6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3268 posts, RR: 21 Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2454 times:
I think the routes in the intial stages will be pretty clear cut.
jetstar to take over some AO routes from cairnss, while others are handed back to QF for a little while.
I would also assume jetstar will operate mel/syd to bali.
from melbourne, there is a clear need for bangkok flights. honolulu is also an obvious market.
from sydney i think jetstar will take over qantas flights to honolulu. that should be a given. perhaps vietnam, although the vietnam airlines codeshare continues.
if the above is done, that pretty much uses up all 4-6 aircraft.
these markets are all existing, or where the qantas group already has a presence.
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3268 posts, RR: 21 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2310 times:
geez, i was pretty close to the mark...
for those that are interested... announced this morning:
3pw syd-hnl [replace QF]
2pw syd-bali [replace AO]
3pw syd-phuket [new, although AO operated some charters last year]
3pw syd-sgn [new services. compete with VN. i wonder what will happen on the codeshare agreement there].
daily syd-kix-bne-syd. [i mentioned this in a post a few months back. QF claims these to be new for the QF Group, but they will effectively replace JAL on the same sector. JAL was going to suspend in March 2006, but said it would continue and 'review' the situation in late 2006. this is the solution].
Very low risk strategy if you ask me.
Also, AO finishes in July 2006. However, most AO services ex-CNS maintained, operated on a wet-lease basis between AO and QF. QF aircraft, with AO cabin crew, and about 20% lower operating costs than if QF operated.
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2669 posts, RR: 59 Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2262 times:
Perhaps the most interesting thing for me in that press release is both a month for 787 delivery to Jetstar Int'l - August 2008, but also a preliminary seat count - 311. That must mean an entirely y configuration, perhaps with a few rows of y+.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2242 times:
Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2): geez, i was pretty close to the mark...
yep. good call.
in the future, when you put airport codes, could you use uppercase? the rollover feature is not smart enough to handle lowercase airport codes.
thanks.
ps - what is SGN? I'm assuming Saigon, and I'll know for sure as soon as I post this...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Dalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2037 times:
Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 6): Perhaps the most interesting thing for me in that press release is both a month for 787 delivery to Jetstar Int'l - August 2008, but also a preliminary seat count - 311. That must mean an entirely y configuration, perhaps with a few rows of y+.
The 2-class operation will have a J-class equivalent to QF domestic J. So, no Y+. But your point is taken. There can't be many rows of the premium class. I wonder if these figures are for 788 or -9, as I have heard JQ -8s will return to mainline when -9s become available. I think the eventual JQ fleet will be mainly -9s. Even at 9-abreast, it's pretty cramped fitting 311 into a 788. Certainly possible, but doesn't sound too pleasant for a 10hr flight.
in the future, when you put airport codes, could you use uppercase? the rollover feature is not smart enough to handle lowercase airport codes.
thanks.
ps - what is SGN? I'm assuming Saigon, and I'll know for sure as soon as I post this
Apologies. I was typing in a mad rush, and wasn't paying much attention. I also didn't realise that information on airport codes only worked when they were in caps.
I think the interesting part in all of this is where QF mainline will add services now that AO's B767's come offline, as willl perhaps the B747's operating to HNL etc...