Lazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 550 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10810 times:
Just adding up all the previous orders, e.g.IB, SAA, VS, and take off how many have been delivereed, how many are left for each of these airlines?
How many did QR order and how many are EK maybe ordering?
It's not always totally accurate, but it gives you a very good overview over every Airbus model.
If you check the A340-600 on the Airbus website (http://www.airbus.com/en/aircraftfamilies/a330a340/a340-600/), total orders and deliveries for the model were once listed there as well. But at least in my browser the box "Orders and Deliveries" on the left of the page is still there, but the figures are gone... Very strange...
Lazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10647 times:
Thanks for that link, Leftshoe. I always found it hard to find an up-to-date orders/deliveries page on Airbus's site.
According to them IB have 1 left, SAA have none left and VS have 10, which I beleive they ordered about 4 or 5 months ago, and Thai have 2 A340 left, but I don't know if they are -500 or -600??
I could not find any info about the number of A346 QR ordered, can someone update me?
As a summary Airbus have 11 left to deliver, excluding QR's order.
Cruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1002 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 10252 times:
Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 4): Cruiser, yes it does. Did AC order a346? definatly not a345?
AC did order both the A345 ( x 2) and A346 ( x 3). There were some issues with the original order and Airbus put the order on hold indefinately. I cannot remember or find the exact reasons for it happening, but AC is able to cancel these planes without any penalty.
Quoting N328KF (Reply 5):
They have been cancelled for over a year. Strange that they're not off the books yet.
Some believe that they will remain on the books until the 777's actually begin arriving. Don't plan on these ever getting built though!
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PM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 7078 posts, RR: 63
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8116 times:
Thanks. My own figures are a little different. Going by published orders and commitments minus planes already built and flying, I get...
Emirates (18 x A346 + 2 to be leased from ILFC) (*)
Virgin Atlantic Airways (12 x A346)
Lufthansa (7 x A346)
Aerolineas Argentinas (6 x A346) (**)
Etihad Airways (3 x A345 + 4 A346)
4 Qatar Airways (4 x A346)
VIP (1 x A346)
Thai Airways International (2 x A345)
Iberia (1 x A346)
TOTAL : 4 A345 + 55 A346 = 59
(*) There's doubt over the status of all of these EK 'orders' and they've all been deferred in any case. There must be a question mark over whether any of these 20 (18? Fewer?) will ever be built.
(**) There must be still more doubt that these will ever be built.
I've written off the three Air Canada planes - whatever Airbus still have on their website.
Otherwise, it seems likely that all the others above will fly.
If they do - and if (IF!) there are NO MORE ORDERS for the A345 or A346 - the production run will be...
A345 Total 26
Air Canada 2
Qatar Government 1
A346 Total 87
China Eastern 5
An order from Qatar for another 20 or so would change things but that's far from guaranteed.
Otherwise, Airbus can pretty much bank on 113 A345/A346s flying but not necessarily any more.
Compare that to 35 777-200LR orders and 189 777-300ER orders. You might, debatably, count 60 777-300 orders in there, too, since the A340-600 is the closest match to that airfame. Also, while not a passenger aircraft, there are 23 777 Freighter orders to help R&D amortization for the -200LR/-300ER.
[Edited 2006-04-12 16:02:04]
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