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Swissair MD11 Blows Tire In Johannesburg(Concorde)  
User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 6
Posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3050 times:

A Swissair M11 today had to make an emergency landing in Johannesburg, South Africa. During take off a tire burst and some debris from it was sucked into the engine. Some flames were seen coming out but an hour later the aircraft landed without incident. Swissair says that the are no similarities between the concorde crash and this "minor incident".

Meanwhile a South African Airways had to make an unscheduled landing in Zurich after two engines failed. The aircraft was supposed to fly to Paris.


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 13264 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

On the subject of emergencies, a Ryanair 737-200 had to abort its takeoff today "after a warning light came on" (great grasp of detail, these ITN people). I'll report further when I find out more. Anyway, all 127 got out safely and there was no major damage to the aircraft. It appears the brakes locked as the aircraft was braking.

User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

I got something wrong. Its was not Swissairs tire that burst but one of a South African 737 that took of right before Swissair. Swissair then took off and some debris got sucked into the engine. This resulted in a power loss and they had to turn back.


User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2926 times:

Sound like stupid people are not thinking safety thing! They should closed runway after the plane failure engine or blew out tire. They MUST sweep checking the whole runway before re-open the runway! What the earth people are doing out there? For Christ's sake!

User currently offlineGreeneyes53787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 844 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

I am glad you modified the story from your first one. It'd be difficult to have a piece of gear or tire be sucked into most conventional turbine powered planes, especially with wing mounted engines. The wheels are behind the intakes. Even with the Concorde this is true, although the margin of safety might by smaller.

It is my opinion that whatever caused both the condition you mentioned and the recent Concorde crash must have been on the runway prior to the takeoff.

Lexington KY

User currently offline747sp_rulez From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2823 times:

Avion, I think you were right in the first post. This is from a major Sunday newspaper here in Joey's - The Sunday Times stated....

A Swissair jet flying from Johannesburg to Zurich turned back after fragments from a tyre damaged one of it's engines, the airline said yesterday.
The three-engined MD-11 aircraft carrying 229 passengers, landed without incident back in Johannesburg an hour after take-off.
Fragments from a tyre damaged during take-off had entered the left engine, causing a loss of power.
It was unclear where the tyre was defective or had been damaged on the runway, spokesman Jean-Claude Donzel said.

Don't know nuttin' about the 737. If there was a 737 incident, I sure as hell hope it wasn't one of our new 737-800's!!!!!!!


User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2819 times:

If you look at pictures of the MD11 you'll see that the engine is actually forward of the main gear. Is very unlikely that something gets sucked forword with the exhaust coming out.

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Its clearly visible here.

And that flight that took of before Swissair was actually a 747-200 on its way to Paris via Zurich. When they arrived in Zurich they called all the emergency vehicled because two engines were out and they burst a tire in Johannesburg.


User currently offlineTailscraper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2812 times:

What about nose gear though? Fragments from these tyres could easily damage the 1&3 engines.

User currently offlineDUB From Ireland, joined May 2000, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (15 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

yes there was an incident at shannon airport on sat when a Ryanair 737-200 aborted its takeoff at 3.00pm and two tyres blew.The Airport was closed for 3hours because they where trying to get the aircraft of the runway it could'nt taxi itself as the tyres were blowen.


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