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Embraer 145 Pushback By Hand.  
User currently offlineAfrikaskyes From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9521 times:

Me and 5 other rampers just pushed an ERJ back using some muscle. When a jetbridge fails and there is no towbar available, go get 5 other guys and you're good to go! Piece of cake!

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User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9467 times:

Out of curiosity, where did you grab it when you were pushing it back? The leadiing edge of the wings?

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9394 times:
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I've had to do that with a B1900 before. You have to be resourceful sometimes, and that was a good way to avoid taking a delay.


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User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9348 times:

That's a solid push, that's for sure. Three of us used to push a Citation 500 every once in a while (which is like 1/4 the weight) and it was a workout, especially against a slight incline!

Steve


User currently offlineSLUAviator From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9189 times:

I hand pushed a J-41 with a couple other guys once.

Nice work with the 145.



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User currently onlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8236 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9170 times:

You must work at a pretty small airport, huh?


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User currently offlineThegooddoctor From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9170 times:

Quoting Afrikaskyes (Thread starter):
Me and 5 other rampers just pushed an ERJ back using some muscle. When a jetbridge fails and there is no towbar available, go get 5 other guys and you're good to go! Piece of cake!

That had to have been entertaining for the passengers! I'm assuming the pilot was nice enough not to spool the engines until after pushback?

-S



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User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1905 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9129 times:

Is the ERJ-145 capable of reversing from the gate under its own power? I know this has been done on other aircraft like the DC-9 and MD-80.

-Justin


User currently offlineLoggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9067 times:

Capable, yes....

Intelligent, NO

The engines are too low to the ground that FOD ingestion becomes a factor. Most operators prohibit it (well, at least the 2 airlines I've flown it with).

Nice job on the hand push, that's about 8000lbs per person.



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User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9046 times:

Quoting Loggat (Reply 11):
Nice job on the hand push, that's about 8000lbs per person.

And using a relatively normal friction coefficient of Ruber on a relatively low friction surface (concrete) that still probably around 200-250lbs per person!

Well done!


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9037 times:

Which one are you in this picture?  Wink




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User currently offlineWannabe From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 677 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9020 times:

Which one of you wore the towbar?

User currently offlineBDL2DCA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8778 times:

I want pics!

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User currently offlineMGASJO From Nicaragua, joined Feb 2005, 464 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8768 times:

I saw it once in SJO with a MX F100. It took about 8 guys. Very nice to see if you're not pushing!


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User currently offlineWorks4boeing From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8741 times:

That's a positive, can do attitude. How many guys would it take to push back an A380?  Smile

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8727 times:
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Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 10):
Is the ERJ-145 capable of reversing from the gate under its own power? I know this has been done on other aircraft like the DC-9 and MD-80

I'm sure it is, but it may not be in the ops specs for the particular airline that this airplane belongs to.



Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8675 times:

I know of three guys who pushed a Dornier 328 once. Quite difficult, I believe, as obviously you can't grab the wings to push!

User currently offlineRaventom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8251 times:

Didn't some beef guy pull a 747 once? I'm sure i saw it on TV once. Once they get it rolling it should be easy.


I love the smell of burnt kerosene!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlinePawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7998 times:

Quoting Raventom (Reply 17):
Didn't some beef guy pull a 747 once? I'm sure i saw it on TV once. Once they get it rolling it should be easy.

It was a Guinness World Record in the 2005 book. Some guy pulled Qantas' 'Wunala Dreaming' plane like 140m @ the QANTAS base in SYD. It was pretty cool, but he was like the world's 2nd strongest man and he looked like the HULK with all those muscles, but yes it did happen  Wow!

JG



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User currently offlineAndersNilsson From Sweden, joined May 2004, 416 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7884 times:

I'm happy to have pushed an empty Swiss Learjet 35A at my local airport together with the planes two pilots in the nineties.

Anders



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User currently offlineRaventom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7543 times:

Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 18):
he looked like the HULK with all those muscles

Imagine all the tow drivers and baggage handlers like that... lol



I love the smell of burnt kerosene!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineNwab787techops From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7008 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 15):
Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 10):
Is the ERJ-145 capable of reversing from the gate under its own power? I know this has been done on other aircraft like the DC-9 and MD-80

I'm sure it is, but it may not be in the ops specs for the particular airline that this airplane belongs to.

If the emb 145 has T/R's, you can power back.


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6741 times:

Quoting AndersNilsson (Reply 19):
with the planes two pilots in the nineties.

Both the pilots were over 90 years old ?? Big grin


User currently offlinePeachAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 366 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6547 times:

We had to do this at MCO with a B727 back in the mid-1990's. We had acquired some ex-Eastern 727's for the Shuttle and they required a non-standard towbar head which usually traveled with the aircraft. The aircraft arrived without the towbar head and nobody noticed until the aircraft was ready to push. It was a weekend flight going back to LGA.

I recall it took about 16 ramp agents to push the aircraft back. - main gears, fuselage gear doors. It was a sight to behold. I would have photographed it if I could have.


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4813 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6521 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 22):
Both the pilots were over 90 years old ??

That one is funny!!!  Big grin



"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Garfield
25 Pilotaydin : almost sounds erotic lol
26 AirTran737 : Just because an airplane has something doesn't mean you can use it. Take NW, YX and FL for example. The all have members of the MD-80/717 family. NW
27 AviationAddict : Let's be serious now! What's your idea of easy?!? I imagine that dude was sore after that little adventure, even if he was the Hulk!
28 Post contains images Skyexramper : Me too AT737. Spot 14 had a Mx delay blocking spot 12 from leaving.
29 Post contains images Aogdesk : Yeah, well this one time at band camp I had to tow a B757 all by myself by hand across the active.
30 Georgetown : Best A.net quote in a while!
31 AviationAddict : You might have an idea for another sequel "American Airport"
32 Litz : Also - an EMB145 (like any regional jet) has engines very low to the ground, compared to a 727, DC9, MD80, or 717 ... this vastly increases your FOD
33 Gilligan : A friend of mine that works at SAT told me that on occasion they have had to pushback several types of aircraft, Boeing, MD's, and ERJ's. Evidently th
34 Starlionblue : Many ERJs are not equipped with R/T. But if they are I suppose it's theoretically possible. Unlike the ERJ, you can't push against the wings, but I s
35 Raventom : Momentum :S Let me rephrase just for you... easier.
36 Pgv : Yup. Biggest reason for no powerback allowed is because of debris that can be picked up and thrown into pitot, static ports, etc. which can make life
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