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User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 676 posts, RR: 1
Posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

As I have mentioned before, I had a free ticket for an Air France Concorde flight from JFK to CDG. As I will be studying in London this coming year, I planned on using that flight as my way to get over there and buying a ticket for the CDG-LHR leg. I was all authorized and booked.

Then came the Concorde crash.

My mother wanted me to cancel the flight and, to avoid constant nagging and comments as to how worried she would be, I decided to see if Air France would change the flight to First Class on a subsonic flight (called L'Espace 180). Of course, as it turns out, it is unlikely the Concorde will be flying by mid-September. After a few weeks of working with Air France's Chicago ticket office, the authorization just cam through and I am booked on Air France flight 007 from JFK to CDG and then flight 1370 from CDG to LHR.

My question might best be answered by AF Cabin Crew, but has anyone had experience in L'Espace 180. I know the seats recline to 180 degrees. Do they do a full meal service on AF 007 or is it an abreviated service like AF 009, which leaves a 11:50?


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User currently offlineStarship From South Africa, joined Nov 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

I was on ICQ with AF Cabin Crew earlier this evening and he mentioned this post to me. As much as he would like to respond, he unfortunately does not have the time tonight, as he is leaving early tomorrow morning on a CDG - BKO (Bamako Senou - Mali) - CKY (Conakry - Guinea) flight and is returning via NKC (Nouakchott - Mauritania) early next week. He said that he would not be able to respond before next Tuesday and even that is doubtful because he is then doing CDG - LHR - CPT (Cape Town) flight the same day/night.

So let me advise on L'Espace 180.

The first genuine airborne bed

Arrive refreshed and raring to go!

Air France offers business travelers a genuine flying bed in the l'Espace 180 cabin. Available on long-haul flights to Asia, the Pacific, Southern Africa and North and South America, l'Espace 180 offers unrivaled travel comfort and triples your Fréquence Plus Miles.

Airport Services:
Choose your seat when reserving.
Dedicated l'Espace check-in desks.
Priority check-in for passengers with hand baggage only.
Board at your own convenience.
Access to Air France lounges.
Your baggage travels wrapped in plastic film between Paris and New York.
Priority delivery to baggage claim.

In-flight Services :
Travel in a separate cabin at the front of the aircraft.
Your seat reclines 180° to form a genuine bed.
Mobile screens protect your privacy when sleeping.
State-of-the-art amenities: telephone, in-seat video, noise reducing headset, silent, electronic seat controls, swivel tray.
A duvet and pillow, sleep-suit and slippers are provided free of charge, together with wake-up and amenity kits.
"A la carte"* meals include hors d'oeuvres, appetizers, a choice of four hot dishes, cheeses and dessert cart.
Enjoy French regional dishes on flights from Paris.
The exclusive l'Espace 180 wine list changes every three months. Two bars are open throughout the flight, one a smoker's bar on Clean Air Cabin flights.
Exclusive list of mineral waters and teas.
Breakfast provided when you wake up.
Two bars are open throughout the flight, one a smoker's bar on Clean Air Cabin flights.

* Exception: on certain evening flights, a special meal service is offered in order to provide you with more time for rest and relaxation.

Behind every "no" is a "yes"
User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2306 times:

Hey Starship i also chatted to him but two me said on the 15 he might be able tom answer it.


User currently offlineTailscraper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2305 times:

Me, well I've done 127 on the EZE-SCL leg. Not bad, in fact, very good. I loved the amenity bag, by Guy Laroche. Very classy.  (A 744 Combi BTW).

User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2301 times:

Starship, thank you very much for your information. From what you posted, it sounds very nice and I am very much looking forward to it. Of course, there will be a full and detailed trip report posted here soon after.

I can appreciate that the demands on an international flight attendent are great, and would appreciate a response from AF Cabin Crew whenever he has the opportunity. Based soley on my contect with the Air France sales office in Chicago, I am very impressed with the caliber of service proved by this airline.

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4534 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

Jeez, L'Espace 180 sounds great. How did you manage to get a free Concorde ticket?

User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

I actually got the ticket from my Dad, who had to fly the Concorde last year in the final hours of closing a business deal as his company's french subsidiary was causing problems and threatening to break the deal. The flight was delayed for 5 hours due to a mechanical problem. Because the reason his company paid the $10,000 fare was so he could get their qucikly, lay down the law in Paris and return, it was a waste of money. So, Air France gave everyone on the flight (including, he said, Henry Kissinger), a complimentary Concorde ticket. Knowing my interest in airliners, he was nice enough to work through the Air France bueracracy to get it transferred to my name.

All I have had to pay for on this flight was the $240 fare from CDG to LHR. Not bad.

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