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RFD Traffic Up 7.2 %  
User currently offlineNopeotone From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 158 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2207 times:

According to the Rockford Register Star, RFD's traffic was up 7.2% in the first quarter. Mainly due to the added frequency with Allegiant, but that's still a great sign.

http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...e?AID=/20060404/BUSINESS/104040036

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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

I am not sure it is such a great sign. RFD has gained Allegiant which seems to be a healthy little airline wtih growth opportunities, but it also lost Hooters. Hooters was a risky airline to begin with.

I expect growth to continue into the next quarter with UA's flights to DEN. Rockford lost Northwest, but replaced it with United, so that is about an even trade. Hooters and Transmeridian are gone, but have been replaced on some of the same routes with Allegiant.

Overall I think it is a draw. The only thing that RFD can't sustain is more airline turnover. Airlines succeeding and failing isn't really good for an airport. The only reliable air carrier at the airport seems to be UPS.



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User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2176 times:

how is that UAL service doing?


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User currently offlineLHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

The UA service has been doing very very well in terms of loads. I have no idea how the yields are, but every time I check the flights they are at least 80% booked and many times overbooked in both directions. I wouldn't be surprised if they added more frequency or decided to add some mainline service to DEN. I wonder if IAD would be a possibility.

[Edited 2006-04-05 04:54:10]

User currently offlineNopeotone From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

UA service is doing great. IT is far above UA's expectations. It would be great to see another flight or even explus. I'm not sure how IAD would do though. I don't see it as doing well as DEN, but that is just my opinion. It would be great if UA added IAD though.

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Quoting Nopeotone (Reply 4):
It would be great to see another flight or even explus.

I'd love to see a CR7 or E170 on the route. I am tempted to fly the route and am sure I will over the coming months, but I can't say that I am eager to get on a CRJ. Economy plus and first class definitely make regional jets so much nicer.



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User currently offlineNopeotone From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

I agree with you RoseFlyer. E+ would make that flight much more enjoyable, even it is on a CR7. I doubt they would put the route on the E170, but that would be great if so. I'm flying it in a couple of weeks and I have many friends who have already flown it and enjoyed it. Small aircraft, but they get their miles and drive 10 mins to get to their flight.

User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

Well maybe something to LAX would help with the west coast connections.

Still would love to see them do something in to Florida.



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User currently offlineNopeotone From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

Well they use DEN for the west coast connections. They are looking for east coast connections now. And they would love to see something happen with Florida too. Allegiant said they are very, very happy with the service at Rockford, and are in talks with expanding it. United's flighs were 89 percent full outbound in March and are already 80 percent full in April.

Source: http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...20060405/BUSINESS04/104050010/1002

Let's hope something happens soon.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Quoting Nopeotone (Reply 8):
United's flighs were 89 percent full outbound in March and are already 80 percent full in April.

Wow that is impressive. It looks like United is doing a good job on the route. Their fares certainly seem more reasonable than Northwest. I looked at flying NW a few times, but they were always more expensive than going through ORD.



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User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2273 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

I always felt UA would have a better chance of succeeding in RFD versus NW since RFD is in UA's home base back yard. They can probably draw a number of loyal United flyers from the NW suburbs of Chicago who might find RFD more convenient to get too versus getting to ORD.

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2017 times:

What I think is more impressive is that RFD is the #3 station in the Allegiant network. FATFlyer or ATCRick....do you guys have the ranks of stations for Allegiant? RFD guys must be doing something right to get the butts in the seats.

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 10):
I always felt UA would have a better chance of succeeding in RFD versus NW since RFD is in UA's home base back yard. They can probably draw a number of loyal United flyers from the NW suburbs of Chicago who might find RFD more convenient to get too versus getting to ORD.

I think the presence of ORD and frequent flyers will help RFD. However one thing people often forget is that the population of Rockford and its surrounding suburbs (Belvidere, Loves Park, Cherry Valley) is over 200,000. That is certainly a decent sized population to support flights on its own. RFD wants to market itself as a Chicago alternative, but it is a decent sized city in its own right and is the second largest metro area in Illinois. Yet cities like Bloomington, Quad Cities and Champaign/Urbana have been more successful at getting air service since they are farther from ORD. But the drive on a busy afternoon can take over two hours to get from Rockford to ORD.



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User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 11):

Where do you get your info from?



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User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

It was from the second article:

"The gains came largely from Allegiant’s increasingly busy service, which grew from 8,958 in January to 12,278 in March. According to the Las Vegas-based airline, the Rockford airport was the company’s third-busiest in March among the 40 it flies from, including those in cities such as Cleveland; Des Moines, Iowa; Fargo, N.D.; Green Bay, Wis.; and St. Louis. Rockford trailed only Allegiant’s destination airports of Las Vegas and Sanford, Fla., outside Orlando"

I still think they meant to say Toledo, instead of Cleveland  Wink


User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 14):

and how about bellville instead of St. Louis



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User currently offlineNopeotone From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

Yeah bellville, but the airport is called St Louis Mid-America. So calling it St. Louis in the article isnt entirely wrong as Toledo vs Cleveland.

User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1992 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

WOW! 7.2 percent. And that would be what, 7.2 increase from what number daily, 200, or maybe 300. If that is the case, Rockford generated another 15 or 20 passengers a day. That is remarkable.

User currently offlineFlypeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 12):
However one thing people often forget is that the population of Rockford and its surrounding suburbs (Belvidere, Loves Park, Cherry Valley) is over 200,000.

From Wikipedia: "...Rockford is classified as a mid-sized city as it has 150,115 residents, while the metro area has 320,204 residents (2000 Census)."  Smile

Rockford may gain another carrier soon. www.festivalairlines.com


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5791 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 11):
do you guys have the ranks of stations for Allegiant?

I don't. It would take me a while to assemble the numbers and rank them since I'm outside. Given how fast G4 keeps changing and growing it would outdated before I was done.  Wink



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4368 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1806 times:
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Quoting Nopeotone (Reply 16):
Yeah bellville, but the airport is called St Louis Mid-America. So calling it St. Louis in the article isnt entirely wrong as Toledo vs Cleveland.

And the airport isn't even that close to Belleville, it's in Mascoutah.



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User currently offlineMikefad From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

HEY Maybe UA will serve Peotone & RFD with flights between them exclusively!
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