Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6261 times:
Found a little snippet on Bloomberg:
" Boeing to Sign $5 Bln Order Tomorrow to Sell 80 Planes to China
April 10, 2006 00:50 EDT -- Boeing Co., the world's second- largest commercial aircraft maker, will get a $5 billion order from Hainan Airlines Co. and seven Chinese carriers tomorrow for as many as 80 planes, airline executives said."
NAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9074 posts, RR: 37 Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6121 times:
Yet more good news for Boeing if the report is accurate. But I wonder if this report isn't a bit of a 'double-take'? Boeing are already showing several 2006 orders from Chinese airlines (including Hainan) on their orders site, and I've been assuming that some of those are part of the 80 outstanding 'commitments' from last year?
MaxQ2351 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6089 times:
Quoting NAV20 (Reply 1): Boeing are already showing several 2006 orders from Chinese airlines on their orders site
Catch me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Boeing's policy to not publish orders on their website until the customer decides to announce the order?? If that would be the case, these orders won't post on Boeing's website until tomorrow, at the earliest, if the article is true in saying the order will be signed tomorrow.
I guess we'll find out soon enough. Either way, kudos to Boeing!!
ERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6075 times:
Please be more 737-900ER's within this order. I hope some US carriers get this plane. It would be funny to see SW or airtran get some. Im sure they could fill them up on some markets.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6064 times:
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3987 posts, RR: 93 Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5999 times:
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Quoting NAV20 (Reply 1): Yet more good news for Boeing if the report is accurate. But I wonder if this report isn't a bit of a 'double-take'? Boeing are already showing several 2006 orders from Chinese airlines (including Hainan) on their orders site, and I've been assuming that some of those are part of the 80 outstanding 'commitments' from last year?
It was 70 from last year of which 50 were firmed before December 31 2005. The remaining 20 of the 70 are what Boeing has booked and listed on their site year to date 2006.
If these 80 are signed tomorrow this will be final confirmation of the 150 GTA announced in November of 2005. So these will be new orders and listed when Boeing negotiate and receive the final contract from the respective Chinese carrier.
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3987 posts, RR: 93 Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5812 times:
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Here is the expected breakdown amongst the Chinese carriers,
Here is the breakdown at this point in time; Fair use excerpt
15 x Hainan
10 x China Southern
5 x Xiaman Airlines (Same as China Southern group)
6 x Shandong Airlines
The remaining 44 Boeing 737 planes may be split between Air China, China Eastern Airlines Corp., Shanghai Airlines and Shenzhen Airlines no model breakdown has been provided at this point.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5723 times:
Thanks for the breakdown of which airlines will get how many. Too bad that it doesn't mention which versions it'll be, though in all likeliness, most will probably be 737-800s.
ERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5604 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 4): Yeah, it would be interesting if Air Namibia bought them.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5524 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5484 times:
Maybe if AS exercises its options on their order for 737's, it could include some -900ER's or -700ER's. Likely??? NoT!
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3987 posts, RR: 93 Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5439 times:
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Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 7): Too bad that it doesn't mention which versions it'll be, though in all likeliness, most will probably be 737-800s.
Thanks DAL767400ER for actually posting on topic.
We won't know until they are signed and on Boeings books, however, expect the bulk to be 738s as you stated. There'll be some 73Gs too but there is a very good chance that Shanghai Airlines will take some 739ERs as will Hainan. I have no link to substantiate that, so at this stage, it is my un-sourced opinion.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5366 times:
interestingly enough, I haven't read this anywhere since...so maybe it doesn't have too much merit.........
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5248 times:
Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 13): Jacobin777 What, exactly, do you mean by that comment?
simple, I haven't read this news story on any other website besides the original snippet....there was nothing more to it...
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3987 posts, RR: 93 Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5225 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14): maybe we'll get more news coming out soon...
Ok, I got you. The signing could be out by a day as the Officials are only commencing their tour today. But I think you'll find the CNAC has something to say quite soon
N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5201 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14): simple, I haven't read this news story on any other website besides the original snippet....there was nothing more to it...
You're kidding, right? This was in The Wall Street Journal like two months ago. The only thing missing was the specific date it was to occur. Now we know that date.
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Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5186 times:
good..I guess I didn't do a good job making myself clear the first time..
Quoting N328KF (Reply 17): You're kidding, right? This was in The Wall Street Journal like two months ago. The only thing missing was the specific date it was to occur. Now we know that date.
er no...I wasn't kidding, but more important, got it resolved..
Mymorningsong From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5081 times:
"China President Hu Juntao is scheduled to visit Boeing’s plant in Everett, Washington, on Apr. 19, a day after stopping at the Microsoft headquarters."
N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5074 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18): but I'm going to go with what is stated here and that its just a matter of time...
Cuprita From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4982 times:
Quoting Mymorningsong (Reply 19): "China President Hu Juntao is scheduled to visit Boeing’s plant in Everett, Washington, on Apr. 19, a day after stopping at the Microsoft headquarters."
Good place to sign a big order.....................
F4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4906 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18): I've seen articles from various news orgs regarding this; AP, reuters, bloomberg, ect.
Unless Bush makes some sort of political gaffe to appease the right-wing, anti-communists in his party which offends the chinese PM, this will happen.
F4N
interesting..I've checked some other financial websites such as yahoo finance and still haven't seen anything...
but I'm going to go with what is stated here and that its just a matter of time...
Jacobin777:
How hard did you look? A Yahoo search will reveal articles from at least 2 weeks ago(or more) regarding Chinese intentions of addressing trade issues in part by ordering Boeing jets. AP, Bloomberg, Seattle P-I, Chicago Trib and Wichita's newspaper, amongst others.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4855 times:
Quoting F4N (Reply 22): How hard did you look? A Yahoo search will reveal articles from at least 2 weeks ago(or more) regarding Chinese intentions of addressing trade issues in part by ordering Boeing jets. AP, Bloomberg, Seattle P-I, Chicago Trib and Wichita's newspaper, amongst others.
I was under the assumption that if it was "big" news, then there would be more info on it this in financial websites, atwonline.com, etc.
F4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4802 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 23): I was under the assumption that if it was "big" news, then there would be more info on it this in financial websites, atwonline.com, etc.
I realize that everyone is different, but to me, an order for 80 of any jet is "big" news.
regards,
F4N
25 Tockeyhockey: this should close the US - China trade deficit by at least .005%!
27 Ikramerica: Just assume it will be just as non-sensical as the current placement numbers of various aircraft around china, so there will be 73G, 738, 739 in vari
29 SWALoveField: WN could fill many different types of aircraft but they DON'T fit into the profitable business model. A 737-900 would require an additional flight at
30 PanAm_DC10: China Eastern will sign for 16 737NGs that leaves 28 yet to be accounted for out of the 80 assuming my numbers are correct Regards, PanAm_DC10
31 DfwRevolution: Been discussed ad nasuem, but the extra FA is hardly an issue that would kill the 739ER at WN.
32 PanAm_DC10: Official Confirmation WASHINGTON, April 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA) is pleased to have signed the general purchase agre
33 Lumberton: So we should see these 80 on Boeing's Thursday orders update, just like Airbus did last Jan?
34 AirFrnt: One would argue that if Boeing did the same thing Airbus did, they would have put the orders up many months before that. But yes, I suspect that we w
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