OHLBU From Finland, joined Jan 2005, 226 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8750 times:
Finnair's first A340-300, ex-VS G-VFLY (cn 058) will make it's first revenue flight in AY-colours on 1st July from Helsinki to Shanghai as AY057. The airframe will be dedicated to the daily HEL-PVG rotation, leaving only two hours of ground-time at Finnair's Helsinki-base and a longer maintenance layover every second week, when it will be substituted by MD-11. Pre-delivery maintenance will be done by SR Technics in Ireland and only small cabin modifications will be done at this stage. So maybe we will see the first Finnair in-flight bar, premium eco cabin and economy PTVs?
The registrations for the A343-fleet have been published, starting with OH-LQA for G-VFLY and followed by QB/C/D for the new airframes delivered in 2007. Q is just about the only letter still available in Finnair's OH-L** range of regs.
Andaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 8582 times:
Quoting OHLBU (Reply 2): Maybe someday, after they can't find any new destinations from Asia cheeky . Finnair's long-haul is nothing special but their intra-European product is among the best there is nowdays.
I absolutely agree, so far AY's long haul product has not been more than ok (though they have done good business in Asia) but in Europe their are cool.
FFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8428 times:
If only tw0 hours of ground-time in HEL, how much in PVG? How delay-prone is PVG, if at all? It's been a while since I was in China, and at that time, there often could be "unexpected things" here and there. There might be a chance for a nice long effect resulting from a single delay, if they are really to use a single a/c for the route. And also those tiny engines have numerous tiny parts, which might have some tiny problems every now and then. Four of those there, I believe.
Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8464 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8282 times:
Quoting FFlyer (Reply 4): There might be a chance for a nice long effect resulting from a single delay, if they are really to use a single a/c for the route
Nationwide (CE) have a similar situation, they have one 767 that they use on the JNB-LGW run three times a week, so far it has worked out fine as far as I know. Careful planning and meticulous maintenance are the keys.
After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
LordHowe From Finland, joined Jan 2003, 728 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7134 times:
Quoting OHLBU (Thread starter): So maybe we will see the first Finnair in-flight bar, premium eco cabin and economy PTVs?
Are they going to have eco PTVs in the future in their 343s and 350s? That would be an improvement! I wonder if they will be satisfied with 2-4-2 configuration - they could of course try to cramp another seat there too as has been done in MD11s in the aft section.
PM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 7000 posts, RR: 63
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7068 times:
Quoting LordHowe (Reply 14): I wonder if they will be satisfied with 2-4-2 configuration - they could of course try to cramp another seat there too as has been done in MD11s in the aft section.
The MD-11 has always been 9-across. SR used to fly 2-4-3 and many other airlines did too. I'm not aware of any airlines that only had an 8-across arrangement while the only 9-across A330/A340s (that I'm aware of) are some charter A330s. The fuselage is significantly narrower than that of the MD-11. I've never flown AY but, as I understand it, they have a good long-haul product. I can't see them jeopardising that by squeezing in 9-across in Y. Anyway, do they need to? They currently get 296 CY seats into an MD-11. They must be able to get close to that in a two-class A343. In any case, might the A340s be used to open new Asian routes that may not need the capacity of an MD-11?
Killjoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6712 times:
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 20):
And trust me, having flown on an LTU MD-11 with 10-abreast seating, it's horrible.
Well it's not great, but I wouldn't say it's horrible. Finnair's mid-cabin is definitely nicer than the back, but it wouldn't prevent me from buying a ticket. Luckily 9 abreast on an A350 isn't very likely, so we shouldn't have to worry about strange seating differences in the future.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6548 times:
Quoting Killjoy (Reply 21): Well it's not great, but I wouldn't say it's horrible.
Maybe not at AY, but at LT, it was hell, since it was a 10 abreast seating in a single cattle class configuration. I don't remember the seat pitch, though I don't think it's that bad at AY, but at LT and their MD-11s, the legroom was already a bit too small for me, though I'm not that big (I do have somewhat longer legs).