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No Meal On A 6 Hour Flight In F?  
User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16163 times:

I just booked a flight from SEA-JFK in F on July 31st on DL. It departs at 11:44AM, and it is listed as having no meal. I called up DL to see if this was a misprint and the agent says she had it down as not having a meal either....
I know DL is cutting back, but this is rediculous.


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16130 times:

Reading the title, it was clear that this had to be a US carrier. Ridiculous. It's time to scrap the cabotage law.

User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16089 times:

I was on DL from ATL-SEA a couple months ago. There was no meal on that one either - although you could buy a snack box for $5. Don't waste your time - unless you think a pair of crackers, a half ounce of Parmesan cheese / horseradish dip (???), and a piece of leather pepperoni is worth $5.

Take food with you. Load up on snacks and such before you get on that flight and you will be just fine. I would even reccommend taking a big bottle of water with you as they only made 2 drink runs on my 5.5 hour flight.

Not to slam DL too harshly, but the F/A's on that flight I was on were about as sharp as a marble. The guy next to me asked one what kind of wines they had and she replied "we have red and white".  sarcastic 

Have a good flight!  bigthumbsup 

Drew  wave 



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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 16056 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 2):
was on DL from ATL-SEA a couple months ago. There was no meal on that one either - although you could buy a snack box for $5. Don't waste your time - unless you think a pair of crackers, a half ounce of Parmesan cheese / horseradish dip (???), and a piece of leather pepperoni is worth $5.

Take food with you. Load up on snacks and such before you get on that flight and you will be just fine. I would even reccommend taking a big bottle of water with you as they only made 2 drink runs on my 5.5 hour flight.

Not to slam DL too harshly, but the F/A's on that flight I was on were about as sharp as a marble. The guy next to me asked one what kind of wines they had and she replied "we have red and white".

Have a good flight!

Drew

Wait...was this in Y or F?



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User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15981 times:

that is farcical. Just imagine if you had connected from a long haul flight or had come straight from a meeting, had paid extra so you could travel F and had no idea there was no meal so bought nothing yourself. You would miss lunch and dinner realistically, as you'd get to NYC pretty late and have either nothing or a snack box.

I have been on shorter interconti routes, where they serve dinner and breakfast even in Y...



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User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15981 times:

Quoting DL4EVR (Thread starter):
No Meal On A 6 Hour Flight In F?



Quoting DL4EVR (Thread starter):
I just booked a flight from SEA-JFK in F on July 31st on DL.

No way SEA-JFK is 6 hours!...lol

Hell I just did LAX-ATL in 3:18.


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4971 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15958 times:
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Quoting DL4EVR (Thread starter):
I just booked a flight from SEA-JFK in F on July 31st on DL. It departs at 11:44AM, and it is listed as having no meal. I called up DL to see if this was a misprint and the agent says she had it down as not having a meal either....
I know DL is cutting back, but this is rediculous.

I wouldn't worry about it...there will be a meal. As often happens when new flights are loaded, the meals are not updated at the same time. This is a "new" flight in the sense that this flight was not operating in the winter (even though there was a 2nd SEA-JFK flight last summer) and is now a 738 with a new flight number instead of the previous Song 757 last summer. I've noticed that when new flights (or flights with equipment type or flight numbers changed) are initially loaded in the system, they show up as no meals even though in reality, there will be something....


User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15931 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 2):
There was no meal on that one either - although you could buy a snack box for $5.

Delta has never sold those snack boxes. I think you're confused. And there was no way that was F class.

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 2):
The guy next to me asked one what kind of wines they had and she replied "we have red and white".

And?

Quoting BA380 (Reply 4):
that is farcical.



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
Reading the title, it was clear that this had to be a US carrier. Ridiculous.

American passnegers have spoken, and all they care about is lower fares.

[Edited 2006-04-03 18:32:07]

User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15836 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 5):
No way SEA-JFK is 6 hours!...lol

Hell I just did LAX-ATL in 3:18

It's listed as 5:22



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User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15807 times:

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 8):
It's listed as 5:22

5:22 < 6:00


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15740 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 9):
5:22 < 6:00

Gee do we have to be so freakin literal here? The point is, DL's trigger time for meals in F is 3:30.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15708 times:

I'm sure you will get a meal in FC, especially since even NW gives you a light lunch/breakfast/dinner on DEN-MSP legs... I got a hot breakfast on NW last month ATL-MSP..


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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15691 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 11):
I'm sure you will get a meal in FC, especially since even NW gives you a light lunch/breakfast/dinner on DEN-MSP legs... I got a hot breakfast on NW last month ATL-MSP..

Well I think on NW the flight only has to be something like 2.5 hours in order to get a hot meal in F. In fact DL has the longest time in order to get a hot meal in F. Nonetheless, JFK-SEA falls into that meal window.



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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15669 times:

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 10):
The point is, DL's trigger time for meals in F is 3:30.

I think American Airlines is most sensible - a meal in F if the flight is over 1:45. Why you would fly for three hours in First without a meal is beyond me.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15610 times:

I just want to know what the extra $800 in the ticket price is on flights where there's no meal in F. Is the seat worth THAT much more? Who in their right mind would pay $1200 for a 2 hour flight without a meal???


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User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9727 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15584 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 2):
I

..... asked one what kind of wines they had and she replied "we have red and white".


I heard that answer many times, I usually order a sparkling water then, or, if it's in a restaurant, I get up and leave the place.

Still, it can be topped when they offer you some ice cubes because your Chardonney is not at the right temperature.

I flew DL several times domestic in F when it still was a good airline, some 20 years ago. With all the cut backs I can imagine that even if you get something to eat, it does in no way compare with the standards in Asia or Europe.



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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15584 times:

Quoting BA380 (Reply 4):
that is farcical. Just imagine if you had connected from a long haul flight or had come straight from a meeting, had paid extra so you could travel F and had no idea there was no meal so bought nothing yourself. You would miss lunch and dinner realistically, as you'd get to NYC pretty late and have either nothing or a snack box.

I have been on shorter interconti routes, where they serve dinner and breakfast even in Y...

 thumbsup 

And to think on LGW-JER in BA Club Europe I got a full cooked breakfast and a couple of drinks rounds on a 35min flight!

I'm flying from BOS-SFO-SEA and back in AA/AS F twice in the next few months. I haven't flown F within the US for some years and am dreading it...The fact is First Class shouldn't be such a chore!

But having read what everyone else has said I wouldn't be surprised if the meal hasn't been loaded. Then again these are American carriers....



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21580 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15584 times:

It's simple. many systems list the meal status for Y only, even if you are in F. This means nothing. You should get lunch in F, as the flight is during lunch time. I'd be shocked if you weren't fed.

I see this all the time on CO and AA itineraries, and if the CSR wasn't aware that this is how they are listed, they wouldn't know.



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User currently offlineFoxDelta From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15554 times:

The meal issue with US airlines explains why they suck so much in their domestic operation. You buy F and get what? Not much other than the extra room...

Cheers  yuck 


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15535 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 15):
I flew DL several times domestic in F when it still was a good airline, some 20 years ago. With all the cut backs I can imagine that even if you get something to eat, it does in no way compare with the standards in Asia or Europe.

It still is a good airline in comparison with its domestic competitors. All domestic F has pretty much turned to crap. However, in comparison to Asian carriers...totally different story.



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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15512 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16):
I'm flying from BOS-SFO-SEA and back in AA/AS F twice in the next few months. I haven't flown F within the US for some years and am dreading it...The fact is First Class shouldn't be such a chore!

The BOS-SFO and back sectors on AA (presumably) will be quite fine. You can check my trip reports for a LAX-JFK earlier this year. Comfortable seats, good food, bone china, great portions, napkins, tablecloth, but plastic cutlery. IFE is mainscreen.

On AS from SFO-SEA, there is no meal service - I flew YVR-LAX in F on AS and they had no meal on a 2.5 hour flight I believe. They are generous with the charm and drinks and the F cabin is nicely furnished so you'll be fine.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineAirScoot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 688 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15512 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17):
It's simple. many systems list the meal status for Y only, even if you are in F. This means nothing. You should get lunch in F, as the flight is during lunch time. I'd be shocked if you weren't fed.

I assume the OP is talking about DL1893. It's operated with a 73S (old DLEX equipment?) and it doesn't show any meal service. The flight above it, however (DL1514) shows 757 service and it's full breakfast up front and BOB in the back. I wonder if it has anything to do with the galley on the 737-200?

Ikramerica - normally I would agree with you.. but DL tends to be on top of what they're offering food on and what they're not. The one carrier that will do what you're suggesting is CO.. but they have food on that routes.. it just took some digging to find it.


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15413 times:

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 3):
Not to slam DL too harshly, but the F/A's on that flight I was on were about as sharp as a marble. The guy next to me asked one what kind of wines they had and she replied "we have red and white".

Have a good flight!

Drew

Wait...was this in Y or F?

More likely FRBig grin You don't suppose DL is taking lessons from MO'L?


User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15413 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 7):
American passnegers have spoken, and all they care about is lower fares.

Bull. We care about service too, it's just incredibly hard to find.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 7):
Delta has never sold those snack boxes. I think you're confused. And there was no way that was F class.

You are right about the class - I was indeed in Y and not F.

Regarding DL First Class, my most recent flight in First on DL was BHM-ATL-SLC-GEG, and the service was halfway decent. There was a hot meal on the ATL-SLC leg.

Drew



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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4971 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 15355 times:
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Quoting AirScoot (Reply 21):
I assume the OP is talking about DL1893. It's operated with a 73S (old DLEX equipment?) and it doesn't show any meal service. The flight above it, however (DL1514) shows 757 service and it's full breakfast up front and BOB in the back. I wonder if it has anything to do with the galley on the 737-200?

It's not a 737-200; it will be operated by an 737-800 with IFE, etc. And yes, THERE WILL BE A HOT LUNCH served in F on DL1893 from SEA to JFK. As mentioned, the CRS is not showing it correctly right now because it's a new flight. The same thing I noticed when DL first introduced LGA-MIA; originally they showed no meals but now they show "S" for snack service. LGA-MIA changes flight numbers again in June and again, the meal service section is blanked out again, seeming to indicate no meal service but there will be the same service as currently.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16):
And to think on LGW-JER in BA Club Europe I got a full cooked breakfast and a couple of drinks rounds on a 35min flight!



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
Reading the title, it was clear that this had to be a US carrier



Quoting BA380 (Reply 4):
I have been on shorter interconti routes, where they serve dinner and breakfast even in Y...



Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16):
I haven't flown F within the US for some years and am dreading it...The fact is First Class shouldn't be such a chore!

But having read what everyone else has said I wouldn't be surprised if the meal hasn't been loaded. Then again these are American carriers....



Quoting FoxDelta (Reply 18):
The meal issue with US airlines explains why they suck so much in their domestic operation. You buy F and get what? Not much other than the extra room...

If you're willing to pay $2000 roundtrip between SEA and JFK in F, then I'm sure DL will be more than willing to serve you a nice hot three or four-course lunch. All these complaints about foreign airlines providing meal service on short flights, have you actually looked at prices charged versus these domestic First runs? Here are some comparison:

SEA-JFK roundtrip in F on DL: US$828 (including taxes)

Shorter routes in other parts of world (totally random sampling):

SIN-TPE roundtrip on SQ: In C: US$1606+ taxes roundtrip; In F: US$2162+ taxes roundtrip

CDG-IST roundtrip on AF: In C: US$2346

FRA-IST roundtrip on LH: In C: US$1990

CDG-SVO roundtrip on AF: In C: US$2503

Would you like me to continue?

Mind you, all of these flights are shorter in duration than SEA-JFK and except for the SQ flights, none of them offer a much larger seat or more legroom than Y (on AF and LH, you may get the middle seat blocked but you're essentially in the same Y seat on those A320s)


25 DL4EVR : Weird...because LAX-JFK rt in F on DL is something like $1400. The duration is basically the same...do you think they're offering some sort of servic
26 Post contains images Pawsleykat : I know that EDI-ATL is quite a bit longer than SEA-JFK, but i hope to fly with Delta on their new EDI-ATL route in the Summer and I will book business
27 AirScoot : Deltamatic through direct connect is showing the aircraft type as 73S (737-200 Stretch) - hence my comments. It's also showing through direct connect
28 Khobar : Just for grins I checked LHR-LUX and found KLM charges a total of $187.75 for this trip. They fly a 767 from LHR to AMS (1hr20mn) 217mi. They fly a Fo
29 Ctbarnes : I agree with you Andrew. The belief all Americans care about is low fares is an industry myth that's proving increadibly difficult to dislodge. Charl
30 AirxLiban : Plus SEA-JFK is domestic while all the other ones are international.
31 ASFlyer : Hardly anyone actually pays the F fares. In the good ole US of A, First Class is used primarily as a marketing tool to lure frequent flyers. It's a g
32 B6sea : Yep, You'll definately get a meal. 763 BizElite. Have a nice flight... BusinessElite is really nice (not lie flat but incredibly comfy). FAs in Busin
33 DL4EVR : Well maybe if they offered something other than a wider seat, people would pay the fares. Anyway, I read somewhere that approx. 50% of F flyers in th
34 TwoLz2Rn : i know i am probably going to get reamed for this, BUT it is kind of funny how bent out of shape some people get...i mean seriously...people are going
35 Mah584jr : I definitely feel this is a great option. Not only is the food cheaper, but it tastes better on most occasions. This, of course, I can only say to th
36 DL4EVR : Yeah, but it's also a pain in the neck having to drag an extra bag with you, when you already have the 2 bag limit. It would be nice if Y got some de
37 FLY2LIM : Totally off topic, but whatever happened to the flight attendant who was fired for having her blog showing her wearing a DL uniform? FLY2LIM
38 Post contains links DL4EVR : http://queenofsky.journalspace.com/
39 Dartland : As was pointed out above, you WILL get a meal on this flight. I flew DL BOS-ATL last summer and got a hot meal in F (and that is shorter than SEA-JFK)
40 Post contains links ATLflyer : You will get a meal...Delta's website says that flights 3.5+ hours will get a snack AND complimentary meal. http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...n/i
41 TwoLz2Rn : what was the purpose of putting up that journalspace site??
42 IDAWA : Are you sure about that? Last year Alitalia gave me an Alisnack sandwich on MIL-MAD and a full meal on FCO-ARN. If nothing has changed, you should ge
43 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Then with all due respect to you then you are either an idiot or a severe exception to the rule. It is this kind of acceptance of lousy service that
44 Panamair : I know that many CRS are showing it as a 73S but I don't believe the 732 has the range to even attempt SEA-JFK with a full payload. Besides, delta.co
45 Post contains images SA7700 : I paid USD148 (including taxes) for a roundtrip on SA Express Airways DH8, BFN-JNB-BFN - a 01h10min flight. Cold meals and a bar services, consisting
46 JFK998 : Was the DL flight direct? Because all the JFK>SEA non-stop flights are operated by Song, and Song doesn't have a first class section.
47 Panamair : Yes, please do, and I think you'll find that your example is fast becoming more the exception these days than the rule. More airlines will be heading
48 DL4EVR : Fly2Lim asked about what happened to that F/A who was fired for posting pix in a DL uniform. This will be after May 1.
49 NWBOS : Yes, Panamair you are correct. The European carriers are not far behind on the cuts in inflight service. The American carriers just accelerated the pr
50 Khobar : No, I'm not sure at all. Just that nothing showed up when I checked alitalia.com, etc.
51 DL4EVR : Well the airlines give away their F seats way too easily. Perhaps if they MADE people pay for it instead of letting people upgrade for free they'd be
52 Sunking737 : Dude go to suncountry.com they fly for JFK to SEA via MSP you can fly F/C and get a great meal at NO CHARGE.
53 SA7700 : Even with LCC on lucrative routes like JNB-CPT-JNB, where there are at least 6 carriers (of which 1Time Aero and Kulula are LCC) operating direct fli
54 AA767400 : OK. We got that DL DOES SERVE a meal on SEA-JFK. So why do we keep overlooking that fact?
55 Post contains links Khobar : Then why are the lowest-cost carriers not enjoying 100% load-factors? At the same time, why are "the majors" still in business at all if price is the
56 TwoLz2Rn : THANK YOU!
57 Mozart : "And".... this passenger was expecting an answer like "Pouilly-Fuisse", "Gevrey Chambertin", "Brunello di Montalcino" or "Rioja". But I assume this F
58 A340600 : The fact is, there's this is supposed to be FIRST class, some knowledge of the wine list would be good! Indeed. Or even better, for £62 return in Do
59 ASFlyer : It's kind of a case of which came first? The chicken or the egg? I've been in the industry since 1985. I've seen a very rapid decline in inflight ser
60 Yazoo : Sounds ridiculous! I even had a dinner on my 40 minute flight AMS-CDG on coach. No meal on a 6 hour flight is way beyond pushing it imho
61 Ssides : I've flown the late MIA-DFW leg several times in F and haven't gotten a meal. Some American passengers care enough about service, but not enough to c
62 Panamair : Do you guys actually bother reading the other posts? We've already established that there is meal service on the flight (Replies 6, 17, 24, 27, 40, 5
63 AA777223 : Yeah.. probably with the time change! Without it that would make it almost exactly 6 hours. Imagine that!
64 Post contains images AA767400 : Mozart, I understand where you are coming from but economy class wines in the states don't warrant someone saying the names because they are not top
65 Post contains links Bphendri : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060403/ap_on_bi_ge/airline_quality Just read this on Yahoo News, really makes me sick! The decline in service aboard US c
66 Zootrix : Agree 100%! In Nov. 05, flew CLT-ORF on US, paid an exhorbitant $946 (corporate price) and not even a glass of H20. Sorry, its got to be 3rd rate scr
67 LH410 : Peut être, tu as raison - the problem is that even though the FA had been able to pronounce the French, Spanish, Italian, German, etc Grand Crus, De
68 Mozart : Errr.... we are discussing a flight in F, aren't we? And mind you, I've also had this "red and white" in International F on United (Los Angeles-Londo
69 Boo25 : Bit of a joke for the customer - no doubt captain up front still gets a massive pension while you sit there famished... Even on a 35 min flight (LHR-A
70 RichM : I don't see the big deal. If you book a 6 hour train journey, you don't get a free meal. (At least not in the UK anyway) So what's the big fuss about
71 AA767400 : Mozart, You can't expect other countries to do things "A la Francaise". You will have to just understand that some people just don't do Haute cuisine
72 Post contains images Khobar : If Southwest hadn't hedged its fuel, it wouldn't be the most profitable airline in the US. Look out a couple of years down the road - Southwest is go
73 AA767400 : I don't drink alchohol. So....house water.
74 BAW716 : Some points to consider a) DL F class is just a wider seat for a LOT more money (jetBlue has 34 in seat pitch in the last half of the plane and PTV).
75 Brettdespain : Hi all. Can't resist weighing in on this one. First, I've been around the U.S. airline biz all my life: My Dad, Uncle, brother and myself were and are
76 Ctbarnes : But that's the joke. Service is why people keep flying WN, particularly as they are not always the cheapest seat going. The reason WN is so successfu
77 Post contains images Glid4500 : im sure you'll get something in first class. I flew Northwest back in January from LGA-MEM-LAX. On the MEM-LAX leg, the schedule book called for no fo
78 B777-700 : No, it is not a myth. When you listen in on a domestic reservations call center like I have, the only thing you hear is "I'm looking for the lowest f
79 Edds : Not quite right. Last week I did STR-HAM with DBA, it was 49,99$ one-way (incl. tax) and I got drinks and food for free and a good service. I really
80 ClassicLover : On AA? ... you will only get a snack if your flight is listed as a Snack flight and this is substantially less than what you get for a meal. In Febru
81 Hp2us : I had a group of women tonight flying out to DEN and they stated them selves that they would buy a ticket if it was $10 cheaper on a competitor, regua
82 Jumpseat70 : US passengers have always voted with their $$$$ and for now and since deregulation they have voted for PEANUTS... You get what you pay for.
83 Post contains images A340600 : Exactly. Then again, this is American F so it's hard to tell the difference sometimes But that's just it. Everyone keeps saying that and we keep show
84 Simpilicity : QF in the form of Jetstar Int will have no meals on SYD/HNL & HNL/SYD sectors which are around 9 & 10 hours resp.
85 Khobar : This is not correct. This should read "The Airlines claim that US passengers have always voted with their $$$$, but the very studies some have cited
86 ClassicLover : Unsubstantiated rumours again Simplicity? In actual fact, I believe JQ international will be allowing passengers to choose whether they wish to have
87 Fbgdavidson : Chapter 11?
88 Post contains images ClassicLover : Well said!
89 Khobar : And?
90 Ctbarnes : I'm not sure that's true anymore. If we are speaking in terms of amnities, they have more now than the so-called full service carriers, not to mentio
91 FlyDeltaJets : I dont see why they wont give a meal on that flight I take DL172 ATL JFK alot and the give a wrap with pasta salad. In the mornings to ATL you get bre
92 Fbgdavidson : You claimed the US doesn't have any government sponsored airlines. Which is clearly crap thanks to the workings of Chapter 11 bailing them out. 'One
93 PIA777 : That stuff is free now. I flew DL on a 737-800 to SLC via Denver and did not get a meal in first class but my return trip to ATL from SLC was nonstop
94 PIA777 : You must have gotten a good tail wind. I have flown that route closer to 4 hours. Once I flew ATL-Sacramento and it was 5 hours. PIA777
95 Khobar : First, where did I make any such claim? Second, before you comment about the US government bailing out airlines in Chapter 11, you should talk to som
96 Khobar : Like MG Rover which cancelled its debt and warranty contracts in part as protection from its creditors and is now selling...MG cars under new ownersh
97 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Apologies, that was Brettdespain. You seem much better informed than me anyways, I obviously need to knuckle down with The Economist and financial su
98 Simpilicity : Exactly !!! Proven correct again. The new JQ service HNL/MEL must surely be the longest route, 11 hours roughly I guess without meals. (if u don't pr
99 AnsettB727 : All I know is that I flew MEL-SYD last night with 55mins in the air, and down the back on QF we got dinner and as much wine as you can put away in suc
100 Simpilicity : just think in a few years, you'll probably get nothing, Qantas will be history & JQ will charge u for peanuts & fare will be much more than u're payi
101 Planeloco : This thread has truly touched a nerve. I once received nothing more than a "vegetable burrito" on NW travelling from BOM to AMS (+/-9 hours). To make
102 AADC10 : LAX-JFK is a flagship product for AA and UA. DL must offer something to at least attempt to match it. SEA is not big enough have the range of service
103 B777-700 : Oh look, more Europeaners who have no idea how Chapter 11 works! They just think is a big government bail out for the airlines!
104 DL4EVR : They providing any special services before song took over....what makes you think they're going to after the mainline takes over the route again?[Edi
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