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2 747-400s For Ethiopian  
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13219 times:

Ethiopian will receive this Summer 2 747-400s , coming from Malaysia.
They will be leased for 5 years , till the arrival of the 787s.
Source : speednews

Highly sad , ET has changed their cs.Imagine a 747 painted in the so wonderful old ET cs !!!! A dream !!!!!Probably it should have been the most beautiful looking 747 , with the not taken up Libyans.

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User currently offlineJayce From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13151 times:

Here's what it will look like, courtesy of the Modified Airliner Photos website:

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And here's what it would have looked like in the old colours:

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I have to agree, the old colours would have been beautiful.



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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1569 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13129 times:

The old colours would have been absolutely gorgeous.........

Any ideas on the routes?



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12840 times:

Happy to see the first two people having answered , agree the old cs were stunning.
Probably the routes will be to the USA and Asia.Sorry not to be more precise !!!!!!!!


User currently offlineLouA340 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12667 times:

Do you think the much rumoured ADD-ACC-USA flight will be introduced with it?


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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4217 posts, RR: 89
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12568 times:
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Thanks FCKC very interesting that they take 2 x 744 as an interim measure until the arrival of the 787s.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12464 times:

Quoting LouA340 (Reply 4):
Do you think the much rumoured ADD-ACC-USA flight will be introduced with it?

Most likely to be deployed on LOS/BKK/China routes, as ET needs additional freight capacity on these. This one has been rumoured for a while now, and indicated ex-MH 744-combis as being what ET was after.

Yay for ET!


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12350 times:

There are no MH 744 combis in its current fleet. They got rid of them in the early-2000s. The two aircraft in question have been sitting in MZJ for a few years.

Still I am surprised at this decision.


User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12326 times:

Did anyone mention they are combis.... dont think so.

I assume they are getting two of the current fleet that MH is returning.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9999 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12236 times:

Nice news! And we will soon have a new (temporary) 744 operator in Africa, nice  Smile

I am surprised ET is taking the 744 as a temporary solution for their newly ordered 787, isn't that a bit too much of a capacity increase coming from only two aircraft? Isn't it difficult to plan two aircraft which will later be replaced by five aircraft (5 787s)?

In any way, I am glad to see the 744 wearing another airline livery and good luck to ET of course  Smile

A388


User currently offlineFlyer88 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 85 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 12080 times:

This is awesome news for ET.....I have been reading their reviews from passengers and must say that they truly are an emerging star...wish them all the best

User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4847 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11982 times:

Will ET be convering these B 744s of MAS into Combis or will they use them as an all pax version aircraft?

They would make more money of them if flying in a Combi version...its worth the initial investment in converting it into one as it will come in handy on the FRA, China, BKK, DXB, LOS, JNB and LHR route.


User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11185 times:

what ever happened to the talks of a YYZ route starting?

User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4778 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11127 times:

You are so right, another boring paint job, their old scheme would have been magnificent!


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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11007 times:

Quoting RicardoFG (Reply 12):
what ever happened to the talks of a YYZ route starting?

Here we are!!!! ADD-YYZ not with 744, but A380. Yes, this thread going on about YYZ getting ready for the Whale in Jan 2007, and people wondering who will fly the Whale into YYZ...



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User currently offlineETFokker50 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10819 times:

Wow, I never expected that. Being a long time Ethiopian fan (just look at my username), this is great news, almost better than them getting their 5 787s. I think they need the capactity, their current 757 and 767 isn't quite big enough probably, especially for Cargo. In ADD their working on a cargo terminal, so I wouldn't be suprised if cargo played a big role in the decision. Maybe we'll see a 747 is AMS with flowers (jk).

User currently offlineFlyer88 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 85 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10765 times:

So whats the numbers now in terms of their fleet. Must be bigger than Kenyan Airways. The only ones that I can think of that would be bigger would South African and Egypt Air

User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10570 times:

This is fantastic news. nice lievery as well. hope they will start the 'planned' US service via ACC


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10350 times:

Quoting FCKC (Thread starter):
Ethiopian will receive this Summer 2 747-400s , coming from Malaysia.
They will be leased for 5 years , till the arrival of the 787s.

Why lease 744's and not 767-300 ERs...after all the seem to correspond more to the size of their future 787



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10816 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10266 times:

Surprise, surprise. Who have Ethiopian on their list? Seems strange that they´ll go for jumbos while waiting for the much smaller 787. But who knows, if they have routes that can fill 747s and that really make money, then maybe in the future they even go for a few 747-8Is, especially as technically seen they would go very well along with the 787.

I agree that with the bulk of the 747 in mind the old livery would have been nicer to look at.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10816 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10242 times:

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 7):
There are no MH 744 combis in its current fleet. They got rid of them in the early-2000s. The two aircraft in question have been sitting in MZJ for a few years.

Yes, they were parked in 1/2003, but they were sold just very recently, in the last 2 or 3 weeks. I only don´t have in my mind right now to whom.


User currently offlineDkny From Ethiopia, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10026 times:

Wonderful news.

I heard the same rumors a couple of weeks ago from an ET employee. I am almost sure it's for the ADD-ACC-USA route.

WHat is the layout of the MH 744. Do they have PTV and in which classes.

Anyway great news.


User currently offlinePlanemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10004 times:

Quoting Dkny (Reply 21):

PTV's in all classes of MH's 744's with a 34" seat pitch in economy! Go Ethipoian, I have to say I did not see this one coming. What long-haul routes do they currently fly?


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5723 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9946 times:

This is AWESOME news for ET. I can't wait to get back on them!


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User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1092 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9855 times:

Interesting they took 744's...

I doubt they would have taken 767's but I could have maybe seen a T7 in their somewhere ?

Are leased/used 777's hard to come by ? I think ET are on the road to great things....


25 Post contains links Dkny : Here you go guys. I did my little search and these are the 2 planes coming from Boeing. They are owned by Boeing MSN 24315 and 24405 http://www.aerotr
26 Blsbls99 : Or are these owned by Wells Fargo Bank?
27 757ops : I can confirm that the 747's will be used initally on the ADD-LOS and ADD-DXB sectors, two of our busiest routes and especially on the ADD-DXB route i
28 Ethiopian787 : 763s are hard to come by these days and if they are available out there their average monthly lease rate is around USD 550,000.00 according to Airlin
29 LPLAspotter : I remember flying them back in 1974 aboard 720's & 707s and marvelling at the collor scheme. If they could just bring it back for the 744s they would
30 Kiwiandrew : wondered if the comment "ermerging star" could be prophetic ... ET did say a few months ago that they were potentially interested in Star and they se
31 MotorHussy : Yep, would have looked much better with the Lion of Judah! on the c/s. Shame about the lack of black detail around the red, gold and green on the tail
32 Ethiopian787 : Please forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between a Combi and a non-Combi config? Is it like the Quck Change (QC) config? Cheers!
33 MotorHussy : Combi in a 744 is where the last third (usually) of the main passenger deck of the plane is used for freight. This is accessed via a large rear freigh
34 Ethiopian787 : Thanks for the clarification MotorHussy. Cheers!
35 Stirling : They still would have a lot excess capacity. ADD-DXB is about 3:45 / Currently departs ADD late afternoon. ADD-LOS is about 5:30 / Currently departs
36 TUGMASTER : Have looked at the schedules for june, and according to SABRE, ADD-DXB-DXB is a ET 747. rgds T
37 787KQ : KQ: 777, 3; 767, 6; 737, 11; Saab 340, 2. 20 Jets, 2 Prop. ET: 747, 2; 767, 6; 757, 4; 737, 5; Fokker 50, 5; Twin Ott, 2. 17 Jets (with 747 included)
38 ETFokker50 : I realize this is off topic, but what happened to Ethiopian's other four Twin Otters. A few months ago they were availible for purchase / lease. They
39 ETA Unknown : Combis are allowed into the US- their rumored ban is a result of someone misinterpreting FAA requirements. You can see combi configured 747's every da
40 Tockeyhockey : I'm surprised that we're not hearing of more new 744 orders from airlines like ET and KQ, or other airlines for which a new 744 would be a very nice u
41 Post contains images YYZYYT : Great to see a new operator for the 747 - even if it is white colour scheme. Hey, maby Ethiopian is the mystery lunch customer for the new 747 passeng
42 Tundra767 : Ooh those planes are sexy...
43 Post contains images Stirling : So they takeoff from DXB, circle, then land again? (I assume you meant ADD-DXB-ADD?) Seriously, when does this start in June? When do they actually t
44 787KQ : In general, too much capacity and lack of commonality with other types in already small fleets. It is better to have more of the same aircraft, even
45 JAGflyer : No A380 to YYZ from ET. No way will they fill it. No FRIGGIN' way!
46 ETStar : I think the 744s are still too big for these two carriers. They are barely operating dailies on some routes. What they need is more range in the 763-
47 Post contains links and images ETStar : Also, one of ET's 757s is finally going in for conversion on May 7th in Everett WA. It is said to be the aircraft below. Also, the new cargo terminal
48 TinkerBelle : Great for ET. Now I'll think about flying them again soon.
49 AF022 : Arne't those 747-400s kind of old? Do they really have IFE and good seating? How about business class? I think ET's current business class is lousy.
50 GARUDAROD : Those two aircraft ARE combis, thats what the SCD designation is for. They have been parked for several years, and note that the cycles are only aroun
51 ZK-NBT : As GARUDAROD said above these aircraft have been parked for several years so cycles aren't that high. I'm pretty sure that they don't have PTV's in Y
52 Dkny : Correction on ET fleet 747-400 2 767-7 (6-300ER & 1-200ER) 757-200 6 excluding the 200F 737-6 (5-700 & 1-200) F50-5 21 jets and 5 props when the 747s
53 Airbuseric : Will ET maybe operate the 744 on the ADD-AMS flights? It's a mix of 757/767's in the past on this route, and ET also operated their B757F to AMS, mai
54 ETStar : Hello folks, Don't know if anyone has noticed this, but ET is flirting with the idea of making its IAD flights jive with the rest of the airline's sch
55 AF022 : The morning departure seems to be loaded already.
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