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Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11  
User currently offlineQF744 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3612 times:

Jetstar International are set to announce to announce their routes at a press conference in Melbourne on Tuesday morning (9.30 am 11th April).

Any tips on the routes? I'm thinking Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, Hawaii, Indonesia initially, and possibly even India.

QF744


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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

I think the routes in the intial stages will be pretty clear cut.

jetstar to take over some AO routes from cairnss, while others are handed back to QF for a little while.

I would also assume jetstar will operate mel/syd to bali.

from melbourne, there is a clear need for bangkok flights. honolulu is also an obvious market.

from sydney i think jetstar will take over qantas flights to honolulu. that should be a given. perhaps vietnam, although the vietnam airlines codeshare continues.

if the above is done, that pretty much uses up all 4-6 aircraft.
these markets are all existing, or where the qantas group already has a presence.

pretty low risk strategy if u ask me.


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

geez, i was pretty close to the mark...

for those that are interested... announced this morning:

3pw syd-hnl [replace QF]
2pw syd-bali [replace AO]
3pw syd-phuket [new, although AO operated some charters last year]
3pw syd-sgn [new services. compete with VN. i wonder what will happen on the codeshare agreement there].

2pw mel-hnl [new services]
2pw mel-bali [replace AO]
3pw mel-bkk [new services. breaks TG monopoly]

daily syd-kix-bne-syd. [i mentioned this in a post a few months back. QF claims these to be new for the QF Group, but they will effectively replace JAL on the same sector. JAL was going to suspend in March 2006, but said it would continue and 'review' the situation in late 2006. this is the solution].

Very low risk strategy if you ask me.

Also, AO finishes in July 2006. However, most AO services ex-CNS maintained, operated on a wet-lease basis between AO and QF. QF aircraft, with AO cabin crew, and about 20% lower operating costs than if QF operated.

Interesting times...


User currently offlineJupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 890 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

SYD/HNL is not replacing QF, it is in addition to the QF flights.

Though I would suspect QF will down grade from 743 to 763.

RL


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5629 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2):
3pw syd-hnl [replace QF]

No, this is in addational to QF's current three services, giving 6 weekly from SYD and two weekly from MEL.

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2):
3pw mel-bkk [new services. breaks TG monopoly]

Not mentioned in press release, source? Is there a second one?


Press release: http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn...details?ArticleID=2006/apr06/Q3418

Gemuser



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User currently offlineJupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 890 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3294 times:

Gemuser,

I also saw it mentioned in one of the press releases, there has been at least 3.

RL


User currently onlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2742 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

Perhaps the most interesting thing for me in that press release is both a month for 787 delivery to Jetstar Int'l - August 2008, but also a preliminary seat count - 311. That must mean an entirely y configuration, perhaps with a few rows of y+.

Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21502 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3252 times:

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2):
geez, i was pretty close to the mark...

yep. good call.

in the future, when you put airport codes, could you use uppercase? the rollover feature is not smart enough to handle lowercase airport codes.

thanks.

ps - what is SGN? I'm assuming Saigon, and I'll know for sure as soon as I post this...  Wink



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User currently offlineQF744 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

All those routes are confirmed are on Jetstar.com also

Interesting news...



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User currently offlineDalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 6):
Perhaps the most interesting thing for me in that press release is both a month for 787 delivery to Jetstar Int'l - August 2008, but also a preliminary seat count - 311. That must mean an entirely y configuration, perhaps with a few rows of y+.

The 2-class operation will have a J-class equivalent to QF domestic J. So, no Y+. But your point is taken. There can't be many rows of the premium class. I wonder if these figures are for 788 or -9, as I have heard JQ -8s will return to mainline when -9s become available. I think the eventual JQ fleet will be mainly -9s. Even at 9-abreast, it's pretty cramped fitting 311 into a 788. Certainly possible, but doesn't sound too pleasant for a 10hr flight.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4634 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
ps - what is SGN? I'm assuming Saigon, and I'll know for sure as soon as I post this...

Yeah, Ho Chi Minh City, the city formerly known as Saigon. It'll always be Saigon to me...



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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 4):
No, this is in addational to QF's current three services, giving 6 weekly from SYD and two weekly from MEL.

I wonder how long this will last?? I have no doubt that within two years the sector will be handed over entirely to Jetstar

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
yep. good call.

in the future, when you put airport codes, could you use uppercase? the rollover feature is not smart enough to handle lowercase airport codes.

thanks.

ps - what is SGN? I'm assuming Saigon, and I'll know for sure as soon as I post this

Apologies. I was typing in a mad rush, and wasn't paying much attention. I also didn't realise that information on airport codes only worked when they were in caps.


I think the interesting part in all of this is where QF mainline will add services now that AO's B767's come offline, as willl perhaps the B747's operating to HNL etc...


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2952 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

JQ announced SYD-KIX-BNE-SYD.
Will this mean the end to JL/JO as it's the same routing currently flown?


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4634 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 12):
JQ announced SYD-KIX-BNE-SYD.
Will this mean the end to JL/JO as it's the same routing currently flown?

No-one knows, maybe when JAL enter oneworld it will go.



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