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Is There Still An Air France Concorde In New York?  
User currently offlineG-BEAK From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 168 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

I was glad the BA Concorde came back home last night to the rest of its 'family'. Then I started thinking about Air France. They grounded theirs straight after the accident and the scheduled service had departed for JFK not long before so I'm assuming it wouldn't have had time to return to Paris. Is there still an Air France Concorde at JFK? Anyone know?

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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

Yes there is. Saw one this morning upon my arrival from MIA on AA A300. I was surprised to see it. It was parked near a roadway; easy to spot.


Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineMorecy From United States of America, joined May 2000, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Being in Dallas I wouldn't know first hand, but I do know that there's always atleast one AF Concorde at JFK. So, I would guess yes, it's there.

User currently offlineG-BEAK From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

Thanks for telling me. Thats quite sad. I wonder if it will ever get to go home?

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

Maybe France will give it to the U.S. as a gift, and we could build a pedestal for it on a small island just off the coast of New York.


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

It sure would look nice. Raise the landing gear, angle it skywards, and seal up everything. 2cool

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6453 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

If the Corcorde will fly again, then it will go home.
If not, then it will be terribly needed by a US aircraft museum.
If the Concorde era is over, then it is unthinkable that one should not be on display in the USA.
Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineEzra From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

How is it unthinkable that Concorde should not be on display in the USA? The plane was developed by the French and British, and was never in the fleet of any U.S. airline.

User currently offlineRWally From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 555 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4168 times:

If France were to let us keep the Concorde, and we build a base for it, wouldn't that be like the Statue of Liberty? They gave us Lady Liberty, but we had to build the base.

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Yo, people. I was joking! Ever hear of the Statue of Liberty? Large bronze chick France gave to us? She's standing on a small island off the coast of New York.


Sometimes humor doesn't translate well over the internet  



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4158 times:

I was posting my last response while you posted yours RWally. I wasn't serious in my earlier post.


I have a better idea now. Maybe the U.S. military should take it over and turn it in to bomber. Then we can fly over to Asia and nuke North Korea in 3 hours.


 



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineRWally From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 555 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4140 times:

Your last idea is funny TWFirst. I say we go for it!

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

My first idea was funny too, but nobody got it.


Maybe the concorde could somehow be put on the same pedestal with Lady Liberty so it looks like she's riding it. A small plaque underneath would read "Gift from France".



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6453 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

Why it is unthinkable that a US museum should not have a Concorde:
The Concorde is a very special plane. It has served the USA and its cityzens with the world's fastest connection the "the old world" for 25 years.
I fact I think that the Concorde has landed more times in New York than in any other city in the world. And I shouldn't wonder that more Americans have flown on the Concorde than any other nationality.
So why should it be on a US museum? Same reason as the DC-3 on the Danish aircraft museum 30 miles from where I am tapping on my keyboard. The DC-3 was a remarkable plane in Danish aviation history, even if it was produced in another country.
Best regards, Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

There is a 1/10 BA Concorde scalemodel at Times Square in NYC, towering at 10 meters above streetlevel. Maybe they can replace it by the full scale Concorde. They might have to remove a building or two...


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineVirginLover From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 958 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4111 times:

About the Statue of Liberty- as a thank you gift, the US gave France a Mini-Statue of Liberty... it stands on an island on the Seine I believe.... What a stupid thank you gift! 

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6453 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

No, no, no! Not on an island, or on a building. Or thank you gift, no thanks!
Just an ordinary museum item which people and touch and walk through, and have a look into the flight deck etc. So people can shake the landing gear and say: "Look here son, granddad flew to Europe in three hours on this bird back in the 20th century".
That's all.
Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineRWally From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 555 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

That would be funny too!  

User currently offlinePolaris From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

TWFirst...your first idea was VERY funny, subtle, and wry...unfortunately, not everyone knows the relationship between France and the US and Mademoiselle Liberty! Having her ride the Concorde was a good idea, too! Maybe she could be waving her cowboy hat...with the plaque reading "YEE-HAA"!!

User currently offlineXxxx10 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4095 times:

Does anyone know the reg of the stranded Air france Concorde?

User currently offlineSurf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4052 times:

Polaris:

I doubt anyone is gonna get your joke either, unless you didn't *realise* you just made a reference to the film "Dr. Strangelove".....


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4044 times:

I got it Surf. Polaris outdid me.

The imagery I have in my head from Polaris' suggestion is frickin hilarious. I think there's even deeper symbolism in it....



"Well doggy! We's Americans rounded us up one of them there Concordes from over there in France! Yeee haw!! (You knows I heard them there women over there don't wear no pants by the way.) Giddy up Concorde! Let's see what this little baby can do!"


        

Work with me here.



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineGreeneyes53787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 844 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4031 times:

Let's play musical Concordes. Put em all on their routes (some here and some there), tell them they're grounded and see who gets what Concordes.

Greeneyes53787


User currently offlineTWA717_200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4015 times:

I thought your first post was funny as heck! I got it.

If we keep the Concorde here, are we going to have to give France a 747 to keep?


User currently offlineDaveT From Canada, joined Dec 2011, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4022 times:

I did not read all of the responces so I may be repeating a previous reply....

I would think that if the Concordes grounding lasts indenfinitly, and considering the huge devastation that has occured in the AF Concorde family... I suspect we will not see AF Concordes flying commercial again!

Commercially, AF and BA have always been at each other regarding service, marketability, etc. and know doubt there are those in AF that want to keep the AF concordes in the air AS LONG AS BA's are flying as well.

Perhaps we are seeing a joint decision to bring to a close the concorde era.

Sadly, history HAS been made by the Concorde! It was made on July 25, 2000! The only date in the life of Concorde that will be remembered!

You can expect at some point an exclusion to the ban regarding the JFK AF concorde so that AF can get it back to its rightful home!


25 IndianGuy : TWFirst: U r really sick. Mebbe, we should hand over the concorde to those North Koreans, so they could bomb you in 3 hrs.
26 Letoile : I do not see why Concorde should be in a US Museum. When I was a kid as Concorde first commercial flight took place in 1976, I went to see it taking o
27 TAA_Airbus : Surely someone knows the rego of the stranded Concorde? btw, What does SST mean, I see it in relation to concorde all the time but have never figured
28 Apioca : SST=Super Sonic Transport
29 TWFirst : Dude. It's called sarcasm. I'm poking fun at American stereotypes. If North Korea got the Concorde, they'd sell it for food money before they used it
30 RWally : I told my dad about some of the things the U.S. could do with the Concorde as a joke. Then he said it would be stupid to make the Concorde a bomber, b
31 RIX : Hey, guys, with all of your jokes here... don't forget the AF Concorde is still at JFK because 113 people were killed less than a month ago... DaveT,
32 Post contains images TWFirst : Gee, you're right. And because of that, and all the other airplane crashes in history, we should never make another airplane joke again, right? I supp
33 Greggj : You're missing the best one: Put the Concorde in Lady Liberty's hand (remove the torch). It will look like she's throwing a paper airplane across the
34 Sv7887 : The United States already has a supersonic Bomber. The B-1 Lancer. The grounding of Concorde is a sad day for aviation, as it was one of the greatest
35 Tripl7 : RIX is right. you guys are all making jokes about a technological marvel that has suddenly gone sour - and took the lives of 113 people. TWfirst: How
36 Hkdragon2 : Gee, do you think that just *might* have been RWally's point? :p RWally wrote: ------------------------------- If France were to let us keep the Conco
37 TWFirst : Well, let's see... I'm looking through all the posts above and I DO NOT see any jokes about the downed Concorde flight or its passengers, so I have no
38 Tripl7 : The french were experimenting with flying long before kitty hawk.
39 Hkdragon2 : TWFirst: Well said! I agree completely - no jokes about the tragic Concorde crash are in this thread, and nor would anybody here make such a joke... I
40 TWFirst : So did other countries. The fact is it was Americans who actually invented a flying machine that worked. But that's irrelevant, and I doubt anyone her
41 Hkdragon2 : "Experimenting" does not equal "flying". If your invention is not successful, you've invented nothing. --- Mike
42 RWally : I know TWFirst and Hkdragon2 will probably back me up on this. If you said that the only good comment made was "What was the reg. number of the AF Con
43 TWFirst : Actually, that is a neat idea Ryan. But it would only be a possibility if the Concorde is grounded for eternity, and that is far from certain at this
44 Tripl7 : Yes, the Hunley was the first sub. It was an Irish invention. TWfirst: I am actually laughing at your last re-the Wrights being DEAD ! (And I am not b
45 TWFirst : Yes Tripl7, I was NOT talking about or even implying the downed plane. I was simply being a smartass and referring to a hunk of French property sittin
46 Tripl7 : It written all over this thread, with a few exceptions. Concorde is being ridiculed here. Before anybody writes something about my sensitivity or me b
47 Hkdragon2 : TWFirst: I hadn't read the rest of the posts at that point, so didn't realise numerous others had already got your joke (which, from his post, RWally
48 Hkdragon2 : No Tripl7, indeed it doesn't imply the downed plane. It specifically refers to the plane which is still in the US. As we've been telling you all along
49 Hkdragon2 : Tripl7 In that case, perhaps you should step back and not be so oversensitive. TWFirst has not been making jokes about the crashed plane, nor has he b
50 DaveT : Ummmm.... I am confused as to what you are talking about? You write a reply with my name as the subject yet what you wrote has nothing at all to do wi
51 Hkdragon2 : DaveT: TWFirst was confused by the previous post to his, at http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/271439/ - the poster, RIX,
52 Post contains images TWFirst : Dave T: Hkdragon2 has it right. I misread RIX's message to you, thinking Dave T was RIX's name. My fault. Sorry for the confusion. Hkdragon2: Thanks f
53 Post contains images TWFirst : My, but big letters you have!
54 Prebennorholm : Hi, now when there is no more mud to be thrown around, and it is time to get back to the topic, then tell me: Is is really so that no American can sup
55 Post contains images N863DA : And for what it's worth: Yes I do believe that there should be some sort of memorial to the Concorde in the United States... the only nation that let
56 Post contains images RIX : The topic changed dramatically after my post! A US - Europe fight, something even more strong than "conventional" Boeing - Airbus! But still, guys, th
57 Polaris : Mon dieu!! No disrespect whatsoever was meant toward the Concorde or the unfortunate recent accident where many perished! Mine was a reply to a brilli
58 TWFirst : You're completely missing the point RIX. Get over it. Under your logic, we couldn't joke about cars because people have died in cars. We couldn't joke
59 G-BEAK : I only asked if there is a Concorde in New York. If I'd realised a seemingly simple question could lead to the onset of World War III I wouldn't have
60 Polaris : No need to repent TWFirst. The Great Unwashed have chosen to misinterpret your message...they're like that, you know. Free them from your mind and res
61 TWFirst : Well, I think the bottom line one can draw from the responses to your original question is: 1) There definitely IS a Concorde in New York. 2) Some peo
62 Polaris : G-BEAK: It's amazing, isn't it? This is how rumours are started; stories are told!
63 TWFirst : Merci Polaris. BTW, your screen name is so cool. Hope all is well with you.
64 Post contains images CP744 : Sorry Gentlemen........ I thought the original post was a valid question... which I believe was answered.... It's hard to remember that long ago.....
65 Polaris : Thanks TWFirst...I blush. My screen name actually has a lot of thought behind it...but I won't explain why in this Concorde space...
66 Post contains images Tailscraper : G-BEAK, You've started a riot Don't you just love a good slanging match between the "I'm the best" Yanks, and the "I'm politically correct" Euros? Mad
67 Prebennorholm : TWFirst: 1) There definitely IS a Concorde in New York. 2) Some people would like to get their hands on it. 3) Some people will get offended if you jo
68 TWFirst : Amen Preben! Nicely said.
69 RIX : OK, OK, OK, guys, nothing wrong with you! I just expressed my opinion, couldn't I? Don't be so emotional! By the way, what is "Great Unwashed"? Sorry
70 CP744 : Polaris: Would have e-mailed you but....... Polaris... for the ex Wardair A310's now with CAF. or the "North" Star Just guesses.... and yes this post
71 Post contains images TWFirst : Opinions are OK RIX. I just didn't want you or anyone else to think I was in anyway trying to make fun at the expense of the dead Concorde passengers.
72 Letoile : "P. S. After Concorde retires (hope it didn't happen yet) one definitely must be in a museum in the USA. " ... MUST ???... wouldn't it be more modest
73 Prebennorholm : Yes, she fought a war against that country twenty years ago, won the war, won the peace, and performed decades of peaceful cooperation - and made a lo
74 Bacardi182 : Did you hear that one of the Concorde pilots asked the other if he was going home after his shift? Apparently, he said: "No, I'm just gonna crash at t
75 Tr1492 : Thank you, Preben!!!! Not to be politically incorrect and the hell with modesty (I am American, after all!!) I WANT a Concorde to be in the USA when t
76 Post contains images RIX : Flame you? , didn't expect you are so vulnerable, guys! Enough said, I'm leaving this thread... TR, once again 100% agree with you. Regards, RIX
77 AFa340-300E : Dear all, After all these posts, we still don't know the registration of the Concorde which is still at JFK. Thank you, Best regards, Alain Mengus
78 Tupolev154B2 : Actually, according to Newsweek, Air France offered to donate one of its Concordes to the National Air and Space Museum once they are retired and with
79 Akelley728 : Prebennorholm, Have you ever been to the National Air & Space Museum (one of the Smithsonian museums) in Washington D.C.? If you haven't you must visi
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