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No More Iberia's 747-400 From July 1st?  
User currently offlineIberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 574 posts, RR: 38
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4623 times:

The current status of Iberia's wet-leased 747-400 was discussed here on airliners.net recently: Iberia B747-400 Still In Service? (by Falcon flyer Feb 19 2006 in Civil Aviation)

According to the timetables on Amadeus, the current IB's 747-400 routes to TFN and HAV will switch to Airbus 340-300 starting on July 1st. Can anyone confirm this?

Does this mean that the lease contract with Air Atlanta will finally end? And that more Airbus 340-600 (2) will join Iberia's fleet? There are currently 11 in IB's fleet, according to the mentioned thread.

It's sad that there we won't see any Jumbos anymore in Iberia's fleet. The remaining two are TF-AMA and TF-AMB.


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By the way, Iberia has this coming week special fares, you can get a roundtrip ticket on this plane (MAD-TFN-MAD) for just 58 Euro + taxes (for example on Saturdays), so maybe I will consider a flight on this 747.

And the brand new Air Europa's A330-200 will be flying....on the HAV route.

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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1880 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

TF-AMA and TF-AMB would go to Oasis International Airlines of HongKong.

User currently offlineIcaro From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4574 times:

The wet lease contract with Air Atlanta will finish at the end of June.

Instead a new contract has been signed with Audeli for the operation of 2 A-340/300. They will be flown in the same routes. These A343's come from the current IB fleet and will be operated by Audeli pilots and cabin crew.

In addition to those planes, the whole fleet of B-757's will also be operated by Audeli again with their pilots and cabin crew.

This means Iberia is firing around 250 FA's with a temporary contract. Also around 50 pursers will start flying as FA's again.

All this happens because no agreement has been reached between Iberia and its unions.

Sad news.


User currently offlineIberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 574 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 1):



Quoting Icaro (Reply 2):

Thanks for your info! Yes, indeed these are bad news  Sad , especially:

Quoting Icaro (Reply 2):
This means Iberia is firing around 250 FA's with a temporary contract.


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter):
And that more Airbus 340-600 (2) will join Iberia's fleet?

EC-JOH was just delivered to Iberia the other day so that makes the A340-600 fleet now 12.



No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

This is a shame. I tried to get the IB 744 MAD-TFN-MAD flight, but I can't do it without having to overnight the day before (Friday)  Sad.
Are there any other short-haul widebody IB flights from MAD to somewhere other than TFN ?

Wrighbrothers



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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4565 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 5):
Are there any other short-haul widebody IB flights from MAD to somewhere other than TFN ?

LPA is flown by the A340-300 and sometimes the A340-600.



No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineEE-Kay From Ireland, joined Nov 2001, 152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4431 times:

Quoting Icaro (Reply 2):
This means Iberia is firing around 250 FA's with a temporary contract. Also around 50 pursers will start flying as FA's again.

All this happens because no agreement has been reached between Iberia and its unions.

I guess that explains the could-hardly-be-worse attitude of most of Iberia's cabin staff.


User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Quoting Icaro (Reply 2):
Instead a new contract has been signed with Audeli for the operation of 2 A-340/300. They will be flown in the same routes. These A343's come from the current IB fleet and will be operated by Audeli pilots and cabin crew.

This is what I didn't want to see happening. If I pay to fly IB then I WANT to fly IB...not Audeli. I gladly put my safety in the hands of experienced IB crews but not on Audeli's.

Thank God I am flying to UIO and back before the end of June. I wouldn't be amused at all if I was going to fly IB longhaul beyond June 30 and upon bording the A343 I saw the "Operado por Audeli" titles next to the aircraft's door.

Do you know which are the A343s that will be handed over to Audeli?

I am serious when I say that if this is going to become "the norm" then I'll choose another carrier for my longahul flights.

Quoting Icaro (Reply 2):
In addition to those planes, the whole fleet of B-757's will also be operated by Audeli again with their pilots and cabin crew.

The whole fleet huh?. No 757s in IB's colours for me then.

Quoting Icaro (Reply 2):
This means Iberia is firing around 250 FA's with a temporary contract. Also around 50 pursers will start flying as FA's again.

Wow!! what a great way to cut costs!!...whose idea is this?. What about those "high rank" executives at "Velázquez 130" that do nothing but to warm a chair and read the newspapers?. There are more of them than aircraft on IB's fleet, and their salaries are an insult to many other employees.

Seriously...this guy Conte and his "colleagues" are getting on my nerves.

I see strikes coming up for the summer season (I hope I am wrong, although I would understand the reasons).

When I booked my flights to UIO a few weeks ago I was about to choose KL because I wanted to try their MD11. In the last minute I decided to choose IB again, maybe because due to the fact that my mother is flying with me and the trip with KL could have been too long for her (she hates flying).

I hope I won't have to regret my decision.

[Edited 2006-04-03 00:03:27]


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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

One of my Flight Instructors from South Africa had just been recalled by Air Atlanta to fly those 744's for IB when I was there last week. He was due to leave SA this weekend for MAD.

Guess it's only going to be a short deployment for him then !!.

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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2954 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Is Audeli the equivalent of Jalways is to JAL?
I am not very familiar with the Spanish market but TFN & HAV seems like an leisure heavy route.


User currently offlineAirportmanager From Ecuador, joined Mar 2001, 558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 8):

This is what I didn't want to see happening. If I pay to fly IB then I WANT to fly IB...not Audeli. I gladly put my safety in the hands of experienced IB crews but not on Audeli's.

Thank God I am flying to UIO and back before the end of June. I wouldn't be amused at all if I was going to fly IB longhaul beyond June 30 and upon bording the A343 I saw the "Operado por Audeli" titles next to the aircraft's door.

Do you know which are the A343s that will be handed over to Audeli?

I am serious when I say that if this is going to become "the norm" then I'll choose another carrier for my longahul flights.

So there was a chance that IB744 could of come into UIO? Now what? I never heard of these AUDELI operators. I hear IBERIA and its IBERIA. Weird...


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