YULspotter From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4040 times:
First time post for me.
I've been enjoying reading the posts for the past few months and decided it was time to join and get in on the discussions.
Just saw Air France's 747-400 land at YUL. It came in on Saturday around 5:10pm.
Does anyone know if this means the 747-400 is back (at least until the fall)? I know that they were still using the A340 for this flight earlier this week.
The other thing I am wondering about is if Air France was planning on replacing the 747 with the A380. They have already confirmed that they will be using the A380 on their Paris-Montreal route. It would seem like a logical choice. I hope not. Though I can't wait to see the A380 at YUL, I would sure miss seeing the 747-400. Any thoughts on this?
HB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4523 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3921 times:
Air France was not supposed to bring the B744 to YUL this summer, but their planning has apparently changed as the 744 is again showing on the schedules. The aircraft was instead supposed to go to JFK, but it has been taken of the schedule and swapped with the B773 that was supposed to go to YUL.
Marco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3856 times:
It seems that they have somewhat downsized this year. Last summer they were flying a daily B773, B744 and A330. Now it's down to daily B772/B744/A340. Perhaps not much of a difference but significantly lower premium seats (there are 67 J seats on the 773). Yes I know summer is the low season for business travel but markets grow ... anyway are things working out with 3 daily flights for AF? Will the frequency remain the same when the A380 is introduced?
Aad665 From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3832 times:
still, AF use to operate 747 in winter time. Only last winter they change equipement for something "different".
You have to understand that AF 747 is now the less premium aircrafts in the fleet. Y don't have PTV, J have old seat and F are removed. That the reason they bring 77X over the winter now...to cater premium passenger with a very good F and J products
With all due respect, Wikipedia is not the most reliable web-based encyclopedia!!! It's been under fire lately for providing false information! Think about it this way: the person filling in that information could be a 5-year old, seeing as anyone is capable of posting information!!!
Just my $0.02 (CDN)
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FLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5019 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3599 times:
"Air France Commits to 10 A380s
Air France has firmed up its MOU to buy the Airbus A380 superjumbo, choosing to commit to 10 firm orders for the aircraft, with four options.
Air France is scheduled to take delivery in November 2006, and plans to configure the aircraft in a three-class layout with approximately 555 seats. It is the first A380 buyer to choose the GE-Pratt & Whitney Engine Alliance GP7000 powerplant for the aircraft.
The airline plans to use the aircraft to connect Paris with Los Angeles, Montreal, New York and Tokyo. Air France President Jean-Cyril Spinetta says he isn't concerned about airport issues with the aircraft in any of those sites. "Today, we operate a flight from Paris to the French West Indies that carries more than 500 people on a 747-300," he said. "We know how to do it, and we will know how to do it on a new aircraft."
Spinetta cited four reasons for purchasing the aircraft: the finite number of take-off slots available at the world's busiest airports; a promised lower noise signature; low cost per seat mile; and "the improved service that the extra space makes possible."
Airbus Chairman Noï¿½l Forgeard deflected a question about the value of the contract and whether the airframer slashed the price to make a deal. "The list price is $230 million, so the value is 10 times that, $2.3 billion, right? But I will also note that Air France has very good negotiators."
The announcement, made late Monday afternoon, was Airbus's third for the day, after earlier orders by JetBlue and Royal Air Maroc for narrowbodies.
Forgeard said that Monday's orders put Airbus's book for the year at 188, and said that by the end of the week, the company will have announced enough orders to drive its book over 300 for 2001. At least one of those aircraft orders will include the A380. Forgeard alluded to a press conference today involving a major cargo carrier.