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Air NZ To Fly Direct NSN-HLZ/Palmerston North  
User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1675 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5638 times:
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Air New Zealand will introduce services on two new routes linking Nelson directly with Hamilton and Palmerston North on weekdays and Sundays, effective 26 April.

The non-stop services will be operated by Air New Zealand Link airline, Eagle Air using a 19 seat Beech1900 aircraft.


http://www.airnz.co.nz/aboutus/media...w_service_links_nelson_24mar06.htm

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User currently offlineDJ738 From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 410 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5630 times:

I really wouldn't have imagined there'd be THAT much demand for daily services between such small ports.. obviously I'm wrong, or time will tell.

Bare in mind OriginPacific also operate these two routes.


User currently offlineFlyjetstar From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5628 times:

Are there any towns in New Zealand gunning for an NZ service but yet to get one? Oamaru springs to mind. I remember Wanaka got one a couple of years back but what about some where else. There can't be too many, if any places left NZ could start a service to.

The Chatham Islands could do with one. I was amazed when I found out how much it costs to fly there, cheapest being $600 approx.


User currently offlinePulkovokiwi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5619 times:

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):

What a crazy comment!!! Why would NZ want to service the Chatman Islands? Its hardly Club Med territory. ROTFPMSL.


User currently offlineDJ738 From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 410 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5611 times:

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):
Are there any towns in New Zealand gunning for an NZ service but yet to get one? Oamaru springs to mind

How small is Oamaru? Couldn't you fly the whole population out in just a couple of Q300s?

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):
The Chatham Islands could do with one

The majority of Chatham Island demand is freight-related, hence NZ really isn't geared up to deal with this or offer such a service.

There is very little tourist demand for travel to / from the Chathams, hence what Air Chathams offer with their Convairs works perfectly - a link for the few islanders each week that want to get to / from the mainland, as well as supplies / freight.

NZ really don't need to get involved here as I don't see any money to be made for them from it.


User currently offlineFlyjetstar From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 5600 times:

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 4):
How small is Oamaru? Couldn't you fly the whole population out in just a couple of Q300s?

Not quite but I mentioned it as they had a service back in the day. I think it was direct from Wellington, maybe an F27 and then something after that.

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 4):

NZ really don't need to get involved here as I don't see any money to be made for them from it.

I was just commenting on how much it costs. My thought was that NZ with their experience might make a passenger service more affordable.

I'd better be careful with my random thoughts as people might think I'm connected to this guy:

Quoting Pulkovokiwi (Reply 3):


User currently offlineBroocy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 5567 times:

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):
The Chatham Islands could do with one. I was amazed when I found out how much it costs to fly there, cheapest being $600 approx.

Most of the demand is from the Chathams. However NZ used to operate there in competition with Air Chathams, but the support for the local carrier by the locals was so strong that NZ had to pull off the route.

Still, for those out there who want to fly on a Convair, you still can here in New Zealand.


User currently offlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 851 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 5559 times:

Oamaru is certainly a centre that has been/is being looked at along with a number of other domestic routes which may be introduced. Watch this space.

The HLZ/PMR to NSN routes will actually be operated by Vincent Aviation using their B1900D or B1900C (on behalf of Eagle). Origin have put in the grunt work and proved their is a market for direct services, now NZ just offers better options for travellers.


User currently offlineBroocy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 5546 times:

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 7):
Oamaru is certainly a centre that has been/is being looked at along with a number of other domestic routes which may be introduced. Watch this space.

Is Masterton being looked at in anyay, or can't you say?

While it is close to WLG and PMR, the mountain range in-between means that it takes the better part of 4-5 hours simply to travel one-way to AKL. There are plenty of high status baggage tags on the lap-top carrier bags used by the commuter set on the train too. Might be a fast link for the jet-set going to Peter Jackson's place too.

Sigh, I can but dream!


User currently offlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 851 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 5538 times:

Can't say too much but I have heard of Masterton being studied (very different and still a long way off from a route being confirmed, if ever.)

User currently offlineFlyjetstar From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 5526 times:

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 7):
Oamaru is certainly a centre that has been/is being looked at along with a number of other domestic routes which may be introduced. Watch this space.

I am curious to know what other towns there might be. I'm hard pressed to think of anymore that don't have a NZ service but might get one. Mt Cook? Masterton was an interesting suggestion. Service being moved from HKK to Greymouth?

I'm sure there are a few more route options under consideration. That's easy as every conceivable route isn't currently in service.


User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 5516 times:

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 11):
I am curious to know what other towns there might be. I'm hard pressed to think of anymore that don't have a NZ service but might get one. Mt Cook? Masterton was an interesting suggestion. Service being moved from HKK to Greymouth?

I'm sure there are a few more route options under consideration. That's easy as every conceivable route isn't currently in service.

Well we used to fly to MT Cook ..

If i remember correctly did oamaru on the F27 used to go to chc via timaru? It was part of the route that did lots of hops down the side of the south island..



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User currently offlineJetset25j From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 20 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

I thought I remember from around 98 or maybe earllier, Motueka being on Air NZ's route map with a service to WLG?  Confused ..odd as its only an hour from NSN..but it could make sense in the summer months as a closer gateway to the Abel Tasman and Golden Bay areas..

Also, does NZ still service Te Anau? (I remember not that long ago them using ATR's on that route to CHC)

Any how, NSN go's off traffic wise for a small airport, and a B1900 would do well on that route.



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User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 5466 times:

Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 13):
Also, does NZ still service Te Anau?

No.

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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 5456 times:
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And this extra flight

Air New Zealand Link airline Eagle Air is to operate an additional return trip Wellington - Whangarei - Wellington on weekdays effective 26 April.

General Manager Eagle Air, Doug Roberts said that this would be introduced for four months May - August due to some schedule changes and aircraft availability for that period.

Timings of the new service are as follows:

Monday - Friday

Depart Wellington 10.35 am / Arrive Whangarei 12.05 pm
Depart Whangarei 12.30 pm / Arrive Wellington 2.05 pm


User currently offlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 851 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 5454 times:

Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 13):
I thought I remember from around 98 or maybe earllier, Motueka being on Air NZ's route map with a service to WLG?

Air Nelson used to have a base in Motueka in the 80's prior to the complete buyout by Air New Zealand. Only a strip of around 700m there (remember Air Nelson used to operate Aztec's, C-172's etc. prior to the Metro's and Saab's).


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5441 times:
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Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 16):
(remember Air Nelson used to operate Aztec's, C-172's etc. prior to the Metro's and Saab's).

What on earth is the Aztec?


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6407 posts, RR: 38
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5441 times:

Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 13):
Also, does NZ still service Te Anau?

It's already answered but DOC have put a restriction on flights to the airport which is quite ridiculous after hearing their reasons of "vibrations from departing aircraft may trigger landslips in the fjords". Sounds like total crap to me.

Talking about small towns, how about more links to the Central Otago/Southland area? It seems to me that there should be more services between these southern cities such as DUD, ZQN, IVC and WKA.



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User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5438 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 18):
DOC have put a restriction on flights to the airport which is quite ridiculous after hearing their reasons of "vibrations from departing aircraft may trigger landslips in the fjords". Sounds like total crap to me.

Agreed - they allow operations from Milford Sound so why not Te Anau which is no where near any Fjords.

PurpleBox.



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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 16):
What on earth is the Aztec?

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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5414 times:
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Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 19):
Piper PA-23 Aztec

thanks


User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 5374 times:

NZ also flew from Paraparaumu near Wellington a while back im not sure where to thou

I could also imagine more service out of Blenheim



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6407 posts, RR: 38
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

Quoting Nzrich (Reply 21):
NZ also flew from Paraparaumu near Wellington a while back im not sure where to thou

This was when Rongatai Airport (current WLG) was not used for commercial flights. I don't believe it has much potential unless the size of Porirua and the Hutt Valley grows immensely so that traffic to get to the airport gets too big etc. If AKL doesn't need 2 airports then WLG certainly won't.



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User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Quoting Nzrich (Reply 21):NZ also flew from Paraparaumu near Wellington a while back im not sure where to thou
This was when Rongatai Airport (current WLG) was not used for commercial flights. I don't believe it has much potential unless the size of Porirua and the Hutt Valley grows immensely so that traffic to get to the airport gets too big etc. If AKL doesn't need 2 airports then WLG certainly won't.

Ahh no as i remember it in one of the older timetables while WLG was operating and it would of been within the last 15 years im guessing !!!! At the time i believe Motueka was also in the timetable ...Was not meaning NZ should service it was just adding previous airports like Mt Cook etc

Could imagine Kaikoura doing well thou ...



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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7087 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):
Are there any towns in New Zealand gunning for an NZ service but yet to get one?

Marsterton or Paraparaumu? Dunno


25 777ER : NZ served Paraparaumu airport when WLG was closed so it could be re-built Porirua City and the Kapiti Coast are some of New Zealands fastest growing
26 ZKNSJ : kaikoura have a daily (i think) cessna 208 service to wellington with soundsair, a b1900 service from nelson to greymouth wouldnt be a bad idea, the b
27 Broocy : You are correct. Paraparaumu used to be "Wellington" airport back in the NAC days, but NZ had a short lived Paraparaumu service up to AKL with a Metr
28 Nzrich : Thanks i thought so as i was only 1 when Air NZ and NAC merged so would not of remembered prior to WLG airport.. Was thinking i was going nuts thanks
29 Flyjetstar : I think the AKL Airport Company want you to think that Auckland doesn't need another airport, protecting their own interests which makes sense. I'm s
30 Rongotai : Justto mop up some of the gaps in this thread. NAC used to service WLG-TIU-OAM with an F27 that night stopped in OAM. That was abandoned when it becam
31 Mr AirNZ : Knowing the operating cost of the 1900D and loads/airfares on this route, I find this executive mis-informed. I don't work for Eagle but can't see th
32 Post contains images PureKiwi : I thought origin pacific was going to service this route until ANZ came in a week after they were announced and Origin had to pull out because of the
33 TG992 : I've only just found this thread but I've been thinking about this for sometime. New cities which I'm not 100% sure of but if we had to get any new on
34 ZKOJH : I agree with something more from IVC, something's got to come from there, I mean why would you expand the runway, if your not going to use it, maybe W
35 777ER : Sounds Air only use WLG. You must be thinking of Air2there.com (all business class commuter airline) that has its base at Paraparaumu and flys around
36 Flyjetstar : I wonder how many NZ routes fall into this catagory? Is there an underlying thought that NZ has to fly routes it looses money on as part of being the
37 Mr AirNZ : No. Routes losing money are cut back or suspended. The Link airlines are out to make money not lose it. As for all the speculation some of you aren't
38 TG992 : Hmmm the domestic side of the airline is the side making the money but I think there are a few areas which may not be doing so well yet still in serv
39 Flyjetstar : Are you sure? Based on this comment:
40 777ER : Taupo routes will now be loosing money because of the increased airport costs at TUO, as a result of it, NZ has cut back TUO services and WLG-Whangar
41 NZ107 : Having smaller planes flying regularly throughout NZ would be good, If they do get some Dash-8-1/200's or even more Beech 1900D's, I hope for a big or
42 TG992 : I could be wrong and i've not looked this one up but didn't NZ get the last of the 1900D's???
43 777ER : Yes NZ was the last airline to receive a 1900D, unless NZ107 is talking about second hand 1900Ds. Wanaka would be a good seasonal airport due to its
44 Mr AirNZ : Eagle are currently in the market for Beech number 17. They have engineers scouting around the States as I write this (2nd Hand obviously). As I said
45 ZK-NBT : Nice! Currently the ATR only route ex AKL is AKL-PMR several times daily along with a couple of Saabs or maybe Dash 8's now. Hmm, I wasn't aware of t
46 NZ107 : And also there is the one daily ATR to NPE. Neither was I.. lol Air NZ has a tendency to get the last of the line models
47 TG992 : May have been the last but still a great aircraft. I really think we could get away with a few more ATR's myself, AKL - NPE should see more ATR's, gi
48 ODwyerPW : I have been to both Nelson and Palmerston North. I can't imagine there is enough demand to link those cities together. Strange.
49 Rongotai : . So can I deduce from your comments that the Beech has turned some routes that lost money with Metroliners and Bandeirantes into profitable ones, an
50 Mr AirNZ : I have heard OAM touted but nothing substantial I think the ATR might be a little big, the Beech isn't even full each day but there is certainly great
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