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JAT Finally In YYZ And JFK  
User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4430 times:

the governments of Canada and Serbia-Montenegro have signed an agreement on opening Toronto-Belgrade commercial flights. JAT is planning to re-start service between Toronto and Belgrade on June 1st after several years absence. The airline is acquiring two Boeing 767-200s on lease and also plans to start a Belgrade-New York-JFK service in May.

Source : YYZnews.com

It is to note that these flights are not shown on Amadeus yet .


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4418 times:

Been discussed already;

767-200 JAT Is Arriving (by FCKC Mar 12 2006 in Civil Aviation)#ID2653430



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Quoting MSYYZ (Thread starter):

Great news bouncy  Now, I can hardly wait to see that 762 from my window.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 1):
Been discussed already

Yes, but things were not certain as they are now.



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4186 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 2):
Yes, but things were not certain as they are now.

Yes! Looks like the rumors are now facts! Good to see progress at JAT.

Any idea when the first 762ER (YU-JAT) will be arriving from the paint shop?



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4023 times:

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 3):
Any idea when the first 762ER (YU-JAT) will be arriving from the paint shop?

I've read she would arrive by the end of March and now is April  confused  . Oh, BTW, what is YU-JAT? Can't be a new registration.



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 4):
Oh, BTW, what is YU-JAT? Can't be a new registration.

Apparently it is!  boggled 

I heard its mid-April; it only went to the paint shop recently and is also having one of the major checks done.



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 5):

Thanks. Registration is...interesting. Now, if someone from Nimes could make a photo  sigh 



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User currently offlinePanAm92 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3700 times:
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It will be great seeing JAT in New York again.

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

Great news! I'm just sad about the new livery JAT has adopted now, I wish they would keep the livery they they before this one, the white fuselage with the red/blue tail and silver titling on the fuselage. The DC-10 they had in this livery looked awesome!

Regards,

A388


User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3554 times:

Nothing is official yet! Permission has not been granted as of yet by the CTA for JAT to start operations into YYZ and JAT themselves have not confirmed that YYZ is a go. On there website they state it is planed. Flights havent been loaded into Corda as of yet so my money is that JU will not be in Toronto this summer. We have seen this from JAT before.

User currently offlineBEG2IAH From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 949 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3551 times:
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Quoting RicardoFG (Reply 9):
We have seen this from JAT before.

I would rather say "We have seen this from Canada (CTA) and the United States (FAA) before."

BEG2IAH



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User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Quoting BEG2IAH (Reply 10):
I would rather say "We have seen this from Canada (CTA) and the United States (FAA) before."

Agreed, I believe that there are some immigration concerns with JAT's planned flight to YYZ in regards to not meeting some VISA requirements. If it actually happens it will be very strict inspected by Immigration /Customs Canada.

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 11):
I believe that there are some immigration concerns with JAT's planned flight to YYZ

You're right, but, Serbia and Montenegro signed a re-admission agreement with Canada that solved the problem.

What really makes me wonder how was it possible for Uzbekistan AW to fly to JFK from BEG without such problems.



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3263 times:

OK, there are some news regarding JAT flights to North america. According to a local newspaper (Glas Javnosti) JAT won't be able to start its service to JFK as planned, because they still didn't get Category 1 from FAA, but it seems that flights to Toronto will start by June.


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User currently offlineMajorNelson From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3139 times:

Aleksandar: I remember reading and enjoying your Trip Report a while ago regarding your first flight as a F/A with JAT, but that you had been laid off.

Surely the arrival of the 767 and new routes should be a good sign ! Have you been recalled to your position yet?

Tony


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 14):
Aleksandar: I remember reading and enjoying your Trip Report a while ago regarding your first flight as a F/A with JAT, but that you had been laid off.

I'm afraid it's not me. I never worked in JAT. The guy who wrote that Trip Report is Stjuard.



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User currently offlineJU101 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 832 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2918 times:

I question the accuracy of the YYZ-based article referenced in this thread.

(1) Jat Airways should be receiving one 762, rather than two. There is no confirmation that the airline will acquire the plane. In my mind, if the rumored flights to Toronto were to start June 2006, the plane would unlikely join the fleet before May 2006. It is true that Serbia-Montenegro and Canada have signed an agreement a few weeks ago, directly effecting to the outcome of Jat Airways flights to Toronto. This year things look very positive, and there should be no reason for Jat not to fly to Toronto. Recall that SkyService has maintained direct flights to Belgrade last summer, and they intend to do the same again this year!

(2) Regarding flights to JFK, Serbian new sources have indicated that Serbia-Montenegro will not recieve FAA Catergory 1 in time for the commencement of peak season travel. Consequently, Serbia-Montenegro registered aircraft will not be welcome to the United States prior to attaining the Category 1 status. Direct flights may be established between BEG and JFK, as before, through a seconday carrier. This is clearly an issue of politics, as it always was.

(3) If and when Jat Airways receives Category 1 from the FAA, the airline will consider adding a second aircraft in 2007. The added capacity for Jat will coincide with the desire to establish flights to Chicago. Unfortunately, Montreal has not been in discussion.

I hope this clarifies things, a bit!


User currently offlineBEG2IAH From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 949 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2786 times:
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Hi guys. I just read something in Serbian's "Glas Javnosti" daily newspaper.

Source (in Serbian only): http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/danas/srpski/D06040910.shtml

This source soon to be: http://arhiva.glas-javnosti.co.yu/ar.../2006/04/09/srpski/D06040910.shtml

This would be my condensed translation:

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Deputy director general of the Serbia and Montenegro Civil Aviation Directorate Mr. Dragan Trgovcevic said that his Directorate fulfilled all the prerequisites needed to obtain FAA's Category 1. He said: "Directorate had several audits since 2003, and we as a country are ready for Category 1. We cannot influence the timing of their audits. ICAO also audited and examined our Directorate, and they claim that we are one of the best countries they examined in the last few years, because we apply 97.7% of international regulations".

Mr. Trgovcevic emphasized that, from what he knows, FAA will not audit Directorate before the end of this summer.

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FAA's audits are unannounced, but I would expect the next audit and possible positive decision after two important events take place, both having nothing to do with aviation: independence referendum in Montenegro and arrest and transfer of gen. Mladic to the Hague.

BEG2IAH



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User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

Quoting JU101 (Reply 16):
Recall that SkyService has maintained direct flights to Belgrade last summer, and they intend to do the same again this year!

Skyservice has discontinued BEG service.


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

Quoting RicardoFG (Reply 18):
Skyservice has discontinued BEG service.

Correction, Skyservice only operates charters during summer months and will be runnning them again this year.



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User currently offlineJU101 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 832 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

Ricardo,

Belgrade is included on the list of destinations for Summer 2006 according to the SkyService web site.

www.skyservice.ca


User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 19):
Correction, Skyservice only operates charters during summer months and will be runnning them again this year.



Quoting JU101 (Reply 20):
Belgrade is included on the list of destinations for Summer 2006 according to the SkyService web site.

No, I am sorry but the flights are NOT happening this year. The tour operator has decided not to continue with the program this year after losing a lot of money over the years. There is no eastern europe program. This is as per all the suits at 5G, and the tour operator.


User currently offlineJU101 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 832 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

I regret to hear that.

I wonder what kind of figures were recorded on the flights to Belgrade, Zagreb, and Split.


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