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Boeing To Sign $5Bln Order Sell 80 Planes To China  
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7333 times:

Found a little snippet on Bloomberg:

" Boeing to Sign $5 Bln Order Tomorrow to Sell 80 Planes to China
April 10, 2006 00:50 EDT -- Boeing Co., the world's second- largest commercial aircraft maker, will get a $5 billion order from Hainan Airlines Co. and seven Chinese carriers tomorrow for as many as 80 planes, airline executives said."


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User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7193 times:

Yet more good news for Boeing if the report is accurate. But I wonder if this report isn't a bit of a 'double-take'? Boeing are already showing several 2006 orders from Chinese airlines (including Hainan) on their orders site, and I've been assuming that some of those are part of the 80 outstanding 'commitments' from last year?

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/

[Edited 2006-04-10 08:38:06]


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User currently offlineMaxQ2351 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7161 times:

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 1):
Boeing are already showing several 2006 orders from Chinese airlines on their orders site

Catch me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Boeing's policy to not publish orders on their website until the customer decides to announce the order?? If that would be the case, these orders won't post on Boeing's website until tomorrow, at the earliest, if the article is true in saying the order will be signed tomorrow.

I guess we'll find out soon enough. Either way, kudos to Boeing!!

-Max


User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7147 times:

Please be more 737-900ER's within this order. I hope some US carriers get this plane. It would be funny to see SW or airtran get some. Im sure they could fill them up on some markets.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26442 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7136 times:

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 3):
It would be funny to see SW

Yeah, it would be interesting if Air Namibia bought them.  sarcastic 



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4144 posts, RR: 90
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7071 times:
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Quoting NAV20 (Reply 1):
Yet more good news for Boeing if the report is accurate. But I wonder if this report isn't a bit of a 'double-take'? Boeing are already showing several 2006 orders from Chinese airlines (including Hainan) on their orders site, and I've been assuming that some of those are part of the 80 outstanding 'commitments' from last year?

It was 70 from last year of which 50 were firmed before December 31 2005. The remaining 20 of the 70 are what Boeing has booked and listed on their site year to date 2006.

If these 80 are signed tomorrow this will be final confirmation of the 150 GTA announced in November of 2005. So these will be new orders and listed when Boeing negotiate and receive the final contract from the respective Chinese carrier.

There is no "double-take"

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4144 posts, RR: 90
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6884 times:
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Here is the expected breakdown amongst the Chinese carriers,

Here is the breakdown at this point in time; Fair use excerpt

15 x Hainan
10 x China Southern
5 x Xiaman Airlines (Same as China Southern group)
6 x Shandong Airlines

The remaining 44 Boeing 737 planes may be split between Air China, China Eastern Airlines Corp., Shanghai Airlines and Shenzhen Airlines no model breakdown has been provided at this point.

[Source - http://www.bloomberg.com ]

Regards, Paul



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6795 times:

Thanks for the breakdown of which airlines will get how many. Too bad that it doesn't mention which versions it'll be, though in all likeliness, most will probably be 737-800s.

User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6676 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Yeah, it would be interesting if Air Namibia bought them.

i'm sorry. i ment southwest airlines.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6556 times:
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Maybe if AS exercises its options on their order for 737's, it could include some -900ER's or -700ER's. Likely??? NoT!

User currently offlineLeftWing From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6530 times:

What happened to the planned Hainan & Lufthansa Flt training tie up, to set up a flt school in Hainan

User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4144 posts, RR: 90
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6511 times:
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Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 7):
Too bad that it doesn't mention which versions it'll be, though in all likeliness, most will probably be 737-800s.

Thanks DAL767400ER for actually posting on topic.

We won't know until they are signed and on Boeings books, however, expect the bulk to be 738s as you stated. There'll be some 73Gs too but there is a very good chance that Shanghai Airlines will take some 739ERs as will Hainan. I have no link to substantiate that, so at this stage, it is my un-sourced opinion.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6438 times:

interestingly enough, I haven't read this anywhere since...so maybe it doesn't have too much merit.........


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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4144 posts, RR: 90
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6402 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 12):
interestingly enough, I haven't read this anywhere since...so maybe it doesn't have too much merit.........

Jacobin777 What, exactly, do you mean by that comment?

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6320 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 13):
Jacobin777 What, exactly, do you mean by that comment?

simple, I haven't read this news story on any other website besides the original snippet....there was nothing more to it... Smile

maybe we'll get more news coming out soon...



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4144 posts, RR: 90
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6297 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
maybe we'll get more news coming out soon...

Ok, I got you. The signing could be out by a day as the Officials are only commencing their tour today. But I think you'll find the CNAC has something to say quite soon  Wink

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineF4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6297 times:

Jacobin777:

I've seen articles from various news orgs regarding this; AP, reuters, bloomberg, ect.

Unless Bush makes some sort of political gaffe to appease the right-wing, anti-communists in his party which offends the chinese PM, this will happen.

F4N


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6273 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
simple, I haven't read this news story on any other website besides the original snippet....there was nothing more to it...

You're kidding, right? This was in The Wall Street Journal like two months ago. The only thing missing was the specific date it was to occur. Now we know that date.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 15):
Ok, I got you.

good..I guess I didn't do a good job making myself clear the first time.. Smile

Quoting N328KF (Reply 17):
You're kidding, right? This was in The Wall Street Journal like two months ago. The only thing missing was the specific date it was to occur. Now we know that date.

er no...I wasn't kidding, but more important, got it resolved.. Smile

Quoting F4N (Reply 16):
Jacobin777:

I've seen articles from various news orgs regarding this; AP, reuters, bloomberg, ect.

Unless Bush makes some sort of political gaffe to appease the right-wing, anti-communists in his party which offends the chinese PM, this will happen.

F4N

interesting..I've checked some other financial websites such as yahoo finance and still haven't seen anything...

but I'm going to go with what is stated here and that its just a matter of time...



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User currently offlineMymorningsong From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6153 times:

http://www.chinaknowledge.com/news-detail.aspx?id=2657

"China President Hu Juntao is scheduled to visit Boeing’s plant in Everett, Washington, on Apr. 19, a day after stopping at the Microsoft headquarters."


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6146 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18):
but I'm going to go with what is stated here and that its just a matter of time...

I created a thread about it a while back.

WSJ: China Firms Up Full 150-frame 737 Deal



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User currently offlineCuprita From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 6054 times:

Quoting Mymorningsong (Reply 19):
"China President Hu Juntao is scheduled to visit Boeing’s plant in Everett, Washington, on Apr. 19, a day after stopping at the Microsoft headquarters."

Good place to sign a big order.....................



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User currently offlineF4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5978 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18):
I've seen articles from various news orgs regarding this; AP, reuters, bloomberg, ect.

Unless Bush makes some sort of political gaffe to appease the right-wing, anti-communists in his party which offends the chinese PM, this will happen.

F4N

interesting..I've checked some other financial websites such as yahoo finance and still haven't seen anything...

but I'm going to go with what is stated here and that its just a matter of time...

Jacobin777:

How hard did you look? A Yahoo search will reveal articles from at least 2 weeks ago(or more) regarding Chinese intentions of addressing trade issues in part by ordering Boeing jets. AP, Bloomberg, Seattle P-I, Chicago Trib and Wichita's newspaper, amongst others.

F4N


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5927 times:

Quoting F4N (Reply 22):
How hard did you look? A Yahoo search will reveal articles from at least 2 weeks ago(or more) regarding Chinese intentions of addressing trade issues in part by ordering Boeing jets. AP, Bloomberg, Seattle P-I, Chicago Trib and Wichita's newspaper, amongst others.

I was under the assumption that if it was "big" news, then there would be more info on it this in financial websites, atwonline.com, etc.



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User currently offlineF4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5874 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 23):
I was under the assumption that if it was "big" news, then there would be more info on it this in financial websites, atwonline.com, etc.

I realize that everyone is different, but to me, an order for 80 of any jet is "big" news.  eyepopping 

regards,

F4N


25 Tockeyhockey : this should close the US - China trade deficit by at least .005%!
26 Post contains images Glideslope : It's going to be a BIG one.
27 Ikramerica : Just assume it will be just as non-sensical as the current placement numbers of various aircraft around china, so there will be 73G, 738, 739 in vari
28 Post contains images Jacobin777 : yah..guess u're right......
29 SWALoveField : WN could fill many different types of aircraft but they DON'T fit into the profitable business model. A 737-900 would require an additional flight at
30 Post contains images PanAm_DC10 : China Eastern will sign for 16 737NGs that leaves 28 yet to be accounted for out of the 80 assuming my numbers are correct Regards, PanAm_DC10
31 DfwRevolution : Been discussed ad nasuem, but the extra FA is hardly an issue that would kill the 739ER at WN.
32 PanAm_DC10 : Official Confirmation WASHINGTON, April 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA) is pleased to have signed the general purchase agre
33 Lumberton : So we should see these 80 on Boeing's Thursday orders update, just like Airbus did last Jan?
34 AirFrnt : One would argue that if Boeing did the same thing Airbus did, they would have put the orders up many months before that. But yes, I suspect that we w
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