United had made modifications to the cabin interior of the CP aircraft and added an additional fuel tank in the aft cargo compartementin order to enable a Seattle-HongKong nonstop service. These modifications were extended to two other CP Air aircraft foir a total of five of what was known as the DC-10-30ER model types, aircraft with a heavier gross take-off weight, slightly more engine thrust and longer range with additional fuel capacity.
Lijnden From Netherlands, joined Apr 2003, 557 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 9072 times:
DC-10:
The longest flight I have taken on a dc-10 was AMS > LAX (11:20) KLM (ph-dtd)
other flight on DC-10's:
HNL > ORD on UA
LAX > IAD on UA
SFO > Lihue on UA
AMS > IAD on NWA
IAD > AMS on NWA
LUX > KEF on Icelandair (n1035f)
KEF > JFK on Icelandair (n1035f)
LPA > AMS on Martinair (ph-mbt)
LPA > MAD on iberia (ec-cbo)
AMS > BWI on KLM (ph-dtl)
BWI > AMS on KLM (yv138c)
PTY > CUR on KLM (ph-dtb)
AMS > CDG > LIS > Recife > Manaus > RIO on Varig (pp-vmy)
RIO > LIS > CDG > AMS on Varig (pp-vmx)
CUR > JFK on American (n116aa)
Yes, and each time I've seen the aircraft at the airport, it was a DC-10-30, not -30ER. The flight operated once a week (monday) evening. Later the CGK leg was done by SQ.
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6465 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8898 times:
Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 4): there was GVA-SIN-CGK, GVA-JNB, GVA-GIG-GRU-EZE & GVA-LAX.
Planemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 989 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8792 times:
BG had:
DAC-DEL-DXB-BRU-JFK (9115 mi)
Now has:
DAC-DXB-BRU-JFK (9070 mi)
Will have*:
DAC-DXB-MAN-JFK (9060)
*Who knows when they will start -- some say it's only a figment of imagination.
Parisien From France, joined Dec 2000, 819 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8685 times:
if non stop route, Garuda Indonesia used to have a DC 10 flight from LAX to HNL continuing on to Biak in eastern Indonesia and on to Jakarta (CGK)...later on changed to MD11 cutting the stop in Biak.
ZRH-GVA-LAX started in Autumn 1989 and was operated by a DC-10-30ER probably up to the 1991/92 winter schedule, then by MD-11.
ZRH-GVA-SIN-CGK (Mon): don't know the start date, but was first flown only to SIN with code-share partner doing the last leg to CGK. SR formed its alliance with SQ & DL in 1989 if I remember well, so this should be the year that SR stopped to operate up to CGK. Then the SIN flight was operated out of ZRH from 1991.
ZRH-GVA-GIG-GRU-EZE (Tue; Thu; Sun) since at least (but probably before) the beginning of the 1980s. At first, the flight had to stop at DKR, both way, then came the -30ER which allowed a non-stop flight. Don't remember the exact date of change, but the MD-11 certainly took over the route in 1991/92, before flying it out of ZRH.
And the ZRH-GVA-JNB (Tue; Fri; Sun) route was flown probably up to 1991/92 winter schedule too. Then the MD-11 took over for a while, and later the route was flown out out of ZRH.
Interestingly, only the South America flight flew back through GVA. All others were going directly to ZRH on the return flght.
If anybody here have more precise details about all these facts, do not hesitate to correct me, I was too young to know all the details then.
Ravel From Finland, joined Feb 2006, 137 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8629 times:
At some point the longest DC-10 flight was from Helsinki to Tokyo with Finnair's DC-10-30ER. Since Finnair didn't get a permission to fly over Soviet Union, the flight had to fly via North Pole so it was quite long...
Jupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 757 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8384 times:
AOM used to fly PAR/CMB/SYD/NOU, sectors broke up as follows
PAR/CMB 5281
CMB/SYD 5444
SYD/NOU 1230
TOTAL 11956 NM
If memory serves correct UTA used to fly a DC 10 that routed CDG/BAH/SIN/CGK/SYD/AKL/PPT/LAX, the aircraft basically flew under the one flight number, just an (A) added to the flight number from SYD.
KDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 807 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8108 times:
Quoting FOMEA (Reply 15): Route no longer exists.
I think they still have MSP -HNL .
Yes, the axed DTW-HNL but MSP-HNL. Does anyone think seasonal DTW-HNL service will return?
Cure From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8064 times:
IIRC back in 1992 KL used to fly an AMS-AUA-GUA, which is a total of 5650nm with a DC10-30 (AMS-AUA: 4898, but I don't think they were refueling in AUA...can anyone help me?), maybe not the longest, but long.
Fanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1894 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7177 times:
Even some medium-range series -10s were retrofitted for long-haul work. I believe the initial batch was ordered by All Nippon but later cancelled. THY (including the ill-fated ship that crashed in Ermenonville in 1974) and Laker used these aircraft for trans-Atlantic services. Laker boasted that these series -10s were much more fuel-efficient than their greater-MTOW series -30 and -40 bretheren, keeping Sir Freddie's costs down.
Interestingly enough, other series -10s were retrofitted, including G-BELO, which uses its extra tankage to this day as a flying hospital for Orbis, covering all corners of the globe.
Beechnut From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 708 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7078 times:
United Seattle-Hong Kong, 5648 n.m.
Canadian (CP) Vancouver-Hong Kong 5555 n.m.
And the one I flew on once, CP Toronto-Tokyo 5574 n.m. (13h53 min)
So looks like SEA-HKG wins. All three were on CP DC-10s however (the United DC-10ERs retained their Canadian registration; CP received a like number of United DC-10-10s for domestic and transatlantic ops in exchange and these retained their US registration).
27 WJ: Can't forget SK's LAX-CPH run - 5624nm But the ones who I think has them all beat for NON-STOPS (which is what I believe this thread was about) VG lon
28 Stirling: Was that a regularly scheduled flight? And was it nonstop? When was it?
29 Magyarorszag: According to Great Circle Mapper, CCS-BEY is 5665nm and 6520mi. Was it a nonstop flight?[Edited 2006-04-04 19:32:50]
30 Dc863: My guess is that it stopped either in Lisbon, Madrid or Rome before going to Beirut.
31 Tbnist03: Personally, I don't see that happening. With NW still not doing well from being in bankrupcy, adding a route that may / may not have many pax flying
32 Alphafloor: Yes, and don't forget forget ZRH-GVA-DKR-GIG-EZE-SCL in the early 80's. Cheers, Alejandro
33 Luisde8cd: Sorry I always confuse miles with nautical miles, you are right. Depending on the season, it would stop in CIA. But some seasonal flights were nonsto
35 Cedars747: Hola Luis ! Early seventies ,Viasa use to fly from CCS to BEY via FCO onboard DC-10 Alex !!!
36 Eilennaei: The length of the AY HEL-Tokyo Polar route is stated to be 11,024 km, or 6,850 mi, or 5,952 nm, covered in 13,5 hrs, quoting from the semiofficial hi
37 Kiwiandrew: not quite - in the mid-70s NZ used to operate AKL-HNL-LAX and then pass the a/c over to BA to operate LAX-LHR - it was an 'interchange' agreement - b
38 PIA777: My longest DC10 flight was AA, ORD-HNL-ORD in 1998. PIA777
39 Magyarorszag: 13,5 hours? Whaou! I remember that the SR DC-10-30ER were pushed to their limits with the GVA/ZRH-LAX (12 hrs) routes, with regular unsched fuel stop
40 Eilennaei: The AY -ER had double the extra fuel tank capacity than the earlier (pre-1982) -ERs, says my source.[Edited 2006-04-04 21:44:05]
41 PPVRA: I'm pretty sure Varig flew GIG-GRU-JNB-BKK in the 80's with the -10s. That's 9062nm!
42 Kiwiandrew: at one time ( not sure whether DC-10s or 747s ) RG also extended from BKK on to HKG .pretty impressive at 9972 nm ... but still well short of the UT
43 Magyarorszag: SR -30ERs were designed to fly nonstop from GVA to GIG. As you said, Soviet Union air space was then closed to western airlines, thus forcing flight
44 Timz: We still don't know if the original question was asking about nonstops-- but if it was, has anyone found a timetable or OAG showing a longer nonstop (
45 Magyarorszag: I've seached through my papers, and have retrieved a "DC-10 Interchange" report. It was published in Air Pictorial in November 1978. "On 13th Decembe
46 Zkpilot: NZ used to operate a sightseeing flight from AKL-Antartica-AKL using DC-10-30's 1977-1979 This of course ended when one crashed in a whiteout into Mt
47 Lamedianaranja: AMS-SEA on MP's DC-10 once took us almost 13 hours, terribly long flight! Thankfully I spent many hours on the flightdeck taking pictures of Greenland
48 Eilennaei: It was actually not closed, but the proportion of the price of the ticket that the Soviets were demanding for overflying rights was deemed too high b
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