QANTAS077 From China, joined Jan 2004, 5751 posts, RR: 48 Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14847 times:
MEDIA ALERT
QANTAS GROUP ANNOUNCEMENT
QANTAS, JETSTAR, AUSTRALIAN AIRLINES
INTERNATIONAL ROUTE NETWORK
Tuesday, 11 April 2006
9.30 am
Media are invited to attend a media conference with the Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Mr Geoff Dixon, and the Chief Executive of Jetstar, Mr Alan Joyce. Media conference to commence at 9.30 am
Jetstar Head Office
Level 2, 473 Bourke Street, Melbourne
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Jc2354 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 542 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14659 times:
Quoting QANTAS077 (Thread starter): Media are invited to attend a media conference with the Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Mr Geoff Dixon, and the Chief Executive of Jetstar
With Qantas and Jetstar being there, i bet they are going to annouce some route changes. Isn't Qantas using Australian as the LCC carrier for international routes?
Jc2354 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 542 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14442 times:
Why would they close down Australian? i thought it was doing very well, and passengers enjoy the flight
ClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4528 posts, RR: 25 Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 14090 times:
Quoting Jc2354 (Reply 8): Why would they close down Australian? i thought it was doing very well, and passengers enjoy the flight
It's the only part of the Qantas Group flight operations departments that is constantly making a loss. A lot of that has been due to bad luck though with things like the Bali bombings and the tsunami etc...
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
Sydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 2395 posts, RR: 18 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 14058 times:
Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 7): Guess: Australian disappears as a brand, becomes JetStar International right away so that QF can "launch" JQ International earlier than expected
Here is a first report. AO is being re-absorbed by the Qantas mainline operation and AO aircraft will be re-painted into QF colours as their interiors are put back into 2 class configuration.
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3055 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13957 times:
Quoting Sydscott (Reply 10): Here is a first report. AO is being re-absorbed by the Qantas mainline operation and AO aircraft will be re-painted into QF colours as their interiors are put back into 2 class configuration.
It'll be a few hours yet before we get news of JQ Internationals initial routes.
They say in that press release they will keep the Cairns base, but the aircraft will revert back to standard QF 763s. Does that mean QF will now fly AO's old routes? Or will JQ eventually take over those toutes? Or are the routes themselves, done for?
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9705 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13957 times:
I don´t get it. Why don´t they make Australian do what Jetstar shall do in the future? Why the new brand? Shame, the vibrant Australian livery looks better than Jetstars...
ClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4528 posts, RR: 25 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13847 times:
Quoting NA (Reply 13): I don´t get it. Why don´t they make Australian do what Jetstar shall do in the future? Why the new brand? Shame, the vibrant Australian livery looks better than Jetstars...
The cost of the Australian Airlines employees is higher than the Jetstar employees. Jetstar is also the much more well known brand within Australia, so it's an easy decision really.
Quoting 777STL (Reply 12): They say in that press release they will keep the Cairns base, but the aircraft will revert back to standard QF 763s. Does that mean QF will now fly AO's old routes? Or will JQ eventually take over those toutes? Or are the routes themselves, done for?
I don't know... my guess would be that a portion of Jetstar international will base in Cairns and continue flying the some of the routes with the A332s.
The 767s will go back to QF mainline to replace the 332s that are being lost to Jetstar.
I feel that the big picture QF plan is to have Jetstar fly previously unprofitable routes (as has been announced) in order to develop the routes enough to be profitable to Qantas and then Qantas go back on the route. Another guess of course.
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
QANTAS077 From China, joined Jan 2004, 5751 posts, RR: 48 Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 9351 times:
as per usual everything is east coast orientated, considering those leisure routes are very popular from Perth i'm suprised that nothing has been scheduled for the west. seems only Bali will eventually come online from the west.
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Aussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1765 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9203 times:
Quite clever - AO remains (so QF still get their cost benefits) but for the average punter and for the purposes of brand, it just looks like any other Qantas flight. I wonder if this will create any frictions between staff who are paid varying amounts for doing the same job?
On a more technical note on this issue, does this mean the flight will be badged "Qantas operated by Australian Airlines" just like the current "Qantaslink operated by Eastern Australia Airlines"?
Sydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 2395 posts, RR: 18 Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9142 times:
Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 17): considering those leisure routes are very popular from Perth i'm suprised that nothing has been scheduled for the west
Why?? Jetstar barely flies to Perth how it is and, especially to Bali/Indonesia, there are plenty of options to get there. Besides which you may find some sort of arrangement emerge between Jetstar and Jetstar Asia to operate through services to Bali in the future. I'd see it as an obvious linkage point for Perth and would allow for the transfer of A320's between JQ Asia and JQ Australia.
I'm somewhat surprised that a city, such as Osaka, doesn't warrant business class from Sydney as I'd have thought there would be sufficient demand for it versus Cairns??
ATLflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 720 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8839 times:
"The Jetstar fleet will transition to the 311-seat Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft - part of Qantas' $20 billion fleet reinvestment program - from August 2008."
311 seats in a 787-8? They really are going to pack them in there aren't they?
Centrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3597 posts, RR: 21 Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8683 times:
So it said that Qantas will serve Nagoya and Tokyo. I was thinking that Jetstar would do this. So does this mean I will have mainline QF planes in NGO again?
Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
Atmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 39 Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8431 times:
Quoting ATLflyer (Reply 20): 311 seats in a 787-8? They really are going to pack them in there aren't they?
Sounds like one or two class with a small premium section and a very large
economy section in 9 abreast.
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Jupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 762 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8340 times:
Actually SYD/HNL is 3 weekly, MEL/HNL 2 weekly and the mainline QF 3 weekly is maintained, just a slight increase in capacity !!!!
Intersting moves especially the SYD/KIX/BNE/SYD routing, I would imagine when this commences, (MAR 'O7) that will spell the demise of the JL flight doing the same route.
CRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8340 times:
It's sad to see AO disappear but I wish JQ the best of luck. Good to see more B763's in QF colors though, but at a loss to the AO colors.
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25 QANTAS077: really, with AO gone Perth people will have one direct option to Bali and that's Garuda and a 3 times weekly service to Jakarta with Qantas. hardly c
26 BoeingFever777: Official press release from Qantas. http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn...details?ArticleID=2006/apr06/Q3418
27 Wunala: JL already pulling out or pulled out of that route. Wonder will JQ become a OneWorld partner now?
28 Jupiter2: Wunala, No JL haven't yet, it was discussed and got a stay of execution. I would suspect that JQ has become the executioner. I would also suspect that
29 Kiwiandrew: any theories as to why QF is still going to retain SYD-HNL services as well? seems an expensive duplication to a low yield market
30 Jupiter2: No idea mate !!! Makes about as much sense as all 3 QF brands flying between SYD and CNS as they do at present. I can see it being down graded to a 76
31 Pilotdude09: So jetstar international wont actually start flying till next year from what i gather is that right? QF better still operate the 743 HNL-SYD in Decemb
33 Jbguller: Such a shame. It was a shame when Australian got absorbed back in the '90s, and it's a shame now. Such a gorgeous company with gorgeous aircraft, with
34 ClassicLover: I imagine once JL move into oneworld, this is exactly what will happen. None. European destinations will be much further down the track. November 200
35 Humberside: I see Gold Coast will loose its AO service (QF replacement will be from Brisbane) and also Cairns-HKG service will stop
36 Sydscott: It's daily service is it not?? The QF service will merely replace the AO one so capacity remains the same. Probably because there is sufficient premi
37 AeroWesty: I keep reading that Hawaii is a low-yield market, despite this theory being debunked many times over. On average, the cost per mile between SYD-HNL i
39 Wedgetail737: And the A350 would have been any better??
40 SunriseValley: Where does it say they are getting the 8's ? They could be getting the 9's. The -8's seat 224 in 3-class and 296 in 2-class ; the -9 seats 259 in 3-c
41 Ha763: Does the addition of JQ allow QF to get around the 4x minimum weekly service requirement of the US-Aus bilateral? Right now both HA and QF fly HNL-SY
42 Thebry: Hmmm... that took a while. 37 civilized replies before this took a turn toward the negative. A new record?
43 Sydscott: Since when did he say, or even imply, that?? You Boeing freaks are all far too touchy on this board nowadays. I'd say, quite justifiably, that 311 pe
44 Flyer88: Sorry to see Australian go but congratulations to Jetstar. I have some questions about Jetstar International. Will they be part of Oneworld? Can an al
45 ATLflyer: "The Jetstar fleet will transition to the 311-seat Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft - part of Qantas' $20 billion fleet reinvestment program - from Aug
46 ClassicLover: No, they won't be a part of oneworld. However... at the moment you can earn QF points on Jetstar if you fly on full fare tickets. You can also redeem
47 Wunala: Not sure as Star Class is a premium economy class, not business. The 4 from QF will return to mainline, not sure about the other 2. It will be intere
48 ClassicLover: Whoops, pardon me... international will be Economy and Premium Economy... they won't have business class! Forgot all about that. My mind is hard wire
50 Danny: It's supposed to be 8 abreast so yes most likely will.
51 Sydscott: You'll probably find that it'll earn the same points as a full fare economy ticket on Qantas mainline. I doubt they'll be giving out Business Class p
52 Jupiter2: HA763, The 4 per week in the bi-lateral means a min of 4 per week between the 2 countries, not just one route. I believe QF operate currently operate
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