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Delta Pilots To Wrap Up Strike Authorization Vote  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3047 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3286 times:

Courtesy: Associated Press

Delta Pilots To Wrap Up Strike Authorization Vote

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060403/delta.html?.v=2


Courtesy: Atlanta Business Chronicle

Delta Pilot Strike Vote Results Due Tuesday

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2006/04/03/daily12.html

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User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

What are they authorizing, putting 50000+ other Delta emp out of work?

User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3047 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Quoting Papatango (Reply 1):
What are they authorizing

Courtesy: WCPO-TV

Delta Pilots To Hold Another Informational Picket

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2006/local/04/03/delta.html


User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Still does not justify ALPA putting 50000+ out of work!

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3206 times:
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Quoting Papatango (Reply 3):
Still does not justify ALPA putting 50000+ out of work!

If management offered pilots a new pay rate of $10/day, and then the pilots went on strike and "put 50000+ people out of work", who would you blame then?




2H4





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User currently offlineH53Epilot From Israel, joined Mar 2004, 177 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 4):
If management offered pilots a new pay rate of $10/day, and then the pilots went on strike and "put 50000+ people out of work", who would you blame then?

Let's be realistic. They will be averaging about $300 per day for the entire year in which they will work 200 days and have 165 off. That's after the pay reduction. Pretty good work if you can get it. Am I missing something?


User currently offlineGoBoeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2679 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

Quoting H53Epilot (Reply 5):
Let's be realistic. They will be averaging about $300 per day for the entire year in which they will work 200 days and have 165 off. That's after the pay reduction. Pretty good work if you can get it. Am I missing something?

You're not missing a damned thing.

Except a reasonable attitude towards people that make more money than you do, apparently.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3164 times:
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Right...the point I'm making is that the line separating "realistic" from "unrealistic" is subjective, and not for any of us to decide.  Wink




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User currently offlineGoBoeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2679 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 7):

Right...the point I'm making is that the line separating "realistic" from "unrealistic" is subjective, and not for any of us to decide.

The other thread than ran off the bottom of the page yesterday was over 100 posts long and these people still didn't get the fact that the pilots or the management will settle this, but they still continue to spew BS about how there are 50,000 employes, blah blah blah.

Well guess what: 10% of those employees have been abused and they've had enough. The other groups should create a union so they can stand up to management as well.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3144 times:
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Quoting GoBoeing (Reply 8):
Well guess what: 10% of those employees have been abused and they've had enough.

They've sure as hell got my support...




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User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

With all due respect, Delta ALPA has done its share of abusing. In this dispute, neither side has a monopoly on moral correctness.


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User currently offlinePGV From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

Quoting DeltaSFO (Reply 10):
With all due respect, Delta ALPA has done its share of abusing. In this dispute, neither side has a monopoly on moral correctness

Well...I'll give you credit...you beat me to saying it! The shit-slinging and threats has been going on over there for quite a while.



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User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

Quoting PGV (Reply 11):
Quoting DeltaSFO (Reply 10):
With all due respect, Delta ALPA has done its share of abusing. In this dispute, neither side has a monopoly on moral correctness

Well...I'll give you credit...you beat me to saying it! The shit-slinging and threats has been going on over there for quite a while.

It is amazing that you have two airlines, NW and DL, who entered bankruptcy on the same day. Both of the airline's respective ALPA chapters are facing similar struggles with their repsective management. Yet only NW ALPA has made any progress, while DALPA continues with the mud-slinging, despite being told by the arbitration board to rachet down the publicity. Really paints a contrarian picture of the level of maturity between two different chapters of ALPA.



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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

So what exactly is the general consensus on the issue? Does anyone at DL have any idea as to whether or not the pilots will vote for a strike?

User currently offlineB777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

Well, I say by April 20th we will all know the outcome. If DL pilots do go on strike, I and many others will be re-booking as fast as I can dial my phone on other airlines. Its pretty much granted by both sides that a strike will spell the end of Delta. I wonder how long it will take to get my money back on my tickets I purchased in advance if they liquidate?

User currently offlineH53Epilot From Israel, joined Mar 2004, 177 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Quoting DeltaSFO (Reply 10):
With all due respect, Delta ALPA has done its share of abusing. In this dispute, neither side has a monopoly on moral correctness.

Bingo-It's a 2-way street. The market will bear what the market will bear. No reason to be emotional about it. The pilot's will either take what management gives them, not what they think they deserve, or they don't, they strike and they'll be unemployed. No skin off management's nose as most will easily find similar paying jobs. Now that's called leverage. Don't get mad at the messenger.


User currently offlineF86sabre From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

I don’t envy the pilots their decision in this. It is important to make sure you are not walked on, but where do you draw the line? Is $100000 ok when you’ve been making $120000? How about $80000 or $70000? The median US family income for 2002-2003 was $43318, http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...archives/income_wealth/002484.html, so people can get along with less. When is too much too much? How do you vote for a strike when you know you are basically putting yourself out of a job? The airline business is in bad shape, so where do you go to get a similar paying job? I know a lot of the guys have engineering degrees, but most haven’t used them and they aren’t going to find a job that pays any more than $60000-$70000. Management has to know that they can only push so hard or they will force a strike. Hopefully people on both sides of the equation work things out.

Best wishes,
F86sabre


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