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YYZ To Be A380 Ready By January '07  
User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

An article published in the April addition of "Pearson Today", the publication of the GTAA states that as part of Pier F of the new Terminal 1, 2 gates will be constructed capable of handling the A380. The original plan did not call for these gates to be built but the arrival of this aircraft sparked changes by the GTAA. Also stated in this article is United Airlines will move there operations into Terminal 1 in January 2007.

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User currently offlinePlanetime From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Quoting RicardoFG (Thread starter):
Terminal 1, 2 gates will be constructed capable of handling the A380.

But who is planning on flying them in the near future? Most of the N.American routes of 380 will be LAX,SFO,JFK,Montreal (from AF), and MIA. Anyhow nothing wrong in being prepared.


User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

Do I remember correctly that YYZ has the highest landing fees in the world? Or is it a taxes thing? I think this has been discussed on this forum. If true, some airlines might want to consider that and minimize their YYZ flights, hence using the A380.

Anyway, any new gate / terminal in any major global airport (and YYZ definitely is) has to be A380-compatible. The future will include the A380, get used to it!



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User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

Considering that all international carriers except AC and its Star partner LH fly from Terminals 2 or 3, having a pier at T-1 A380-ready doesn't seem very big news.

User currently offlineBa777-236 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 674 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

Quoting Sebring (Reply 3):
Considering that all international carriers except AC and its Star partner LH fly from Terminals 2 or 3, having a pier at T-1 A380-ready doesn't seem very big news.

I agree, it does seem odd, but I'm sure once the international section of T-1 is open, a few airlines will move from T-3..

My guess/hope is that we'll see Korean Air bringing the 380 here, and IF British Airways gets some, they too.. And maybe Fedex??



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User currently offlineLouA340 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

I hope to see LH or EY comming to YYZ with the A380.


RyEng
User currently offlineVincewy From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

LH will be most likely.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3635 times:

Well, only SQ will even have them by Jan 07, so YYZ is way ahead of the game.


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User currently offlineCNZ3 From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3628 times:

Quoting Vincewy (Reply 6):
LH will be most likely.

LH is pretty much the ONLY airline we're supposing will bring it in, due to the fact that the landing fees will only go up as Ottawa wants more and more rent from us.

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 2):
Anyway, any new gate / terminal in any major global airport (and YYZ definitely is) has to be A380-compatible. The future will include the A380, get used to it!

 checkmark  checkmark  checkmark  All 3 Canadian gateway airports needed to plan for as many 380's as they thought they would get. We have prospects of it from several carriers, so we put in a couple of gates. ADM knows AF is flying it there, so they built a gate for it. I don't know what YVR has done/is planning to do.

Quoting Ba777-236 (Reply 4):
once the international section of T-1 is open, a few airlines will move from T-3..

Sorry, but for international flights, T1 is AC & their codeshare partners/Star Alliance's terminal (there are exceptions like Etihad) until T3 closes (~2050). When the T3 expansions open next year it will be a lot less crowded in there for all the other airlines.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9229 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

"currently there are 21 airports ‘A380 ready’ a number it expects to double by the end of 2007, and which will reach 63 by 2010."

from http://www.ifalpa.org/if_news/IFALPA%20News%2006NWS010.pdf



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User currently offlineCNZ3 From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3621 times:

Also, anyone wishing to read Toronto Pearson Today can do so at this page:

Toronto Pearson Today

Steve



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User currently offlineIMatAMS From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

Quoting CNZ3 (Reply 8):
I don't know what YVR has done/is planning to do

Considering that YVR is building an extension to the international building anyway, and that the 2010 Olympics will cause a surge in traffic, it would seem odd not to make 1 or 2 gates 380-ready, I think...

IM


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3367 times:

Quoting CNZ3 (Reply 8):
When the T3 expansions open next year it will be a lot less crowded in there for all the other airlines.

What T3 expansions?

Quoting Sebring (Reply 3):
Considering that all international carriers except AC and its Star partner LH fly from Terminals 2 or 3, having a pier at T-1 A380-ready doesn't seem very big news.

Austrian and Alitalia also use T1.


User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 12):

What T3 expansions?

The T3 Expansion Project will add an additional 40 Check-in Counters at the east end of T3. It will also add an additional customs area, and another luggage carousel (IIRC). This will open in just over a month.

On the west end, they have reconfigured Gate B9 & B10 to accomodate larger aircraft.

This was done to relieve some of the congestion in T3.

James



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User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
LH is pretty much the ONLY airline we're supposing will bring it in, due to the fact that the landing fees will only go up as Ottawa wants more and more rent from us

I don't see LH bringing the A380 into YYZ. Pearson is a busy, but not what I would consider a capacity constrained airport. YYZ-FRA flights are generally packed, and I could see LH adding a supplemental flight (double-daily) to tie in with a set of un-banked connections. I can see a departure in the 2300-2359 range ex YYZ. Ideally a dayliner flight would be great, but don't see such a service happening before key US cities (NYC/ORD/BOS).



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User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

check out:

some great maps from CNZ3

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 14):
I don't see LH bringing the A380 into YYZ.

I don't know or not know about that, as I think you clicked the wrong area for your quote...  Wink



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User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3257 times:

Quoting CNZ3 (Reply 8):
as Ottawa wants more and more rent from us.

Yes everyone in Ottawa (as citizens, we all collectively decide this) wants more from Toronto, lol. Seriously though, the Tories have said the airports should be rent-free. Let's see if they'll follow-through with this.

YOW will be A380-ready to handle diversions and any VIP gov't. A380 that might someday be ordered. The terminal will not be able to handle a 380 (747s will still be the largest), but there will be airstairs if ever needed. The adjustments to YOW are quite minimal. All that's required is to paint some new lines on the taxiways.


User currently offlineCNZ3 From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3157 times:

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 12):
What T3 expansions?



Quoting Cruiser (Reply 13):
The T3 Expansion Project will add an additional 40 Check-in Counters at the east end of T3. It will also add an additional customs area, and another luggage carousel (IIRC). This will open in just over a month.

Just to clear up some possible confusion here, the T3 Expansion opens in June, but it will not add any baggage carousels until next year as the existing baggage claim area/customs undergoes renovations. At least that's the latest info I have; the data doesn't exactly flow freely between my department and T3 management.

[Edited 2006-04-07 01:13:32]


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User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3134 times:

Quoting CNZ3 (Reply 8):
LH is pretty much the ONLY airline we're supposing will bring it in, due to the fact that the landing fees will only go up as Ottawa wants more and more rent from us.

Yes we all know YYZ is in such a bad shape because of Ottawa...... maybe
GTAA can use it for some advertising in the future......

Sure LH would be one of them.

Cheers,


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3127 times:

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 13):
Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 12):

Thanks. I hadn't heard about any of that


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting Planetime (Reply 1):
But who is planning on flying them in the near future?

That's hardly any basis for planning.....airports are planned keeping in mind needs for the next 20 years or so.....the picture may be very different once the 380 proves itself and a lot of other airlines start flying it....


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