PHLBOS From United States, joined Mar 2004, 5546 posts, RR: 28 Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 15304 times:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 4): Wish they'd do the Allegheny-US Air 1977-1990 orange/red/silver livery as well. I know many hate it but I think it's groovy.
The livery that you speak of (which first rolled out in 1975 BTW) under the AL name was never silver; that happened after the changeover to USAir in 1979.
AirframeAS From United States, joined Feb 2004, 9973 posts, RR: 32 Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 15288 times:
Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 6): I wish they'd do a Mohawk retrojet
US is only doing the special Heritage planes under the last 4 airlines that currently make up the NEW US Airways. This has been discussed before in different threads.
The Mohawk livery will NEVER happen.
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Rampkontroler From United States, joined Sep 2001, 810 posts, RR: 17 Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15182 times:
Awww, man....Is this the best they can do with the Allegheny livery? That's too bad, because it could have been done so much better. We were hoping for something more like this:
Lindy Field From United States, joined Mar 2001, 2951 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15182 times:
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Looks to me like they could have done a much nicer job with this livery had they paid more attention to how it appeared originally. The cheatline seems much too thick towards the tail and the tail logo is far too small.
Airwave From United States, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 15 Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15121 times:
Quoting AnMCOSon (Thread starter): Looks pretty good, can't wait to see the Piedmont livery.
I agree that the disproportionately large black nose throws it off, but still, I'd rather have it than no heritage livery at all.
Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 7): Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 4):
Wish they'd do the Allegheny-US Air 1977-1990 orange/red/silver livery as well. I know many hate it but I think it's groovy.
The livery that you speak of (which first rolled out in 1975 BTW) under the AL name was never silver; that happened after the changeover to USAir in 1979.
And what's more, we already have the orangey PSA heritage livery flying about...no sense confusing the two, lol.
Flaps From United States, joined Feb 2000, 755 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14981 times:
Probably the worst heritage/reto livery I've seen. I had been excited to see this one too. I grew up with Allegheny and that livery rendition does NOTHING to evoke any nostalagia in me. The PSA one was much better. It's a simple one color stripe for heavens sake, you would think that they could have gotten better proportioning. Typical US I'm afraid. A day late, a dollar short and very half-a$$ed.
USPIT10L From United States, joined Mar 2006, 2626 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14946 times:
US really, really dropped the ball on this one. I've never heard anyone in PIT get nostalgic about Allegheny. When I think of Allegheny/USAir, I think of the white/silver livery with the red, brown and burnt orange tail. The original livery on the DC9s doesn't do it for me, and even that looked better than what US Airways came up with. I just hope the Piedmont scheme is better.
Quoting Rampkontroler (Reply 11): Awww, man....Is this the best they can do with the Allegheny livery? That's too bad, because it could have been done so much better. We were hoping for something more like this:
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My sentiments exactly...What the hell were they thinking of..where is the red stripe and just the large logo on the tail? Someone fell asleep at the flaps on this one. Besides-they should have carried the AL name right onto the fuselage.....it's an abomination of the name and heritage. Horriffic!
Airwave From United States, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 15 Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14928 times:
Quoting Flaps (Reply 15): It's a simple one color stripe for heavens sake, you would think that they could have gotten better proportioning. Typical US I'm afraid. A day late, a dollar short and very half-a$$ed.
Y'know, I was looking at the pics again and I'm thinking that when we get shots that are from a more elevated perspective (as in the PSA pic), it'll look better.
Personally, I've never liked any of the A320 family from below like that...it just feels like it has very bad proportions. I think maybe that has something to do with the reactions thus far. Well, that and that honking huge black nose...
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SBN580 From United States, joined Mar 2005, 401 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14928 times:
Kind of disappointing. The tail logo is too small. Looks like the one that appeared on some Allegheny props. It would have also been nice to have put the Allegheny arrow on the end of the winglet assembly instead of the US logo. Kudos to adding the Vistajet marking and the VJ in the registration number. I have to say that really it looks like a test market for a new US livery. And may I say that and the PSA, and the Piedmont will all look better that the navy and battleship grey. Out of 5, PSA gets a four (the smile may be a little thin, but a thin smile is better than none), Allegheny a 2.5.
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Pawsleykat From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jul 2005, 1808 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14798 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 1): The plane looks ugly. It would have been suited better on a 733 or 752, IMO.
It must be summat about the A319. The paint job makes the A320 look, what's that word?...., weird. I think an older jet would look a bit better, the 737-300 perhaps, nothing newer than that. (puts foot down) I think it's because the A319 is a modern jet (it's like the same age as me, what, 14?) I just don't get how a new jet suits an old(ish) paint job. Maybe it's just me.
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Alitalia744 From United States, joined Mar 2000, 4310 posts, RR: 48 Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14779 times:
Quoting Flight7E7 (Reply 17): My sentiments exactly...What the hell were they thinking of..where is the red stripe and just the large logo on the tail?
AviatorTJ From United States, joined Jul 2003, 1804 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 14737 times:
Considering I never saw any of the heritage airlines as old as I am and being from MSP, I think these look good and I look forward to photographing them. That said, this Allegheny livery could use some larger titles on the tail, and an actual polished bottom (not possible on the bus). For what we have to work with, this will look damn good parked next to the other US Airways planes.
Junction From United States, joined Mar 2005, 610 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 14698 times:
Quoting Flight7E7 (Reply 17): it's an abomination of the name and heritage. Horriffic!
Since both the PSA and Alleghany livery is obviously not an exact match of the original, I have a theory that perhaps US is not allowed to have an exact match? Or maybe there are no templates left anywhere to have an exact match? Someone who works at US must have an answer as to why these heritage liveries are slightly off. I do like them anyway though by the way.
FCYTravis From United States, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 9 Reply 25, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14479 times:
Wow... a company takes time and money to repaint aircraft in vanished color schemes and all people here can do is bitch and moan that it's not exactly completely 100% perfect?
1. All the heritage planes will say "US Airways" in the title area. Period.
2. As HPRamper pointed out, they're not going to paint 733s in the heritage schemes because the 733s are a rapidly vanishing breed.
3. Y'all can start complaining when United does a 100% accurate Capitol scheme, American does AirCal and Reno Air aircraft, Delta does a Western jet, Continental does old-school Frontier and PEOPLExpress, Northwest comes out with Republic and North Central... etc. etc. etc. Yeah, don't hold your breath or anything, though.
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26 N766UA: I'm disappointed. That plane only bears a passing resemblance to the original Allegheny scheme. It's too half-assed looking, especially the tail.
27 SBN580: Then again, I've always thought all Airbuses looked a little...weird. This is probably more likely the case. The templates had to totally be made ane
28 ERJ170: Sorry.. but that is very un-attractive.. I very much agree.. US should have used a 734. It just looks stumpy and wrong. AND the Alleghany logo is WAY
29 HS748: Absolutely horrible, just like the others!
30 F9Animal: It does not fit well on the airbus! It needs the bare metal feel, and it would be a good looking bird on a 737 or 757 for sure. If your going to honor
31 USADreamliner: I can imagine some people freaking out, saying : that's an old airplane!! I don't want to fly on that thing!!! I like it and I would like to see it on
32 F9Animal: One other thing! At least the CEO is willing to bring back the memories though! What a cool idea, and certainly a memory booster! Wish NWA would bring
33 Jmc1975: Did anyone mention the 737s are being retired? If they painted the livery on a 737, that would be a sure way of getting rid of the Allegheny retro li
34 ERJ170: Those 734 won't be retired for quite a while.. at the least they will be around for the next 5 years.. that is plenty of time as I believe these live
35 SBN580: Don't hold your breath. I don't want to see NWA putting NC or RW on their planes! After they snatched ol' historic North Central DC-3 "728" from the
36 Jmc1975: Did Doug Parker tell you that himself?
39 Ca2ohHP: It was in our weekly newsletter from March 31 I believe. There was a specific question about paint schedules.
40 Columba: Agreed - I am really looking forward to the Piedmont livery as well. The livery would look better if the aircraft would have the IAE V2500 engines in
41 EMBQA: Was that done by AvEx in New Iberia, LA...??
43 DeltaRules: Not too good, IMO. For me, it's not that it's not "exactly right", it just doesn't look good. Maybe it'll take some time to grow on me, though. I didn
44 Icebird757: There are already photos posted on "the other site" from Uncle Jay.
45 AviatorTJ: Is US using brighter colors on the planes to liven things up? It seems on the past two throwback liveries that the colors are a lot different than the
46 UAL#1fan: Looks great. Now that US, AA, and DL have painted at least one jet in a heritage livery (OK for DL the plane was headed to retirement), the time has c
47 AirframeAS: I'll give you points for the creativity and the vivid imagination, PHLBOS! Keep in mind, bro...that this isnt the same US that is controlling the com
48 JBo: When did they yank the DC-3 out of the Henry Ford? I was there about a year and a half ago and there was the classic NW DC-3 standing as the entrance
49 WesternA318: Oh man, that'd be the day. If that ever happened, I'd be the first out to STL or DFW with the camera and 9 rolls of film!
50 CRGsFuture: Looks pretty nice. I'm liking the colors.
51 VSMike: Awwww... that's a pity. Plane looks horrible... what a letdown. Makes the 319 look like a Tupolev, or something... Oh well... 2 more Heritage planes t
52 AirframeAS: There is one Heritage plane left to come: Piedmont.
53 Cadet57: When are they gonna come to BDL, darnit! Im spotting there on the 17th and I want to get shots of atleast one of them!
54 Airwave: Haha, that it does. I wonder what it'd look like with antlers...? Does US sponsor any MLS teams or something? Maybe they could pull an LH and have so
55 Worldflyer: Sorry but this heritage/retro livery is a big disappointment. If they were going to use the blue cheatline livery they should have used the more popul
57 Sspontak: I guess we should give them some credt for at least doing the Allegheny livery even though the stripe is too wide the the tail logo/name too small. I
59 Jamake1: Having worked for PSA, I was rather impressed with the PSA retrojet, inspite of the fact that the smile was a bit thin. Overall, it wasn't a bad appli
60 Jetpixx: Something is better than nothing...I like this Allegheny scheme, although I agree with some of the posters about certain flaws. However, it is what it
62 SBN580: A little longer than that. 728 was in bad shape. The bright side is that it was restored at all. I think it would have just completely fallen apart e
63 Mke717spotter: Hey thats actually pretty cool I think. They look good on the A319 as well.
64 DTW757: Couldn't have said it better myself! Is this airplane at DTW? I remember it sitting outside the back windows of the Henry Ford a while ago. It's been
65 JAGflyer: I like it! I think it looks very stylish yet basic and not overly busy.
66 Steeler83: I agree with that one as well. Me too. I am not all that crazy about the paint scheme, but the font was far out! I would have gone with a couple of s
67 LGA777: Here are a couple of photo's compliments of Jay Selman from this morning in CLT ! Regards LGA777
68 USPIT10L: Those are better pictures. Yes, it does look better. I've seen plenty of pictures of the old, old AL colors. I recant my statement above, although I
69 727LOVER: That's cool that they used the VJ reg. What was this aircraft's reg?
70 Airwave: Very nice! Agreed--much better look to it. What a difference a shift in perspective can have. Airwave
71 SWA TPA: So when does the Piedmont bird get to grace the skies? That is the one I am really looking forward to! Piedmont was and still is a favorite of mine SW
72 DTW757: I hope it wont be on a 320. I would imagine they probably still have Piedmont 737's around there.
73 Jmc1975: At the end of April. It won't. It'll be an A319. Ship number 744.
74 LGA777: The Piedmont bird will be rr to N744P and is scheduled to enter service on 4-27. I think the Piedmont bird will draw a lot less negative comments than
75 A340Spotter: This was N745UW. This will become N744P when it adorns the Piedmont colors. The HP heritage scheme will be the original white/blue stripe color schem
76 AirframeAS: JMC1975: What plane WERE you talking about? That's the only HP Heritage livery and will be the ONLY one.
77 F9Animal: That is all? 9 rolls? LOL! I would have 2 cameras, a camcorder, and 2 days worth of meals for the day that happens! You are beyond correct. They insu
78 Goodbye: Just a slightly O/T question... is Allegheny a place or something? I've heard of the airline, just wondering where they were from etc...
80 Antoniemey: I think the word you're looking for is stubby. It doesn't look as good as the PSA plane does, but still, it's better than a lot of the liveries flyin
81 Etops1: i just got an e-mail from tempe that they know about the logo and it will be fixed. also the smile on the psa bird will be widened. hope this helps.
82 Cadet57: Its a mountain rage going from penn thru W.va and other states. The origional airline formed, IIRC in PIT where the Allegheny's are hence the name
83 Ewmahle: I know that they are phasing out the 737s over the next few years, but if I think US Airways, I think 737. To me it is there Heritage Airplane, so may
84 Tom in NO: The large "USAIRWAYS" lettering make both the PSA and Allengheny paint jobs look terrible. They should have put "USAIRWAYS" in small script by the L1
85 SlamClick: And a significant river. The Allegheny and Monongahela rivers join at Pittsburgh (hence Three Rivers Stadium) to form the Ohio River, one of America'
86 LGA777: Here's a cool Bob Garrard photo from 1967 that I linked in another thread in ref to the Allegheny Heritage scheme. This short term leased DC9-14 was t
87 USPIT10L: What became Allegheny Airlines was not formed in Pittsburgh, but its operational base was here until recently. The Allegheny name came from the mount
88 AviationAddict: I like it! I think it looked better on the old DC-9's with that silver bottom, but it's still a very tasteful paint job. I hope US keeps these heritag
89 Mah584jr: I saw the plane today in PHL. It landed at 4:51pm and took off at 6:26pm. I didn't think it looked too bad. It definitely stood out around all the dar
90 Etops1: these planes will be in these colors permanently.. trust me on this one.
91 Steeler83: I thought that Allegheny was originally All-American Aviation back in the late 1930s and 1940s, and then became Allegheny sometime in the middle 1960
94 Bridogger6: Hahaha oh stop messing with everyone!
95 Captaink: I dunno, maybe my taste sucks, but i think that livery looks rather splendid. I am loving these blasts from the past. Everyone around me likes it too.
96 HermansCVR580: Hey I want my Northwest/North Central A-319 I know NWA pretty much chewed Herman up and spit him out and pissed on him, but I'd like to see a North Ce
97 Asturias: I like this Allegheny heritage livery. It looks really good on that Airbus US Airways deserves much credit for bringing such tasteful and classic live
98 AnMCOSon: Thanks for posting those, they do look better from a different perspective. Yeah, I was hoping there would be better pictures of it. These pictures w
99 HPRamper: Incorrect. It is already flying, it represents the last livery, and there will not be a heritage aircraft in the old HP colors. Why would anybody wan
100 Airwave: No big deal. I'm not faulting the pics, the photographer, or even the messenger, lol. It's only that I think the plane and the livery would look bett
101 WesternA318: And what pre tell is wrong with hockey? lol Look Animal, i was groggy and just outta bed! If there ever was a TWA unveiling, I'd bring ALL my memorab
102 AviatorTJ: Heritage livery previews: http://www.americawest.com/awa/conte...profile/usair/livery_heritage.aspx Food for thought. Although, another Cactus throwba
103 Airwave: Hahaha, absolutely nothing. Well, except for the Flyers' conference ranking... You know, now that I think about it, this plane looks 1000% better whe
104 Leon8828: Hey AnMCOSon, When were you in New Iberia, Louisiana? I saw the plane yesterday when I was at Acadiana Regional. I didn't have my camera with me thoug
105 Jmc1975: We'll just have to see about that on August 1st now, won't we?
106 MajorNelson: Bravo for the effort! BUT - to me (having grown up in a city served by AL Convair 580s in the 60s/70s , THIS is the definitive AL livery that they mig
107 Steeler83: Oh, crap... I think I made a post containing falacious content!!! aaaargh... Yeah, just from looking at the above pic, I don't think that the Convair
108 Antoniemey: I think an alternative solution would have been to put the "US Airways" into the font styles and colors that the previous companies used. (So, for ex
109 Steeler83: I happen to like this thought... Although you know how ppl wondered why no 80s retro version, I am not sure of what to think should they use your sch
110 Airwave: Or we could dress it up with platform shoes and muttonchops...maybe redo the interior in a nice pastel salmon pink? Airwave
111 AirframeAS: HPRamper: thanks for backin' me up. Jmc1975: my instructor, who is one of the chief inspectors at HP/US tells me the one pic I showed you in HP herita
112 Steeler83: Then we could fire Doug Parker and hire Bob Barker and Gene Reyburn as the CEO and Co-CEO or something!!! It already would look like something from T
113 JBo: So then which DC-3 is the one in the Ford? It's painted in NW colors, but sadly none of my pictures show the tail number.
114 Airwave: Two words: shag carpet....everywhere! Airwave Edited to make minor grammar corrections so a nun doesn't pop up and smack my knuckles. [Edited 2006-04
115 Steeler83: Of course, I can dig it You never may know when a mob of ruler-carrying knick-knack laddy-whack-happy penguins will pop out of nowhere to terror
116 HPRamper: Sorry for the vagueness of my post. I mean the last livery carried on HP aircraft, not the last heritage livery period. They still have not unveiled
117 Airwave: D00d, you have no idea--there are nuns *everywhere*. They're like Jedi or ninjas or something; ready to pop out with sharp pointy red pens, marking u
118 Steeler83: I had a nun for a substitute teacher... What a pain in the ass... A royal one at that... and they're supposed to be heavenly? Nothing heavenly about
119 Airwave: I've got two in the family, one on each side, so I'm covered, lol. Actually, one of my bestest best friends from pre- through high school entered the
120 WesternA318: LOL could you imagine a Red Wings plane? (Oh wait, there was one, a DC-9 at one time, owned by Little Caesar's). Maybe a Mighty Ducks plane, LMAO. Hr
121 Airwave: You know, I remember when I had a decent desktop computer, two of my favorite a/c in MSFS2K3 were in Capitols and Canucks livery, lol. Still and all,
122 WesternA318: LMAO, or an A319 thats all purple with the logo on the nose, all the way around (like the STL Rams 727/757)
123 Jmc1975: Back eachother up all you want....I'm not trying to be funny. You'll just need to wait until August before you can start pointing any fingers. To you
124 A340Spotter: No, the pictures from the top are from ARA. The Avex hangars give them away. Mr. Selman's pictures are from CLT. I'm a bit confused myself, but I was
125 SBN580: That would be a GREAT museum! see my comments below Herman l'orange? Hey, Stephen Wolf cooked it. Northwest cut up and ate what was put on a platter
126 Aapilot2b: Its ok.. but could have been better. The fat and ugly A-319 just isn't working for these heritage schemes.
127 AnMCOSon: I wasn't there, these pictues were just passed around the office up here in PIT. I wish I was there though, would be pretty cool to see and smell a f
128 Airplanekid101: it looks ugly, and the tail logo is to small! just a question: why to airlines put their old colors on new planes?
129 N312RC: You people should be happy that an airline is DOING THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, so put yer moanin and groanin away.. at least theyre doing SOMETHING. PS:
130 SBN580: Here is a link to an article that describes the restoration of ship 728. Scroll down the page a bit to see it. These may be the last images of an air
131 AnMCOSon: Not all of the employees like it. Quite a few think they should be spending the money for these repaints on financial things.
132 DTW757: " target=_blank>http://www.flightminiatures.com/News....html Great story about that airplane! Thanks for the link. So it is inside now at the Henry Fo
133 JFKLGANYC: What are we all getting so excited about here? A retro, i'm sorry 'heritage', livery for 4 companies that cease to exist? Sorry to tell you, there is
134 Steeler83: Of course!!! That was funny as hell!!! And this is even better
135 PHLBOS: Not to nitpick here, but part of your statement is incorrect; although the spirit/intent of your overall message is true. While the AL Heritage liver
136 HPRamper: Now, with America West, there are several routes that match old PSA routes. LAS-SAN LAS-LAX LAS-SNA LAS-BUR LAS-SFO PHX-SFO PHX-LAX Of course, just r
137 FCYTravis: HPRamper, don't forget OAK... I have fond, fond memories of stepping aboard many a PSA MD-80 there back in the mid-1980s...
138 Steeler83: How about they just leave a couple of those planes alone; just put the US "flag" logo after the "west" and the star alliance one near the nose (if no
139 Pgv: I'm sure glad somebody else on here gets it. Ask Joe Blow next time he is on some budget-travel website lookin for a ticket to go see Aunt Bertha in
140 Steeler83: PSA, Piedmont, Allegheny, and America West all make up, or came together to make up what the current US Airways is.. PSA and Piedmont may be a sore sp
141 AviatorTJ: To those people angry about all the repaints, if there were no throwback liveries being painted you would see a lot more of these:View Large View Med
142 SBN580: Bingo. That's why we have all kinds of liveries now. Some flying billboards, which I can't stand, but they do get attention. We have the airline webs
143 WesternA318: *sigh* Then he almost did the same thing at United too.. LMAO, would you prefer Janet Reno?
144 AirframeAS: People, people, PEOPLE!!! The only HP livery as the Heritage livery will be the ONLY one from HP. Look at the heritage logo: It sports the HP orange
145 JBo: Is that so? LINK: http://www.americawest.com/awa/conte...profile/usair/livery_heritage.aspx Right there. Four planes. PSA. Allegheny. Piedmont. Ameri
146 Jmc1975: Like I've said...and I'll say it again....it is not August yet. You can't be that sure that the blue line livery won't happen. So just wait until the
147 AirframeAS: I know I said that I wouldnt post on this one particular thread anymore but this is the LAST one. So I must ask.... WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE, Mr. Jmc175?
148 Jmc1975: Correct....there is CURRENTLY no blue line livery. And the Sears Tower has 110 stories.........
149 PHLBOS: Is it me or does the tapered stripe/cheatline on the US/AL Heritage plane closely resembles the blue stripe that adorned Indiana State Police Cruisers
150 Jmc1975: At least you have the "opinion" of there being no blue stripe livery, unlike those here who state thay are absolutely certain there will be no such l
151 AviatorTJ: So, I guess this is a matter of placing our bets for whether or not additional special liveries come? Personally, I'd put money for it, but nothing re
152 PHLBOS: I've purposely put the IMHO disclaimer in there because many items in this industry can be unpredictable. For example; who knew that FL was going to
153 Jmc1975: And I am amazed that others on this thread can claim such predictablity and certainly of no blue-stripe HP livery being introduced. They just don't k
154 HPRamper: Hey, don't jinx us by posting pics of an HP 747!
155 JBo: I already asked once (as have several others) for you to quote a source. I gave my source for there being no HP classic heritage scheme....the origin
156 Jmc1975: I agree. You read the same thing I did. But nowhere in that article does it say there will not be an HP classic livery. Bingo! Proves my point even m
157 HPRamper: "US Airways is pleased to debut the third of four heritage aircraft: Allegheny Livery N745VJ. Corporate Communications is currently developing dedicat
158 Jmc1975: Yes it did! And I am glad that you take the time to read it.....many employees don't even bother.
159 PurdueAv2003: And nowhere in the article does it say they are going to cover a 319 in feathers and call it "Chicken-plane", but I doubt it will happen. I have a co
160 HPRamper: And, I've heard, a larger Allegheny logo on the tail of the new livery aircraft.
161 Jmc1975: Yes! N742PS is in PIT today getting a wider smile. It should be out flying again tomorrow afternoon. Those "sources" from US engineering would not kn
162 PHLBOS: A larger PSA smile's a fairly easy fix, but why didn't they opt for a larger AL wedge logo in the first place? If the logo's a decal (as opposed to p
163 JBo: Problem is, just as you say it is everyone's "opinion" that there will be no HP Classic livery, it is just as equally your "opinion" that there is go
164 PHLBOS: I didn't know about the moving of the cheatline. Although, looking at these four 1991 photos; not all of UA's planes received said-repositioned cheat
165 Steeler83: What's with the wider smile, are they reeeeallly reeally happy to be a part of the new US or something? (Sorry, couldn't resist!!! )
166 SkyexRamper: Thats just ugly! At the right angle it looks like a A318.
167 Zippyjet: Not too shabby. I feel, this is the best looking Barbie Jet RJ. That retro treatment brings back memories of Allegheny from back in the day. For awhil
168 SonOfACaptain: And here she is grinning a little bit bigger. -SOAC
169 CentPIT: Wow! They are actually doing something in PIT.
170 WesternA318: And WHAT pre tell is wrong with the A318?
171 Jmc1975: Come August 1st, you can be the judge.
172 AirframeAS: Out of curiousity, Mr JMC1975: where did you come up with this one particular date? Where is your *BLEEPING* SOURCE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Either you provid
173 Jmc1975: Consider the source. August 1st IS the day for HP heritage livery celebration. It just happens to be the day that would have been America West's 23rd
174 AirframeAS: A website link? A press release link? Care to add one?? Dont look at me, Im not the one who isnt providing sources. Hmm I wonder who ISNT providing s
175 SonOfACaptain: As reported in "About US", there will be some changes to the Allegheny plane. 1.) The logo on the tail will be enlarged. 2.) The blue strip across the
176 Flyboyaz: Yeah I just read that...good move on their part. They are also asking people to write in about the Piedmont plane..making sure it doesn't happen again
177 Cityguy: I think it is insulting to make a great American name in Aviation live again on an Airbus!
179 Flyboyaz: I don't see how that matters...Allegheny had BAC aircraft....
180 JBo: What source? There is no source. That's what we're asking you to provide. What qualifies you to be an official source requiring no outside documentat
181 AirframeAS: I hope youre joking. While I agree that some of the liveries could be put on different types of aircraft, thats not the point. The point is that the
182 Steeler83: Agreed one hundred percent here! Unfortunately some people cannot see this...
183 Alitalia744: The 747s never got the treatment with the cheatlines but did get the enlarged titles. Similar reason for UALs current livery being slightly modified
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I agree that the disproportionately large black nose throws it off, but still, I'd rather have it than no heritage livery at all.
Kind of disappointing. The tail logo is too small. Looks like the one that appeared on some Allegheny props. It would have also been nice to have put the Allegheny arrow on the end of the winglet assembly instead of the US logo. Kudos to adding the Vistajet marking and the VJ in the registration number. I have to say that really it looks like a test market for a new US livery. And may I say that and the PSA, and the Piedmont will all look better that the navy and battleship grey. Out of 5, PSA gets a four (the smile may be a little thin, but a thin smile is better than none), Allegheny a 2.5..gif){kind=small}
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I think an older jet would look a bit better, the 737-300 perhaps, nothing newer than that. (puts foot down) I think it's because the A319 is a modern jet (it's like the same age as me, what, 14?) I just don't get how a new jet suits an old(ish) paint job. Maybe it's just me. 
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