh god, we won't even go there. Those are the days you just keep drinking water...even if you gotta pee every 10 minutes..because you'll get dehydrated quicker then...well...you get my drift.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 12):
I always liked snow better than rain anyway

Snow is easier to dress for, but with the de-ice equipment we ( GQ ) have in BIL, it makes ops a nightmare. Give me rain over snow any day...

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