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User currently offlineAa777dr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1081 times:

Hi everyone.

It just occured to me that I don't know what is the US's oldest airline (Delta?) and the world's oldest airline (JAL?).

If anyone has this info and would like to share it please reply to this post.

Thank you,
Alexander.

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User currently offlineTexairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

I believe the world's oldest is KLM, not sure about US, I think it used to be Pan Am.

User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1032 times:

KLM it is, check it out...
http://about.klm.com/CorporateInformation/History/default.asp
Boeing727


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1551 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1024 times:

The world's oldest is considered to be KLM, as it was started in 1919.

Pan Am was once the oldest continually-running American airline, started in 1927 (64 years total). It has now been surpassed by the likes of American (66 years) and United (69 years).


User currently offlineTupolev154B2 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1017 times:

May I please have information about the founding of Delta, Continental and Eastern? I know that NWA was founded in 1926 and at its founding carried mail between Minneapolis/St. Paul and Chicago. I believe that US Airways was founded shortly after WWII, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

P.S. sorry for being off-topic with this post.


User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6289 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1017 times:

I have heard that the oldest existing airline company is DDL - Det Danske Luftfartsselskab (Danish Airline Company). And it is slightly older than KLM.
DDL does, however, not operate airliners, and has not done so for more than fifty years. So it hardly counts.
They own a lot of airliners - or at least they have them registered on their name on the national register, but they are operated by SAS, which is owned by DDL plus DNL (Norway) and ABA (Sweden).
Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6579 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

Most of the arline websites have blurbs about the company's history. I know Delta was founded originally as a crop-dusting operation near Monroe, LA (think the Mississippi DELTA) back in the '20s or '30s. I'm told they always had their annual shareholders' meeting in Monroe up until 10 or 15 years ago. And I think that's part of why they still have large jet (737 or DC-9/MC-80) service to Monroe.

User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

Wasn't TWA founded in 1925? I believe it's either TWA or Western Airlines (which, at one time was part of TWA [Transcontinental & Western Air Express]). So, depending on which branch of the family tree you look at, it's probably one of those carriers.

And since Western is now part of Delta, do we consider Delta the oldest carrier?


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 999 times:

TWA is the oldest U.S. airline in existence. It predecessor was founded in 1925. TWA just celebrated its 75th birthday last month.


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 998 times:

LOT Polish Airlines is from 1929 so its 10 years younger then KLM

User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2696 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1002 times:


Here is the list of the fourth oldest airlines in the world.


KLM
Qantas
Avianca
Mexicana

What is the 5th oldest? Brathens?



User currently offlineTurboTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 989 times:

KLM was formed on October 7, 1919 with its first scheduled flight.
However, Chalk International Airlines has been operating small flying aircraft from Miami to the Bahamas since July of 1919. Check it out in the 1998 Guinness World Records Book!

TurboTristar


User currently offlineAa777dr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 972 times:

You can find information about Delta's history on their website.

http://www.delta-air.com/home/index.jsp


User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1447 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 964 times:

Chalk have a couple of service breaks leaving KLM a clear winner.

User currently offlineLax2000 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 960 times:

I also heard Western was the oldest US airline. So I guess that would make delta the oldest.

Western, The Ooooonly way to fly!


User currently offlineTom_szym From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 960 times:

Hello!

Although LOT Polish Airlines officially became the state airline in 1929, it took over 3 previously operated (and private) airlines: Aerolloyd (Polish subsidiary of a German airline), Aerolot and Aerotarg. The official date is, thus, 1929 but the beginning of the airline is the early 1920s.

These airlines trace their beginnings to 1919-1921, transporting a few passengers between Gdansk (Dantzing) and Warsaw and between Poznan (Posen) and Warsaw. LOT and Polish pilots even started the first mail transport in Europe between Austria and Cracow in 1919!

Thomas Szymanski


User currently offlineWoodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 957 times:

Delta dates from 1924, this according to their website. I also believe Varig dates from the late 19teens, early 20s. I seem to remember hearing or reading that they were S. America's oldest and maybe rank as one of the world's oldest.

User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 956 times:

The worlds oldest is KLM, since 1919. The US's oldest is Delta, since 192something.


-TWA902fly



life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
User currently offlineAl From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 941 times:

Not to mention the fact that Chalk's wasn't even an airline until the mid to late 1950's! Until then they were merely an Air Taxi service, with, as someone else pointed out, large breaks in scheduled services. KL and QF are without doubt #1 and #2 oldest scheduled airline operators flying. KLM for it's part does always acknowledge the technical issues involved with the Chalks debate by self proclaiming itself as oldest continually operated scheduled carrier still under it's own name.
Cheers.


User currently offlineBritAir777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 929 times:

The oldest us airline is United, it was origanally a part of boeing. I bought a book on boeing at barnes and noble a couple of weeks ago.

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