Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Boeing Automated Parts Tracking System  
User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

It is reported today by Flight International that Boeing is instituting a 'smart' parts tracking system with RF identification labels to be attached to aircraft parts on the 787, the better to trace them. A worthy effort and I applaud them. They are also working on a passive tracking system with Fedex on one of their DC10 freighters.

However. I suggested that such technologies were cheap and readily available back in 1996 when I published a law review article entitled Flying Underground:The Trade in Bootleg Aircraft Parts in the Journal of Air Law and Commerce at Southern Methodist University.

I opined at the time that if the UPS man who brings a package of sneakers to my door had the man-portable technology to scan and track my package from the point of origination to the point of departure, there was no principled reason why we should not be doing the same thing with traceable and life limited aircraft parts, in view of the risks involved from counterfeit and bogus parts.

The technology has only gotten better and cheaper in the intervening years. If we're able to track a 69 cent can of wax beans from the cannery through the distributor and supermarket to the point of sale. it's high time someone did something like Boeing, only cheaper and faster.

There. I have spoken.

6 replies: All unread, jump to last
User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3228 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2857 times:

A question here.....is it possible for unscrupolous individuals (or campanies) to tamper with the RF chip so that the 'tracing' is no longer possible?

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2851 times:

Just as an FYI, but this is not a Boeing-only system. This is one of the areas that Boeing and Airbus partnered up. They also share the same B2B network for parts. Outside of the scope of this, they teamed up on safety standards.

When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1610 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2841 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 1):
is it possible for unscrupolous individuals (or campanies) to tamper with the RF chip so that the 'tracing' is no longer possible?

You can just peel the rf tag off the part, its like a sticker. But why would anyone want to do that??? This is more for inventory control and traking and nothing to really do with safety. You would still need to following the FAA guidelines and processes when it comes to maintenance.

This just makes like easier for Boeing and suppliers... and customers for an automated inventory control.

Airbus or Boeing - it's all good to me!
User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks ago) and read 2829 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 2):
they teamed up on safety standards

Agreed. They've spent alot of time working on standards. As promising as RFID is for retail and consumer goods, coding & tracking of spares is a completely different animal.
Just think what a nightmare it would be if there were 150 different companies in the industry all applying their own proprietary RFID coding system.

User currently offlinePtharris From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 2):
This is one of the areas that Boeing and Airbus partnered up.

Holy Hell!  Wow! Say it isn't so! What will the a.net forums do if they partner up and no longer have anything to bash about in a A vs B thread?  duck 

Seriously, this is a great idea for Boeing/Airbus/any company. I'm curious if parts that are "re-serviced" will eventually lose this ID tag or are they "reprogrammed"?

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
User currently offlineKangar From Ireland, joined Feb 2000, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Even though it's not 100% tamper proof, and what system is?.......it's a big step forward in improving traceability and accountability. Well done to all involved I say. RFID is going to be everywhere soon.

Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Boeing Bad Parts Reporters: Focus On FAA posted Tue Apr 18 2006 04:08:39 by Azstagecoach
Awesome Live ATC Flight Tracking System! posted Wed Mar 29 2006 21:09:33 by FJWH
Uk Flight Tracking System? posted Thu Mar 9 2006 21:19:01 by Ryanair0pk
Pictures Of Boeing 787 Parts. posted Sat Mar 4 2006 10:52:42 by Himmat01
DEN Automated Baggage Handling System posted Wed Nov 30 2005 23:31:19 by N328KF
Boeing Delivers Revolutionary Landing System On737 posted Fri May 13 2005 07:13:40 by Jacobin777
FAA, NTSB, Boeing Baffled By 2 747 System Faliures posted Thu Dec 4 2003 09:17:27 by Singapore_Air
Swissair/Sabena E>tracking System posted Wed Apr 12 2000 19:15:09 by Sndp
Boeing Must Redesign 787 Parts posted Mon Nov 6 2006 16:11:52 by NYC777
DIA's Automated Baggage System posted Thu May 25 2006 16:56:32 by JayDavis