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User currently offlineXen From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 24 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

I note that 4 of BA's short haul 767 fleet have been given the club world flat bed seats and upgraded to fly long haul. What is the future for the remaining short hauls ?

There must be a limited short haul market for them albeit they're useful on the longest European flights (the double daily to Moscow, two of the flights to Athens, a daily service to Larnaca) where the real difference in space in Club Europe makes the journey noticeably more comfortable (particularly if you're booked in economy and Club's not busy). Frankfurt, with its business market, gets two 767 services a day, not sure where else gets them but given that remaining European routes have high frequency would the 767s be more profitable on lower density India, Middle East, Africa and East Coast USA routes ?

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User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

All i know is that in BAs future long-haul replacement plan, they may be replaced by the 787...


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User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Yah, I was wondering why BA have started using their 763's for the YYZ-LHR route during the summer. Perhaps it's because of the huge cost of ramp fees at YYZ, but I'm not really sure.

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User currently offlineLouA340 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

How long does BA plan to keep their 767's? I presume that since they have upgraded the interior of the aircrafts that they will be around for quite a while.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1843 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2776 times:
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I remeber when I used to do BA 1503 that seemed like it had to be the oldest 767 ever. It was the same plane every day too. G-BNWH


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User currently offlineMutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

short term capacity increases in long haul are being acheived through switching 70% of the 767 fleet to long haul with NCW flat beds and WTP. Dusking is ongoing. This fleet will then be utilised on light days on certain east coast routes (as the third YYZ on certain days) although it appears EWR is switching one frequency to a 767 to release a T7 for India/China. THis is all about profit maximisation in the absence of new aircraft deliveries and has been discussed

User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3977 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

At ARN we get a daily B767, it is on the route for the freight. Carries 10-12tons each way. The B767 is the only pallet freighter on BA European routes.
(BA 767 have the optional front large cargo door).
The B767 are to remain in service for about 5 years. There is no plan to convert any more to longhaul after NWC and NWD are coverted in May/June.


User currently offlineMonkeyboi From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

The 767 also does a daily FCO rotation as well.

Also IST daily.

The 767 isn't fixed on any particular short haul route though.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7384 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

Remember that BA have several 763s on lease to QF. When they are returned they could be added to the BA short haul and / or long haul fleets.

User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 4):
I remeber when I used to do BA 1503 that seemed like it had to be the oldest 767 ever. It was the same plane every day too. G-BNWH

She is being dusked at the moment in LGW so should be up to spec soon. At the moment BA1503 is operated by G-BNWR previously BNWD and BNWO. BNWH should be back soon though with Club World, World Traveller + and World Traveller with PTV's of course.



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User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

I thought NWH was done in Jan?

User currently offlineEurofleetLHR From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

As all the longhaul 767's now all have the same configurations, it is no longer necessary to have 'NWH based at MAN (she was fitted in a unique configuartion until the end of 2005),There are no plans to have a dedicated 767 for the MAN-JFK route,and as all 767s (including 'NWH) are now Heathrow based, they will be rotated around the fleet. Though I somehow suspect some will operate the route more than others, and 'NWH may appear on the route again !!!!

User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

Quoting EurofleetLHR (Reply 11):
There are no plans to have a dedicated 767 for the MAN-JFK route

You know that's exactly was I was originally told but the day WH went down to LGW I got talking to her dispatcher for the flight and he assured me it was coming back? I'll trust you on the matter though considering the fact I just looked up that she operated BA0078 ACC-LHR on the 30th March. Oh well, we've lost a legend.  Wink



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