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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4640 times:

Hi everyone;

In the same light as the SLC Spotters thread, I've decided on starting a thread about spotting in ATH. Speaking of which, where are some good spots to spot at landside?


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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

Hey WesternA318,

Well my uncles house for one is great  Wink It lies exactly underneath the 03R approach about 9 miles out and you get good views of on arrivals on 03L. A bit closer to the airport you've got the area where IKEA is which is great for watching arrivals on 03L although if you want to take photos you'll need a good zoom (whilst keeping an eye for the police Big grin ). There's something called SkyView which I've always meant to go into and see if it's any good but never had the chance to. It's like a cafe/bar type place where you can watch the airport and have a bite at the same time although since it's in the same area as IKEA it will only offer views over 03L again. As for 03R I'm not too sure but there are some parking areas before the cargo terminals which might be for staff only but if not then there would be a perfect place. If landing/departing runway is 03R/L (which tends to be most of the time) then best time to go would be early morning to mid afternoon as it can get quite hot and the sun may start to get in the way for photos after that. Talking of ATH I remember the old airport was great for spotting. There was loads of places. Many I time I used to sit at the threshold of 33R and the planes would just fly right over you like in this photo


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There used to be a coffee shop that had a great view too overlooking the GA parking and 33R. My old school used to run parallel to the runway too so I always had great view from the top of our buildings. Never wanted to go to classes!

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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4606 times:

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
There's something called SkyView which I've always meant to go into and see if it's any good but never had the chance to. It's like a cafe/bar type place where you can watch the airport and have a bite at the same time although since it's in the same area as IKEA it will only offer views over 03L again.

I'll be back in December, and hopefully I can stop by SkyView. I'm wondering what the rush hours are at ATH too?



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
Well my uncles house for one is great

Send our regards to your uncle. Just post his address and a two dozen of A.netters will come to visit him. biggrin 

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
There's something called SkyView which I've always meant to go into and see if it's any good but never had the chance to

That place sounds interesting. Is there any website of that place. I also heard about good views from McDonald's at the airport.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
Talking of ATH I remember the old airport was great for spotting.

Oh, every time somebody mentions good old Helliniko I feel like  cry  . How great it was to be able to swim, watch planes, listen to planes or go to Emmantina and take photos of them.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4600 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 3):
or go to Emmantina and take photos of them.

Ohh man, first time I EVER took pics outside of the US of airplanes was from there. The list goes:

* TWA 747-100/SP/767-200/L-1011
* Olympic 707/727/737/747/A300
* Apollo A300
* Delta 727-200/767-300ER/A310
* Pan Am 727-200

Have to dig the books out for those!



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 4):
Ohh man, first time I EVER took pics outside of the US of airplanes was from there

I was once in a hotel just accross the street from Emmantina (closer to the beach) and all the pics I've made in 1990 were made from my balcony. Athough the quality is not good enough even for MyAviation, here are some goodies:

Saudia 737-200
Lauda 737-400
Swissair MD-81
Austrian MD-80
Lufthansa 727-200
Britannia 767-200
and the list goes on and on....

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 4):
TWA 747-100/SP/767-200/L-1011

I remember TWA 747 landing. I was directly beneath it. Woow. Also, I remember lots of Tower Air 747s.

Also, there was an interesting landing of Thai DC-10 which was aborted twice. The plane landed on her third attempt. I still wonder what were the reasons for that.

As for A300, back in 1990 OA operated both B$ and 600R and the difference in sound was obvious. The first plane I saw in Glyfada was PIA A300 take-off.

Well, I could talk about my two visits there in 1990 and 1994 for days....



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 3):
Send our regards to your uncle. Just post his address and a two dozen of A.netters will come to visit him.

Hehe - he thinks it's bad enough when I come over and set myself up on the veranda with binocs, scanner and a few souvlakia!  Wink

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 3):
That place sounds interesting. Is there any website of that place. I also heard about good views from McDonald's at the airport.

There's a brief mention of it on the Athens Airport website -

http://www.aia.gr/EN/passenger_infor...tion/dining/dining_areas/body.shtm

McDonalds isn't great for viewing although it is advertised in the airport as a viewing gallery. Photos from there are rubbish cause there's too much reflection from the restaurant windows and it only runs for about 2/3 stands. Here's a photo I took from McDonalds last year -

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Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 3):
Oh, every time somebody mentions good old Helliniko I feel like . How great it was to be able to swim, watch planes, listen to planes or go to Emmantina and take photos of them.

Alexsandar I'm so pleased you feel that way. I thought I was the only one! Was great sitting watching the Olympic Dorniers and ATRs coming in from the islands doing a really tight left base for 33R. I too remember the Tower Air 747's and the Austrian MD80s. Do you remember Air Greece with the Fokker 100's and ATRs and Cronus and Axon? Watching the OA 747's taking off from 33R and making an immediate left turn to avoid the city was something else to see if you were in Alimos! And of course the good old OA 727's. What a racket they made! Remember seeing them all lined up in the morning ready to head out to Europe. Really great memories!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 5):
Well, I could talk about my two visits there in 1990 and 1994 for days....

Yes please..........I've got more than a few memories to share too!

Nick



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 5):
Britannia 767-200

 drool  I miss those. Beautiful airplanes, beautiful airline, and, Beautiful F/A's. Continued my membership in the mile High Club on a Brittannia 762 from Faro with the head F/A back in 95/96?

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 5):
Also, I remember lots of Tower Air 747s.

I know I keep mentioning them in other threads, but I bet most if not all of those 747's were for Homeric Tours charters. Can't WAIT till they get their own A330-200's.



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Here's a photo I managed to find of the Skyview cafe. From what I can see it overlooks 03L/21R which runs exactly left to right in the photo.



Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 2):
I'm wondering what the rush hours are at ATH too?

A lot of the traffic is scattered throughout the day. Early morning from about 0500-0800 sees a lot of departures mainly domestic OA and A3 returning a few hours later and a number of European carriers. Most of the long haul arrivals are from about 0600-1100 including SQ, DL, TG and the OA 340s from JFK etc. Majority of them leave again between 1200-1600. 1200-1400 is a busy period for arrivals again, this time mostly European including OS, AF, LH, LX, KL, U2 and AZ all arriving within an hour with some other traffic like EK, GF and QR. Early evening tends to pick up again from about 1700 and then last thing at night is very busy for arrivals from 2000 to well after midnight for some European arrivals like BA, LH and OK. Wish I was going soon again!

Nick

P.S - New carriers at ATH this year will be Flyglobespan and Blue 1 as well as PIA relaunching flights to Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad and Air Transat now operating scheduled flights to Montreal/Toronto.

[Edited 2006-04-06 02:57:07]


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4569 times:

Nick,

Whens your next time headed out? Hopefully, like I posted above, I'll be out there in December. Maybe I'll bring a few other spotters from here in SLC.



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4564 times:

Western,

Prob not during summer possibly November or December if I can get the time off work. How you coming? DL via JFK?

Nick



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4555 times:

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
a few souvlakia!

Now I really miss Greece cry 

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
Alexsandar I'm so pleased you feel that way.

Those were some of the best moments of my life and I'm not exaggarating.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
I thought I was the only one!

It's the feeling I had in Athens. Not many people cared a bit about planes. They were just angry because they couldn't sleep. But, who needs sleep in Athens anyway? biggrin 

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
Was great sitting watching the Olympic Dorniers and ATRs

Oh yes, they looked cute in the late afternoon.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
And of course the good old OA 727's.

Here's another story from me. In 1994, on my second visit to Athens, my hotel wasn't in Glyfada, but in Omonia. So, I had to use bus to go to Glyfada and the line was really strange going all over the place, the route was too long and I was still feeling dizzy after a 36 hours drive on a bus from Belgrade. Now, in that public bus I felt quite disoriented and some Swedish tourists showed me where to get out. I still didn't recognize the place and all of the sudden a 727 was landing. At that point, I knew exactly where I was.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 8):
Here's a photo I managed to find of the Skyview cafe.

Thanks. It may not be the best for taking photos, but it is good for ordinary spotting and enjoying. Not bad at all.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 8):
PIA relaunching flights to Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad

I didn't know they discountinued ATH. I've seen then both in 1990 and 1994 with A300s and A310-300s respectively.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 8):
Air Transat now operating scheduled flights to Montreal/Toronto.

Back in 1990, Air Canada used to fly to ATH with 762.



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
Now I really miss Greece



Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
Those were some of the best moments of my life and I'm not exaggarating.

I know. I feel exactly the same. Had the most memorable and unforgettable experiences of my life in Greece and am so proud to be Greek.  praise 

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
It's the feeling I had in Athens. Not many people cared a bit about planes. They were just angry because they couldn't sleep. But, who needs sleep in Athens anyway?

Yeah do you remember. Elliniko was like a hostel. I remember vividly tourists with sleeping bags, suitcases and all their possesions just camped in and outside the airport. You couldn't move for stepping on them. And of course the police in their mini tanks and their big guns, even then back in the early 90's. Some of my best memories of ATH was waiting to go into Computing lessons at school and our classroom was right on the top of the building overlooking the airport and I remember waiting outside the classroom to go in and looking over at the TWA and Tower Air 747s in amazement.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
Here's another story from me. In 1994, on my second visit to Athens, my hotel wasn't in Glyfada, but in Omonia. So, I had to use bus to go to Glyfada and the line was really strange going all over the place, the route was too long and I was still feeling dizzy after a 36 hours drive on a bus from Belgrade. Now, in that public bus I felt quite disoriented and some Swedish tourists showed me where to get out. I still didn't recognize the place and all of the sudden a 727 was landing. At that point, I knew exactly where I was.

What a great story! You can always rely on the good old 727s to show you the way! I actually flew on a 727 from ATH to LGW but it was operated by Sterling.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
I didn't know they discountinued ATH. I've seen then both in 1990 and 1994 with A300s and A310-300s respectively.

They stopped for a season or two if I'm correct. They still used the A310 then and believe the routes are still scheduled for an A310 this summer.

Nick



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4541 times:

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 10):
Prob not during summer possibly November or December if I can get the time off work. How you coming? DL via JFK?

Oh hell no, lol, DL might not even be around by then anyways, lol. Nowadays I get to ATH by going SLC-IAH-EWR-FCO on Continental, then Aegean to ATH, and sometimes onto IOA (close to Trikala). I should be there, if I'm going, by December 17, staying until January 3/4.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
Oh yes, they looked cute in the late afternoon.

LOL, the Dorniers remind me of mechanical mosquitos, lol. In SLC, all I ever see here besides the myriad of CRJ's and occassional ERJ, is the EMB-120 Brasilia. FCO is interesting too, lol, but my Xmas trip I want to head back to ATH.



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 13):
Oh hell no, lol, DL might not even be around by then anyways, lol. Nowadays I get to ATH by going SLC-IAH-EWR-FCO on Continental, then Aegean to ATH, and sometimes onto IOA (close to Trikala). I should be there, if I'm going, by December 17, staying until January 3/4.

Yeah you could be right! LOL! Aegean are excellent to fly with! I was wanting to go over and have a Greek Christmas this year so fingers crossed I can get the time off work and go. You never know I might bump into you! Have you ever been to Preveza? It's not far from IOA and is beautiful! (as is all of Greece of course)

Nick



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User currently offlineOlympic707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 266 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4526 times:

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
Talking of ATH I remember the old airport was great for spotting. There was loads of places. Many I time I used to sit at the threshold of 33R and the planes would just fly right over you like in this photo

I do miss the old ATH Hellinikon airport.  Sad

Hellinikon also had an observation deck that was great for spotting, Hellinikon did not have jetways, the planes parked away from the terminal which gave you great sites.  airplane 

Does anyone know what is going to happen to hellinikon?

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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4526 times:

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 12):
am so proud to be Greek.

You have every reason to be proud. I love Greece very much and always felt nice there, especially in Athens.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 12):
Some of my best memories of ATH was waiting to go into Computing lessons at school and our classroom was right on the top of the building overlooking the airport

Was your school close to Domestic Terminal? I remember there was a bus stop there. This thread brought back some memories.

It was really nice to be on a public bus and coming to Glyfada. At one point, you could see two or three 727s parked and being prepared for their next flight and you could see that only for a few seconds, but I always tried to get the best out of those moments. Thanks to some photographers here, those memories are kept vivid in my mind:

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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 15):
Does anyone know what is going to happen to hellinikon?

Once I've heard that a part of the old Helliniko would be used for the Aviation Museum.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 15):
Hellinikon also had an observation deck that was great for spotting, Hellinikon did not have jetways, the planes parked away from the terminal which gave you great sites.

I have a terrific photo of an EFS/Air Bahamas DC-8-62 that my dad took WAY back in 1976. Also, anyone notice that beautiful MEA 720B holding short of the runway in the last 727 photo? Weren't those the days or what?



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4519 times:

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 15):
Does anyone know what is going to happen to hellinikon?

Yanni, I was there a few weeks ago and the old OA domestic terminal and Olympic Aviation hangar is still there although it's being used for exhibitions etc. Alongside that there are more buildings which were used for the Olympic Games. I think a basketball stadium was one. The international terminal on the east side is still there and whilst I was there there was a motorbike exhibition going on with a mini race track and big tent thing set up over the apron. The runway from 15L to about half way down has been dug up and I think they're going to make it into a park. The rest of the runway and international apron is used for cycling, driving classes (learning how to prevent skids etc) and model aircraft flying. Quite a shame from what it used to be. Here's a photo of some of the things that have been done to it -


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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 18):
anyone notice that beautiful MEA 720B holding short of the runway in the last 727 photo

 yes  There are three planes in that photo and all of them are history now. Olympic 727, MEA 720B and Austrian MD-80.

I was fortunate enough to see MEA 707 landing in ATH in 1990. She was still in the same livery as that 720B.



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User currently offlineGCDEG From Greece, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4513 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 16):
Was your school close to Domestic Terminal? I remember there was a bus stop there. This thread brought back some memories

Yeah it was just down from the Domestic Terminal on that side. I've got a Google Earth image of it -

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My school was just to the right of where it says Athinai Airport. I've been waiting for a thread like this to see if anyone else had the same kinds of memories or whether I was the only one!

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 18):
Weren't those the days or what?

You can say that again!

Nick



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4508 times:

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 21):
Yeah it was just down from the Domestic Terminal on that side

I had no idea that there was a school there. I remember that bus stop very well. It was probably third from my hotel in Glyfada.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

Well that settles it! How 'bout we set up a spotters meet for December as we get closer to it?

Speaking of good old days, my first flight to ATH was routed like this:

SLC-DEN 727-200
DEN-JFK L-1011-100
JFK-ATH 747-100 (N93119, the first of five trips she would fly to ATH with me aboard)

On the way back it was a bit more odd:

ATH-CDG 707-320
CDG-JFK 747SP
JFK-LAX 767-200
LAX-STL 747-100
STL-SLC MD-80

Ahh, what great memories! Well, in pictures anyways, lol!



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

Oh, I just remembered another interesting plane in Athens. It was Interflug A310-300 which was very new in 1990 (a year old, I guess). I still have negatives and I'll try to put it on CD and post it on MyAviation.net some day, although the quality is really bad (I used an old Russian camera).

I took a photo of it while the plane was landing, but this photo really brought back memories:

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25 Post contains images Aleksandar : It sounds great and I'd love to join you all, but it is too early for me to plan it and there is a good possibility that I won't make it anyway. But,
26 Post contains images WesternA318 : Isn't that the registration of the first A380? F-WWOW? Great photo of the A310 btw!
27 Aleksandar : Yes, it really is great. Pitty, I didn't make some pics as good as that one.
28 GCDEG : Yeah they moved the school about a year ago but the buildings still exist. Do you remember a DC3 of the HCAA parked in a military type enclosure. My
29 Post contains images WesternA318 : I've also taken a Swissair DC-10 from ZRH into ATH, but MAN, I can't wait until my next trip out! mmm..Kokoretsi....
30 Post contains images Olympic707 : Yasou Niko At least they are keeping the airport terminal buildings.   Where are they going to have the aviation museum? out in the open? I noticed
31 WesternA318 : Where is Aegean's Main Offices? And how can I get a good model of their new Airbus or 737's?
32 Aleksandar : I was there in the second half of July, but who knows. It is indeed a small world.
33 Aleksandar : I think I've seen some of the display models on sale on the Internet. BTW, OA office in Glyfada used to have a nice and really big model of 737-200.
34 WesternA318 : Hehe, i know the Forest Hills offices of OA have this HUGE PacMin A340 in the window...lol. But then again, I have a pacmin 1/75 scale A300-600 "Maced
35 GCDEG : Yiasou Yianni. Well I'm not sure if they are going to build a museum or not. I hope that they do. You're right though there are 3 OA planes left at L
36 WesternA318 : now THATS a museum! I hoep so, I know they sell models on their duty free flights, though. 737-300 and BAe146 models.
37 Post contains links Kaneporta1 : Back to the whole spotting deal, on the left of 21L there is a hill where the approach radar is installed, I think people can drive up there and have
38 Post contains images Alitalia744 : Ahhh Hellinikon! I miss it. What's even sadder is that my family has an apartment in Athens and a house in Loutsa and I haven't been to greece in 8 ye
39 Post contains images WesternA318 : Could you possibly provide us with directions there when you can? Hehe, I think I'll head on out with a big tray of Galaktoboureko... Well, its time
40 Post contains links Olympic707 : The OA 747 was sold to a scrapper, and bought back again for museum use http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=203687. That 747 does not have the
41 WesternA318 : Thanks for the info, Olympic707! I'd gladly plunk down some money to restore this museum-quality showcase quality. (Kinda like the Concorde at the Ud
42 Post contains images PRM : There's a view of the northern runway from the end of the pedestrian walkway pier to the long term car park: Cheers Paul
43 Post contains links and images Olympic707 : The OA 747 was sold to a scrapper, and bought back again for museum use http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=203687. That 747 does not have the
44 WesternA318 : Paul, Thanks for posting that BEAUTIFUL Armenian TU-154! Hehe, if I head on out this December, that's what I'm going to try and get on, lol.
45 Post contains links and images Olympic707 : Here is the Concorde at IAD museum http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=348196 That museum is worth seeing, it is bigger than it looks. Yanni
46 Post contains images WesternA318 : OMG, Now I KNOW where I'm headed for my Semester break in August. MAN! Is that a FedEx Falcon under the wing??
47 Aleksandar : According to some pics BAC 1-11 looks OK, but what about 727 and 737-200? Are they still in good condition?
48 Post contains images Olympic707 : Yes it is. It is one of the original Falcons FedEx started with. I got to the museum a bit late and only had time to take a few pictures. I'm going t
49 WesternA318 : Around what time? I'll be there from August 12-15. If there's a bunch of us going, I'll rent a big-ass Volvo S-80 and we'll all head down there and s
50 Post contains links and images Olympic707 : Hopefully I will get my 3 week vacation in August. Spotting at IAD is a bit tricky, I've been told on some spots to go that I have not tried yet. My
51 Post contains links and images HighFlyer9790 : i was Born in boston, but my dad is from greece. my grand parents live in paleo phalero. i go there every summer. their house is about a few miles fro
52 WesternA318 : LOL sounds like a blast!
53 WesternA318 : Is there anywhere in ATH that sells commercial models still? I remember when I was 5-6 or so, me and my 'rents walked into the TWA Ticket office and m
54 Olympic707 : The gift shops at the new Athens airport have them. No models with OA colors though. Yanni
55 WesternA318 : Wait a sec, I remember from last year one of the shops had a HUGE selection of Herpa Wings...anyone that sells Flight Miniature or bigger?
56 Post contains links and images GCDEG : They do have a few OA aircraft. You just have to be in on the right day at the right time. I bought an OA A340 and a smaller scale OA B737 with the s
57 Post contains images Olympic707 : I seen the small 1:400 and 1:500 scale models and bigger, but they were all in foreign airlines, no OA colors. I've been to most of those gift shops.
58 Post contains images GCDEG : Yeia Sou Yianni, Here's a picture of the 3 OA models I have. I also have an OA 717 somewhere too. Reg's are SX-DFC and SX-DFD of the A340's and SX-BK
59 Post contains links and images HighFlyer9790 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Constantinos I. Caragiannis exactly. It was the best spot in ATH in my opinion. long live LGAT!!
60 Post contains images Olympic707 : Geia Sou Niko, The larger A340 is very nice. What scale is that, 1:200? What company made it? I guess I was out of luck that day. All the shops I loo
61 Post contains links and images Olympic707 : I agree These pictures show a good spotting area for spotting / photographing the approaching aircraft. Do police bother spotters by the new airport?
62 Aleksandar : Hi Nick, All three models are really beautiful, especially that B-737-400 in special livery.
63 WesternA318 : I've got an OA 737-200 from wooster and a PPC A340-200, anyone want em? And an old poster of an A300-600.
64 Lewis : Unfortunately I am not very happy with the spotting locations in LGAV. LGAT was more convenient (and closer to my house). I was thinking of trying to
65 GCDEG : Sorry Yanni, I can't remember the scale of it but I think it was Herpa Wings who made the A340's. Yeah I was very lucky to get that 737-400 in those
66 Lewis : I am not familiar with the area (roads etc) and there are a lot of weird people living there that wouldn't want me in or around their property. Voula
67 WesternA318 : Well, I for one will plan on being there, I might bring a few of the SLC/IAH spotters with me, lol, they want to come out to Europe as well for a spo
68 ANITIX87 : I flew Z93119 many times from JFK to ATH and back. I remember one time we came in SO smoothly I didn't even know we were on the ground until we turne
69 ANITIX87 : I flew N93119 many times from JFK to ATH and back. I remember one time we came in SO smoothly I didn't even know we were on the ground until we turne
70 Post contains images WesternA318 : I was on that flight too! Where were you sitting? I was in 24A. Fell to my knees in JFK when I heard the news a few hours after arrival.
71 ANITIX87 : I don't remember where, exactly, just that I was over the wing. I was 9 years old, so I don't remember much. I didn't realize she was the plane that h
72 Post contains images Olympic707 : Weird people? On approach to the new ATH airport, I see a lot of nice houses around the airport. Can you pull over the side of a public road and do s
73 Post contains images Olympic707 : Herpa makes a 1:500 scale die cast metal model. I seen on the web a plastic A340 that is 1:200, but it did not show a picture of it. I want something
74 WesternA318 : Yep, Thats a Skymarks model, it will be available sometime in May-June. Same scale as my PPC OA A340, only heavier since the body is completely solid
75 Lewis : Yes you can but the people living in these areas are not the friendliest IMO. There were people living around LGAT that were a bit suspicious against
76 Post contains images Olympic707 : Your right, it is Skymarks. Are those models any good? When it does come out they should have a picture of it to show if it has any detail. Yanni
77 Post contains images Olympic707 : I see, from the air these houses and farms are spread apart from one another. They are also quite a distance from the houses / buildings to the road.
78 Post contains images WesternA318 : I have quite a few Skymarks AND Hogan Wings models, the Skymarks are pretty heavy, and have really good quality, much better than Flight Miniatures/L
79 Lewis : The truth is that nobody understands the hobby. Even for LGAV, I have heard from other spotters that taxi drivers were telling them to go away or the
80 Post contains images Olympic707 : I am going to order the 1:200 .OA 737 with the "Olympic 2004" color scheme, that would look nice on a book shelf. I'll wait for the OA A340 to come o
81 Post contains images Olympic707 : I think people need to get educated of the hobby. Spotters taking pictures of planes and not bothering anybody, people all over should relax.
82 WesternA318 : The only 737 from Olympic i have is from the ealry 80's with OA's original 737-200 livery, the one dark blue cheatline. my dad got it when Wooster ca
83 Kesflyer : I have never been been stopped from taking any pictures in ATH or for that matter, at any airport that I have been too. Sure there are many dual use a
84 WesternA318 : Oh so true, I miss the huge windows that close to the ramp...
85 Post contains images Olympic707 : They had a OA model at T5 at JFK, WOW! I was at ATH and did not see any. That "old" dark blue color scheme looked good on the 707 / 720. My very firs
86 Post contains images Olympic707 : There were times I get police at BWI telling me I look suspicious by motorist driving by. I know that in Thessaloniki International Airport, picture
87 Post contains images WesternA318 : Not to mention on anything else as well! The A300 and 727 comes to mind... LOL, dont we all wish! Hellinikon was built before those terminals, wasnt
88 Kaneporta1 : What band would that be?
89 WesternA318 : We're called Iced Earth. I've only been with them for about a year and a half, due to the original guitarist screwing his back up. I'll probably be go
90 6thfreedom : In Australia there was talk of Hellinikon airport being turned into a formula one grand prix track. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
91 HighFlyer9790 : false...it was used as an olympic complex for the venues and will be home to future apartments.
92 WesternA318 : I can just see the realtor now... "And in the kitchen you will see where TWA hung it's once proud logo with the color differentation on the wall...in
93 Kaneporta1 : That's pretty impressive, my friend is into power metal and I remember him telling about how good Iced earth are and how great it is that their live
94 WesternA318 : Punk is good too, depending on the mood, lol. I love a lot of the European power metal bands, especially a bunch out of Germany called Pink Cream 69.
95 Post contains links and images Phantomphixer : Hi everyone. Greek spotters... A rare species indeed but they are out there. As a matter of fact we've made a lot of progress in the last couple of ye
96 Post contains images Olympic707 : OA colors both old and new, (minor changes) look great on any aircraft I think all 3 were designed in the late 50's early 60's. Yanni
97 Post contains images Olympic707 : I'll keep that in mind the next time I'm at ATH! Nice web site. Yanni
98 WesternA318 : Incredible website PhantomPhixer (even though it took me a half hour to read the intro, lol)! I will be out in ATH around Dec 19-20, I just might ask
99 Post contains images Aleksandar : " target=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/sfa_apogeiosi/ Thank you for the link. It is really an interesting site Few years ago, there was a web page a
100 WesternA318 : Dunno if this helps anyone, but my flights headed for ATH this December are the following: 12/15/06: CO2920 SLC-IAH 0545AM 0954AM ERJ-145 (Y/Econ) CO1
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