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Brand New Competitor For B748 & A380  
User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 19062 times:

Today, a brand new organisation announced with much gusto, and to the astonishment of the world, what it deems to be "a worthwhile contender in future success of mass air transport".

The prototype craft pictured below, utilizes the fundamental principles and benefits of traditional aircraft, airships and hovercroft, and is intended to operate with less than 2 metres ground clearance but at up to speeds to up to 500 kts.

Low Cost operators in Europe have given the development a cautious welcome, in order to fulfill long term strategies which they say "may indeed lead to affordable trans-atlantic crossings for the masses, should the demand be justified through currently ongoing research".




Source: wancare.com


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User currently offlineCruzinAltitude From United States of America, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18936 times:

Hey, we are still 2 days away from April Fools Day!!!!

User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18936 times:

Well, so much for the 20 minute turn...

Airwave  eyebrow 



When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18936 times:

Heard a thing about this or something similar to it on the BBC or PRI or something like that. They said it would be like a cruise liner for the sky. The person from the company that is building these things was hoping that these would allow people to travel from LA to NYC in a leisurely yet stylish manner with special ports of call across the country.


Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18827 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 3):
They said it would be like a cruise liner for the sky.

Well at least you won't have to worry about pirates.  Smile



ConcordeBoy is a twin supremacist!! He supports quadicide!!
User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18672 times:

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 4):

Well at least you won't have to worry about pirates. Smile

Clearly you've never heard of the mighty Don Karnage and his ruthless band of air pirates or their floating fortress, the Iron Vulture.  wink 

Airwave  eyebrow 



When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4807 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18586 times:

No. This is supposed to be the competitor to the nine-decker Airbus which came out about a month ago. That would be a heck of a contest! Dare to forecast how many posts?


"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Garfield
User currently offlinePeterinlisbon From Portugal, joined Jan 2006, 507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18555 times:

Actually I was reading about airships and in fact they use a lot less fuel than planes so they might be a good alternative, a sort of cross between a cruise ship and a plane. They are slower but you could have your own cabin, restaurants, etc. The view must be pretty amazing as well. The German airships used to fly non stop between Frankfurt and New York/Rio long before planes could do that. After the Hindenburg disaster they were all scrapped, but the technology was there long ago, in the 1940s. Now with helium rather than hydrogen they wouldn't be so dangerous. I think it's something that's been neglected and the world has been missing out on. Perhaps they would also be useful for cargo. Also, I've heard about ideas for military uses (shipping tanks, etc.). Also, they don't need airports as they can take off more or less vertically.

User currently offlineRJ777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1811 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18540 times:

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 4):
Well at least you won't have to worry about pirates.

You have GOT to be kidding me! Normally, I tend to be very accepting of new aircraft, but the age of the Zepplin died with the Hindenberg!


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18521 times:

Quoting Peterinlisbon (Reply 7):
Perhaps they would also be useful for cargo.

Shipping would be much less expensive and nearly as fast.


User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 18247 times:

Quoting RJ777 (Reply 8):
You have GOT to be kidding me! Normally, I tend to be very accepting of new aircraft, but the age of the Zepplin died with the Hindenberg!

Well, I suppose there would be a danger from SAM, with air ships being slow moving vehicles.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 9):

Shipping would be much less expensive and nearly as fast.

Well not after we run out of easily extractable helium, or better recycle He currently being used. Helium is not a renewable resource given that it escapes our atmosphere.



ConcordeBoy is a twin supremacist!! He supports quadicide!!
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 18197 times:

It says 500 knots. That's not very slow.


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 18166 times:

What's up with the jetways in that pic???

...And I hope you don't actually believe that's possible, but judging by some of the responses in this thread  footinmouth 


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 18033 times:

Quoting Airwave (Reply 5):
Clearly you've never heard of the mighty Don Karnage and his ruthless band of air pirates or their floating fortress, the Iron Vulture.

I was thinking the same thing right before I read your reply!



Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 17934 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 13):
Quoting Airwave (Reply 5):
Clearly you've never heard of the mighty Don Karnage and his ruthless band of air pirates or their floating fortress, the Iron Vulture.

I was thinking the same thing right before I read your reply!

Lol, well then, this is just for you! Enjoy! Big grin





Airwave  eyebrow 



When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 17842 times:

I heard they an evac test on that Bertha jet in 70 seconds. They beat the whalejet.

User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 17783 times:

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 10):
Well not after we run out of easily extractable helium

I think I would be having far too much fun sucking it up to do Chipmunk imitations.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 17762 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 16):
I think I would be having far too much fun sucking it up to do Chipmunk imitations.

Or Munchkins..."Weee represent, the Lollipop Kiiids, the Lollipop Kiids, the Lollipop Kiids..."

Yeah, I really gotta rein it in...  Yeah sure

Airwave  eyebrow 



When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
User currently offlineTraveler_7 From Estonia, joined May 2000, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 17465 times:

Actually this new competitor also have to compete with this

http://www.aerosml.com/Aeroscraft%20Info.asp


User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10008 posts, RR: 96
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 17428 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 11):
It says 500 knots. That's not very slow.

Especially only 2m off the ground !!!!!!!!

It'll never catch on though. Point-to-Point is the future, don't you know.......


User currently offlineLeothedog From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 16860 times:

*Standing in line to buy a ticket*


I've got things to see and people to do.
User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6888 posts, RR: 63
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 16770 times:

Have GE got exclusivity yet...?  Sad

User currently offlineMalb777 From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 15951 times:

looks like airbus have finally realised that the A380 is going to be a white elephant , so they have introduced a nice grey one aswell


thank god i was not born a bird. this type of flying is much better
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 15890 times:

Quoting Airwave (Reply 17):
Airwave   

It's the lollipop guild, my friend. don't make be sick my union thugs on you. they'll bite your kneecaps off.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 15702 times:

yeah, 2m off the ground, great, so it's only useful for over water. You can't really call that flying, more or less just a fast boat.


Homer: Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen.
25 Malb777 : looks like airbus have finally realised that the A380 is going to be a white elephant , so they have introduced a nice grey one aswell
26 Post contains images FlyinTLow : Let's do some basic aerodynamics here: 2m off the ground --> ISA Temp. is 15� C 15� C --> speed of sound: ~620 kts MN = 500/620 = ~ .81 Mac
27 Dc10heaven : I can just imagine in the year 2099, the future generation A.netters constantly starting new threads about NW retiring their fleet of airships.
28 Post contains links and images SpeckSpot : Folks, take a look at this page. It must be referring to the same new idea since the picture is the same . It flies at 8000 feet (see inside the text
29 JAL : That thing whatever that is looks ridiculous!
30 SpeckSpot : The 2m is probably supposed to be 2km; certainly 8000ft = 2.438km is closer to 2km than to 3km or to 1km.[Edited 2006-03-30 16:33:23]
31 Post contains links Rampkontroler : Interesting that this comes out right after Dynalifter of Ohio initiated taxi tests on their 1/10th scale prototype of their heavy-lift airship. I don
32 787engineer : I think airships have a lot of potential. They use significantly less fuel, and can carry many more passengers, albeit a little slower. I think most p
33 SWALoveField : It is no secret I love WN, but PLEASE tell me they won't have "open" seating on this thing. I don't want to stand in the "S" line. Robb Dallas, TX
34 Gearup : Well, this thread seems to have attracted all the naysayers and wags from miles around! This is a fantastic idea and I hope it takes off (no pun inten
35 KJFK31L : I think Jimmy Page and Robert Plant would be happy to see that some listened to them! In all seriousness, I have always liked airships but nevertheles
36 Hemispheres : No, they will still be talking about thier DC-9's.
37 Post contains images Airwave : Lol, alright, alright...so I haven't seen the movie in ages... Airwave
38 Leothedog : Laughed Out Loud at that one.
39 Oroka : They had a short thing about this on the Discovery Channel last week. They said they plan on having a scaled down version build by the end of next yea
40 Post contains images Steeler83 : I thought it was the "Lollipop Guild..." oh well... It would really be funny if this becomes the official means of travel for Led Zepplin!!! A whole
41 C172heavy : Brings to mind an article I read about 15 years ago about the WIG (wing in ground effect) concept the Russians were looking at. The aircraft resembled
42 Phollingsworth : A common misconception, hydrogen had little to nothing to do with the Hindenburg disaster. It would have happened even if the US had given Germany th
43 QFA380 : Where exactly is the pilot going to go? In those pics posted I did not see any little bit in the bottom for them. Or would this not need pilots? This
44 Post contains images AirA380 : In theory it may be possible but in practice it won't possible to go at the speed of 500Kts as earth is not perfectly flat as they once thought!!..it
45 Post contains images Piercey : ROTFLMAO at those comments Either way, I read the same pop sci article and it looks pretty interesting. I'd fly it, better then this trans-continenta
46 Post contains links and images Zeke : Not to be outdone by todays developments Boeings Randy has released the first picture of their 797. Being enthusiastic about his new aircraft he said
47 Post contains links GBan : They are flying again: http://www.zeppelin-nt.com/pages/E/luftsch_u_zepp.htm
48 Jafa39 : You should always worry about Pirates...I've seen that movie with Johnny Depp...they can't be trusted!!!
49 Pilotman52 : Are those two Sears towers in the background? Pilotman52
50 Post contains images Steeler83 : And soon, it will own a monopoly of the aircraft manufacturing industry!
51 Post contains images Lehpron : We 'discussed' this about a few weeks ago with barely a dozen replies, why the sudden interest (or lack of)? There are too many gross assumptions made
52 Adam1115 : What about a giant passenger submarine?
53 Post contains links and images BuyantUkhaa : Hangar:
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