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Big Announcement From SN Tommorow!  
User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1092 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13968 times:

Just speaking to a friend as SN..
she told me 1100 Reps and staff are being called to BRU for a big announcement tommorow ?
Any idea what this could be ?!

going low cost ? new routes ? new aircraft ?

Anything is appreciated !!

Joe

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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13883 times:

Quoting BHXDTW (Thread starter):
going low cost ? new routes ? new aircraft ?


With Virgin Express they already have a low cost arm. New routes wouldn't be that big news that they'd need to call all staf and new aircraft certainly are not on the horizon. If anything, my guess is that a new corporate identity will be revealed due to the fusion of VEX and SN.

Keep us up to date, if your friend has more details.  Wink



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24951 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13867 times:

Some SNBA news

BRS and NCL have had their frequency reduced to 2 x Daily.



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User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13867 times:

Tomorrow should see the new CEO's strategic plan revealed. It can contain anything from more/less routes to more/less aircraft and a decision on the future form of the group's two airlines.

I'm afraid we'll have to wait until March 30th to find out.



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User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1092 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13699 times:

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 3):
Tomorrow should see the new CEO's strategic plan revealed. It can contain anything from more/less routes to more/less aircraft and a decision on the future form of the group's two airlines.

I'm afraid we'll have to wait until March 30th to find out.

Wow... my friend also said that they were talking along the lines of an amalgamation of both airlines because of V.Express being combined with SN
Though no new US routes they are trying to push EBB as much as poss now they have competition from KL and BA...


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8586 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13699 times:
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Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
Some SNBA news

BRS and NCL have had their frequency reduced to 2 x Daily.




even worse they dropped GLA at the beginning of this month - now have to go way out of my way to Charleroi to get a flight to bloody PIK also miles out of the bloody way .... adds hours to the @#$@%# trip


anyway , back on topic ... my money is on it being a new identity for the combined SN/Virgin Express entity

[Edited 2006-03-29 14:49:58]


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User currently offlineBlueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4090 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13457 times:
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Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 5):
my money is on it being a new identity for the combined SN/Virgin Express entity

Apparently, it will be a single brand centered around two AOCs. Management isn't quite ready to deal with the labour issues that need dealing with if all aircraft operate under a single AOC, such as merging seniority lists, different pay scales at the two carriers, etc...

This being said, the two airlines are already pretty much merged behind the scenes. Several departments already overlap both carriers (accounting, HR, public relations, etc...) and while other departments are still duplicated, they have the same head, such as sales or route planning, or for that matter the CEO.



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8586 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13457 times:
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I work next door to the SN Brussels building in da Vincilaan - will keep an eye out for any workmen changing signage  Wink


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User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 13287 times:

Is it SNBA into Virgin...or Virgin into SBNA....


Great new name " Virgin Of Belguim"...a rare sight I believe... rotfl 

The news may also include Fleet Modernisation.

SBNA with its BAe's, RJ's and Airbus with Virgin's Boeing's, maybe they'll go for the A318/A319.


Whatever it is...GOODLUCK FOR THE FUTURE


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User currently offlineTrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 13039 times:

Re Brs flights they aren't going down to 2 a day, looking at the website they are reducing sunday flights to 1 daily and sat is going down to 0. The weekday flights remain the same.

User currently offlineTomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 12697 times:

Regarding BRS flights, SN uses to reduce their frequences during school holidays (2weeks in april, july/august,...). They usualy keep 10 freq/week or so.

As for tomorrow announcement, I mainly expect the rebranding to be revealed, as SN got at the time of TV take-over, 2 years to get rid of VirgEx's brand. It's time to bring to market the new brand !

Cheers,

Nicolas


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 12667 times:

I know someone who knows it already (I think), but I am too lazy to write him an eMail. Well, actually he could post it here since he is an A.net member, too.  Wink

Patrick


User currently offlineTomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 12524 times:

By the way, I was making a few searches for flights to Spain this summer with SN, and their booking tool doesn't show anymore code-share flights with IB on BRU-MAD. There are only a couple of daily flights proposed.

To the contrary BRU-BCN seems to stay like it used to be, 3 daily IB flights. Sounds strange...

I remember having read a couple of month ago that SN was about to start cooperation with Air Madrid (code share on south american flights,...). Any news on that front? Would this be linked to the end of IB c/s on BRU-MAD?

And to finish about SN news, I received an email from them a couple of weeks ago, announcing the full refurbishing of their A-330, to be completed in may. New seats in Bizz and so on. But appart from that email, I haven't seen much of a news about that. Has anybody more details on that subject?

Nicolas


User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2997 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 12491 times:

Quoting BBJII (Reply 8):
Great new name " Virgin Of Belguim"...a rare sight I believe...

Not Virgin on Bankruptcy Again...... ?  stirthepot 


 duck 



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3943 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 12469 times:

Quoting BBJII (Reply 8):
SBNA with its BAe's, RJ's and Airbus with Virgin's Boeing's, maybe they'll go for the A318/A319.

On here a while ago I read they were planning on doing the opposite...

... Getting rid of the A319s in favour of keeping the old Boeings! Weird!


User currently offlineNijltje From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 12424 times:

Would be fantastic drop the A319 and go 737 and then order the 787 to replace the A330 ..... however the A330 is doing a superb job for SN so.

Just told, it will be one brand name SNBA.

They are competitors on some routes for the moment so in the future sn will provide also low cost tickets (a certain amount of their seats). They will use the free planes to penetrate new routes.


User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 12038 times:

Swiss is buying the company..! Ahhhhhhh!!!!  faint 
Horrible Deja Vu!

Just kidding.

I'm sure they have great news, SN is a great company, they always get awesome reviews on airlinequality.com.


USADreamliner Big grin


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 9643 times:

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 16):
Swiss is buying the company..! Ahhhhhhh!!!!

Dude, this is not even funny!

Tony



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 9576 times:

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 4):
Though no new US routes they are trying to push EBB as much as poss now they have competition from KL and BA...

KL doesn't fly to EBB. Competition would be from BA, KQ and ET.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 9555 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 18):
Competition would be from BA, KQ and ET.

IIRC ET is to start services to BRU soon via CDG. Seeing how SN codeshares with just about anyone starting services to BRU, SN could end up codesharing with them aswell.



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 9448 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 19):
IIRC ET is to start services to BRU soon via CDG

Their previous ADD-CDG flight was via FRA. Does that mean they'll do non-stop ADD-CDG or is it the same ADD-FRA-CDG-BRU?


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 9091 times:

Tinkerbelle,

Here's what I found on the website of Brussels airport.

nvluchten van Brussel (BRU) naar ADDIS ABABA (ADD)
Vluchtnummer Dagen Vertr. Aank. Type Geldigheid
ET751 -2-4-6- 21:15 07:20 763 0506-2810

Lijnvluchten van ADDIS ABABA (ADD) naar Brussel (BRU)
Vluchtnummer Dagen Vertr. Aank. Type Geldigheid
ET750 1-3-5-- 23:20 07:55 763 0406-2710


Lijnvluchten van PARIJS CDG (CDG) naar Brussel (BRU)
Vluchtnummer Dagen Vertr. Aank. Type Geldigheid
ET750 -2-4-6- 07:00 07:55 763 0506-2810

Looks like all 3 weekly flights will be going trough CDG on the inbound and outbound flight. Flights will be operated by a 767-300 and have a ground time of 13H20 in BRU.



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User currently offlineDkny From Ethiopia, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 8658 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 20):
Their previous ADD-CDG flight was via FRA. Does that mean they'll do non-stop ADD-CDG or is it the same ADD-FRA-CDG-BRU?

Flights begin June 5. They will do ADD-CDG-BRU. And flights to and from CDG become nonestop.


User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 8131 times:

I think it could make sense to get rid of the 3 odd A319s if they're more expensive lease offsets any operational benefits over the older 737s. Since I hear here and there that some Avro's are just sitting doing nothing, it could be a good rationalization option to return the A319s, even if a 733 or 734 had to be added. One problem would be the lack of cockpit commonality with the A330s but if one or two units are to be added in the not too distant future, then the A319 pilots will have a job anyway. Sabena used to fly the 733 to BEY, CMN and TLV so it should work if TV's models have the same range spec.

In the future (apparently that is like 5 years from now at least) I'd like to see the longhaul fleet renewed. Surely the 787 with its wider than A330 section would be ideal for SN and their important cargo fold, they could even put a 9-abreast economy and a premium economy at 8-abreast in that thing.

It would be a very special heart warming sight to have a 737 wearing the S-tail again!

Let's wait for the news! Anybody knows the timing?



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User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 8011 times:

According to Luchtzak it seems the annoucement will be in private today to the management and unions; with the staff being informed at Kinepolis tomorrow.

One thing is for sure: there is finally some news from the front of SN Brussels Airlines and it would be high time for us to have some insider news!

Any contributions highly appreciated!



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25 Post contains images Gkirk : Being rebranded to SN BA Connect?
26 Lapper : Probably relaunching the company, doing away with the Virgin brand as their agreement to use the name has expired and to give the new airline another
27 BrightCedars : Hem, seeing how things are going in the country, I wouldn't bet on branding anything with the word Belgium in it. Best case: it would still mean the s
28 KLMcedric : Yes they do, since last year, 3Xweekly non-stop 763ER! I think they now went 4Xweekly, but I'm not sure!
29 MHG : If there´s a real "big" announcement i´d rather expect they will announce a substantial order on long-range a/c. And that´s most likely to be the A
30 Lapper : I wouldn't have thought they'd gather 1100 reps and staff in BRU to announce an aircraft order would they?
31 BrightCedars : Neither do I. I wouldn't expect an order from them in any case.
32 Vasu : What time is the annoucement?
33 NumberTwelve : It's thursday, 13:41 - seems as if this info is a "heared from a friend of a friend's father's son who read an internal message ..." story.
34 Manni : The announcement to the staff is on friday.
35 NumberTwelve : lol@Manni, this is why I love the "tomorrow's" and "today's" in the topics.
36 ANITIX87 : No news yet? (Trying to get this back up top of Civ-Av) I'm starting to think these claims were either misleading or the date was wrong... But I do lo
37 BlueFlyer : Neither, the official announcement hasn't been made yet.
38 PanAm747LHR : Has any announcement been made yet? Can any of you in Brussels tell us anything further? Nick
39 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Answer: Please be patient, more will be known within let's say 12 hours Regards Frederic
40 Post contains links BrusselsSouth : Hi, Summary of what I heard on a belgian radio this morning : - SNBA and Virgin express will eventually be merged, leaving one single brand. - The Vir
41 Nijltje : Virgin Express-SN Brussels merger Fri 31/03/04 - SN Brussels and Virgin Express are to merge into one new airline. The name of the new airline has not
42 Gkirk : Will the 737s be kept on?
43 BHXDTW : HI ALL.... Just a quick apologie to everyone !! I was at work when my SN rep came in to talk to me about a client and told me also about the annouceme
44 Lapper : [/Best Elvis Impression on] Thank you, thank you very much [/ Best Elvis impression off]
45 BHXDTW : Is a new name realistcally an option ? or is it just hoped they will ? Im thinking not... Only because if you think of the HUGE cost involved in chang
46 Post contains links BrightCedars : Leaks are starting to spread some info on Luchtzak, although none is confirmed as we don't know anything from the press conference nor have an officia
47 BHXDTW : guys.. Im eating my words.... SNBA ** IS ** dissapearing !! just heard the name is to change but no word to what yet ... Also business class to go too
48 Post contains links Kiwiandrew : http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pro...p?Feed=AP&Date=20060331&ID=5610610 "The existing brands Virgin Express and SN Brussels Airlines will disappear,
49 A330 : The name "Sabena" is since a couple of weeks owned by SN-Air Holding... The Second oldest airline in the world, AND my first employer as pilot will se
50 Kiwiandrew : please no ! Although I have only been in Belgium a year so never experienced the 'old' SN I have had many locals tell me the old joke about SABENA st
51 BHXDTW : My bets are on something like: 'BELGIAN' or back to the good ol 'SABENA'
52 ClassicLover : Well it would make sense really, since I had no idea when skimming the thread what SNBA was supposed to mean... and I think SN Brussels is a stupid n
53 Manni : Their A333 have 264 seats. How many seats would a A332 seat in a similar layout? Here's a piece of the press releases, the whole article can be found
54 BrightCedars : Damn, I thought this was worthy of a new thread as this one's title is misleading. We'll see what the admins think.
55 Post contains links Sabena332 : Please continue the discussion here: SN Brussels Airlines 31/03 Press Release Out! (by BrightCedars Mar 31 2006 in Civil Aviation) Patrick
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