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Largest DC-9(10-50) Fleets Ever - What Airlines?  
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6691 times:

Just as the title suggest; I'm looking for about the top 15 or so largest DC-9 fleet operators of all time -worldwide.

I am not including DC-9-80s/MD-80s, or MD-90s, or MD-95s/717s...just to clarify.

Certain airlines cross my mind like Hughes Airwest, Republic, TWA...etc.

Any ideas?


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User currently offlineASAFA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 168 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6677 times:

I think Continental operated a rather large DC-9 fleet in their day.

And who could forget NW.



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User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6669 times:

NW inheritted all of Republic's DC-9s and then some. I can't think of anyone whose DC-9 fleet was bigger than NW's was at its prime.


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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6669 times:

Quoting ASAFA (Reply 1):
And who could forget NW.

On a tangent...
I might be incorrect, but how many DC-9s did NW actually order from the DC? I think most of theirs came from Ozark and Republic.



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User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6653 times:

I think AC was a pretty major operator of the DC9 series.

There are 2 ways you can look at the numbers---how many DC9 fins ever flew for an airline in total (not neccesarily at same time) or what was the largest fleet flying at any one time? Either way I think AC would be up there.

If memory serves Eastern Airlines had a ton of them


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6645 times:
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What about Alitalia?? I think its DC9 fleet were the largest in Europe or I'm wrong??


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6628 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 3):
On a tangent...
I might be incorrect, but how many DC-9s did NW actually order from the DC? I think most of theirs came from Ozark and Republic.

And Republic inherited them from Southern, North Central and Hughes Air West. In fact a large number of DC-9s came from the later, although North Central ordered many of them during the mid 1970s when they proved to be more viable on short-hop flights than the Boeing 737-100 was.



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7482 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6619 times:

Didn't SAS & DL have a whole slew of DC-9s back in a day?

Wasn't DL the North American launch customer for the DC-9?



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6619 times:

Quoting CayMan (Reply 4):
There are 2 ways you can look at the numbers---how many DC9 fins ever flew for an airline in total (not neccesarily at same time) or what was the largest fleet flying at any one time?

I'll leave this up for interpretation. JAL has flown the most 747 tails, but does not have the largest 747 fleet at a given moment in time...I think that title belongs to BA currently. Even if I'm wong in this example, I think you get what I'm trying to say. Good point, though.



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6619 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 3):
but how many DC-9s did NW actually order from the DC

Zero.

All of them came from RC, and then they built up a fleet from various other airlines, none were delivered new to NW.


User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 396 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6603 times:

SAS, Eastern, Continental, Delta, Alitalia, US Airways, Aero Mexico, Air Canada, Finnair, Iberia, TWA, et. al. were all big DC-9 users back in the day.

In the 1970s, I think Eastern owned the biggest DC-9 fleet (around 200), which included DC-9-10s, 30s and 50s. Then in the early 1980s, after Republic was fully formed with the merger of North Central and Southern, then, Hughes Air West, they had the largest DC-9 fleet. NW still flies hundreds of them (chiefly inherited from the buy out of Republic).


User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6603 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 3):
how many DC-9s did NW actually order from the DC?

None! NW only got 5 DC-8-30 and 22 DC-10-40 newly delivered by MDC.


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6585 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 9):
All of them came from RC, and then they built up a fleet from various other airlines, none were delivered new to NW.

I hate doing this and going against my own established thread rules...BUT...I've got to ask...

On another tangent: Did NW order new MD-80s? And why did NW get rid of the MD-80s so soon?



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User currently offlineBritmex From Mexico, joined Nov 2000, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6585 times:

AeroMexico had the biggest fleet in Latin America. It has operated more than 36 aircraft but not at the same time. The peak was about 25. I`m including both 15 and 30 series ONLY. AeroCalifornia also aoperated a large fleet (about 26 aircraft) but ,then again, not at the same time.

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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6563 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 12):
Did NW order new MD-80s? And why did NW get rid of the MD-80s so soon?

No, the MD-80's came from RC. There were only a few of them, and did not fit in with their fleet plans.


User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3788 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6551 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 12):
Did NW order new MD-80s? And why did NW get rid of the MD-80s so soon?

Q1) No.

Q2) To eliminate a redundant type from their fleet. Only 8 MD-80s joined the NW fleet with the Republic merger and NW already had large numbers of 727-200s as well as a large and growing fleet of A320s; both types filled essentially the same niche as NW's small number of ex-RC MD-80s which represented an additional aircraft type that was not needed.


User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6523 times:

I found this link to AC historical DC9 fleet--looks like AC operated 64 of them or so (not at same time)

http://www.canairradio.com/dc9.html

Kind of interesting to see where some of them came from and went to.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7482 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6494 times:

Quoting FLALEFTY (Reply 10):
SAS, Eastern, Continental, Delta, Alitalia, US Airways, Aero Mexico, Air Canada, Finnair, Iberia, TWA, et. al. were all big DC-9 users back in the day.

Not to nitpick here, but most of US' DC-9s they received back when they were still known as Allegheny.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6455 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 8):
JAL has flown the most 747 tails, but does not have the largest 747 fleet at a given moment in time...I think that title belongs to BA currently.

BA has the largest 744 fleet but JAL has the largest 747 fleet overall



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6405 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
BA has the largest 744 fleet but JAL has the largest 747 fleet overall

Good catch. Am I correct in saying JAL has operated more 747s than any other airline ever?



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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6387 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 5):
What about Alitalia?? I think its DC9 fleet were the largest in Europe or I'm wrong??

Guess where they are today? N601NW to N626NW...
ALSO 14 of SAS model 40's went to NW as did quite a few
Eastern model 30's.
The amazing thing is that one day NW did not fly a DC-9 and the very next, they were the biggest DC 9 operator in the world.
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User currently offlineAA717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6302 times:

Just off the top of my head, TWA had 4 -10's, 33 or 36 -30's, one each -34 and 41 and 12 -50's from EA (acquired in the early 90's). If anyone has the exact numbers, please post them.

These were all on the property at the same time.TC



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User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6298 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 12):
And why did NW get rid of the MD-80s so soon?

They didn't retire them until 1999, IIRC, at a point where they needed heavy MX checks. AFAIK, none were re-sold, they were all scrapped on retirement.

Steve


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6282 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 19):
Good catch. Am I correct in saying JAL has operated more 747s than any other airline ever?

I would guess that it is close between JAL, United and BA. JAL has taken 108 747s, PAX and Freighter, directly from Boeing. United has taken 64 directly from Boeing and got around 10 more 747s from Pan Am. BA/BOAC has taken 94 747s from Boeing. So yes, it appears JAL is the biggest 747 operator ever.



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User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 396 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6142 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 17):
Not to nitpick here, but most of US' DC-9s they received back when they were still known as Allegheny.

That is correct. Most of the US DC-9 fleet was inherited from Allegheny. However, US also bought more DC-9-30s after they became US. In fact, before the Piedmont merger (which added a vast 737 fleet) the DC-9 was the "backbone" of US Airways' fleet.


25 N1120A : Actually, USAir had already started the transition to the 737 before the Piedmont deal. In fact, they co-launched the 733 with Southwest and recieved
26 Yyz717 : AC peaked at 53 DC-9's at one time, in the mid-70's. 44 D93, 8 D91, and 1 D93F.
27 Stirling : Eastern operated 122 DC-9s over its lifetime from Apr66 to Mar91. Almost 25 years EXACTLY! Here is the breakdown: 15 DC-9-14 75 DC-9-31 6 DC-9-32 (all
28 Post contains images Isitsafenow : You're not off track...you're just showin' off........ I never knew that about Eastern and the SST... thanks for sharin'. safe
29 Tango-Bravo : As for the history of "short" DC-9s (-10s) operated by TWA there were two "generations:" In 1966-67 15 DC-9-15s were delivered new to TWA from Dougla
30 Cedarjet : I would say SAS would be right up there, for one thing they ordered, I think, every single version, from the DC9-10 through the custom -20 and -40 (ho
31 Isitsafenow : Actually, T.B., there was 20..N1051T thru N1070T. safe
32 Post contains images Stirling : Now WHO is showing off!
33 Cf6ppe : According to the Bill Harms Aircraft Inventory listing for DC9 airframes: "Total Built = 976 (147 DC9-10/15/20, 621 DC9-30, 71 DC9-40, 96 DC9-50, 41 C
34 Scalebuilder : I don't think they ordered the DC9-10. I also think they only briefly leased the DC9-50. Very few examples. I have always known SAS as the largest DC
35 BA747YYZ : Air Canada, perhaps, no probaly TWA.
36 WesternA318 : NW got the -50's from EA and TWA, didn't they?
37 TrnsWrld : I dont have any numbers but I remember a TON of the TWA jets with Ozark and Eastern tail numbers.
38 WesternA318 : Same here, in STL, we would park a couple of the -50s together, and MAN, it looked like an Eastern -9-50 had sex with a TWA plane, cause, it just loo
39 Phllax : I remember reading somewhere that Allegheny and then US operated the world's largest fleet of DC-90-30 series at one point in time. Some they got from
40 Dtwclipper : May we assume that this is a reference to NW 255, 16/08/1987?
41 Access-Air : Actually, TWA used to havea sizebale fleet of DC9-15s before they merged oin 1986 with Ozark... Most of those went to the first Midway Airlines that
42 Isitsafenow : The only model 50 NW got from Eastern was N401EA which was delivered from the factory to Allegheny Airlines as N920VJ 10-10-75.The plane went to East
43 Srbmod : Valujet/AirTran had a pretty decent DC-9 fleet at one point (Mostly of the various 30 series, but also had several DC-9-20s prior to the shutdown afte
44 Skymileman : From What I hear, NWA is number one and then ABX Air
45 Tango-Bravo : From the initial 15 MD-82s TWA agreed to lease from McDD on very favorable terms in 1982, the total number of MD-80s (-82 and -83 variants) delivered
46 Post contains links WDBRR : I was checking out N401EA, noticed it was taken in IND in 1990. does anyone know what gates these were? http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...%20OL%2
47 AlexPorter : I was waiting for someone to bring this up - honestly if not for this incident I probably wouldn't know that NW ever had MD-80s at all, since they we
48 Steeler83 : I was poised to comment on US's DC-9 fleet, but apparently many of you beat me to it... Oh well...
49 FLALEFTY : Yes sir! US Air did join Southwest as the launch customer for the 733. My only point was that prior to the Piedmont merger (which added a bunch of 73
50 LN-KGL : The SAS DC-9-fleet was as follows (either their own or leased aircraft): 10x DC-9-21 5x DC-9-32 (leased from Swissair due to late arrival of their fi
51 Steeler83 : Besides PIT-MCO, LGA, and PHL, does anyone else know which routes US used a DC-9 on?
52 Blsbls99 : I live in the Phoenix area, on the east side of Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport, so I see a lot of planes in their approach/decent into PHX. Every time I s
53 Tornado82 : I can remember making PIT-IND trips on 9's years and years ago.
54 Steeler83 : When I was 9 I took a DC-9 dahn to Orlando. I remember those flights very well... US 8564 PIT-MCO on a DC-9 US 8565 MCO-PIT on a DC-9 And I think one
55 Indy : That would be concourse A and either A1 or A3. I'm thinking A1.
56 Tango-Bravo : ...although I do not see where anyone has posted any numbers for DC-9s operated by AL/US, so... According to an article titled "US Airways DC-9 Famil
57 Post contains images Steeler83 : Tango Bravo, you have some hell of a knowledge bank. Thanks for all of that info there. I figured that US would have had such a considerable fleet, bu
58 Tornado82 : Tango-Bravo, when was the retirement of that fleet? I remember riding them at least into the very end of the 90s... but can't seem to remember any aft
59 Post contains links Steeler83 : I think they went in 2000. I remember coming to PIT to pick up my Grandma from a PHL trip after Thanksgiving Weekend in 1999. We actually all drove o
60 Tango-Bravo : You are very welcome! My "knowledge bank" is in the collection of airline/airliner books, magazines and timetables I have accumulated over the past 2
61 Post contains images Isitsafenow : Aw, that Tango-Bravo...I taught him everything I know..... JUST KIDDING!!!!!! But he is good, isn't he? safe
62 Gr8SlvrFlt : Two of Eastern's DC-9-31s came with the Caribair merger. They had a door to the tailcone exit versus a hatch like EA's other -31s. Eastern's -31s also
63 Post contains images PHLBOS : Interesting total number there (156)... the exact final production total of the MD-95/717... One can only ponder, Had SAS ordered the 717... Had SAS
64 Post contains images Steeler83 : It looks like your hobby here really came in handy here Perhaps I should start getting my hands on some aviation info myself. I am somewhat doing tha
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