Bohlman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4079 times:
Quote: Russian airline Aeroflot plans to buy 30 to 35 Airbus A-320s between 2008 and 2015
That's like saying "Aeroflot plans to buy aircraft in the next 9 years. Maybe it's worded wrong, but regardless, more good news for the A320, if it materializes. Forgive me if I'm skeptical of any announcement of any plans from Aeroflot, considering it has been reported multiple times that the 787/350 order has already gone to Boeing, then already gone to Airbus, then definitely firm for Boeing, then definitely firm for Airbus... the cycle goes on. I, along with most people, will believe it when I see it. Interesting note that at the end of the article, there's claims of the result coming out at the end of the month. This has, of course, been reported before (that the result is "imminent"), so, as I said, I'll believe it when I see it. In fairness, the "imminence" has seemed to reach much more of a fevered pitch in the last couple weeks, so maybe we might see something soon.
This is very good news for SU as it affirms their commitment to further Airbus narrowbodies. I agree, it is a shame about the TU-154 though.
Quoting Bohlman (Reply 1): Quote:
Russian airline Aeroflot plans to buy 30 to 35 Airbus A-320s between 2008 and 2015
That's like saying "Aeroflot plans to buy aircraft in the next 9 years. Maybe it's worded wrong, but regardless, more good news for the A320, if it materializes. Forgive me if I'm skeptical of any announcement of any plans from Aeroflot,
Yes, but only last year they commited to firm Order and Leasing contracts for 14 NB Airbus frames IIRC. If they feel they need to replace the TU-154 and Airbus is their chosen supplier I feel they are talking about the retirement and replacement delivery schedule, which may not yet be finalised, before making an announcement. In my opinion the report appears to be credible.
Quoting Tigerotor77W (Reply 4): Is this an order that's going to materialize, or are we going to have to wait for the official "It's been ordered" announcement
To be fair, at this point in time, it's a report about their intention to buy up to a certain amount of frames over a certain time period. No order or even LoI has reportedly been placed. So I'd err on the side of caution and say that we may have to wait sometime before an actual LoI or Order is placed.
What I find most interesting though is the following;
The A-320s will replace Tupolev Tu-154Ms. It was not clear whether they would be new or second-hand.
That they are considering buying used frames, to me, indicates that a public announcement as to the actual breakdown of the order between new build and any used frames may mean we have to wait sometime for further details.
With this in the works for Airbus and Boeing's recent sale of 6 MD-11Fs, one thing is for sure, the A350 / B787 decision will be most interesting. Assuming it isn't delayed again
Hjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 873 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3270 times:
I think that this is imminent, because for 1 it solves a political issue, which is really what hinders aeroflot more than anything else. If aeroflot orders more narrowbody planes from Airbus, and annouces the order at the same time as it announces a long-haul order from Boeing, (considering Boeing found MD-11 freighters for SU) then, no aircraft manufacturer can complain, and the EU nor the US can put sanctions against russia. Russia is also trying to get into the WTO, and the US is making it hard for them, even giving favor for Ukraine's entry. To get in sooner, a Boeing order from Aeroflot might push over the balance, and give favor for Russia's entry into the WTO. Futhermore, Aeroflot (as an airline) seems to favor the boeing product, and therefore probably wants to order the 787. In all, with their entrance in Skyteam (rumored for April 14th, though I doubt so) and their new order for medium and long haul aircraft, and their recent order for 30 RRJ, I think aeroflot will be making a lot of news. Additionally, Sheremetyevo 3 will be opening in 2008, and this will be their new hub.