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How Many A340-600 Currently On Order?  
User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 549 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10690 times:

Just adding up all the previous orders, e.g.IB, SAA, VS, and take off how many have been delivereed, how many are left for each of these airlines?
How many did QR order and how many are EK maybe ordering?

Thanks for any replies...


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User currently offlineLeftshoe From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10619 times:

Airbus has a very comprehensive orders&deliveries spreadsheet.

Just go to http://www.airbus.com/en/corporate/orders_and_deliveries/ , scroll to the bottom of the page and use the link provided there.

It's not always totally accurate, but it gives you a very good overview over every Airbus model.

If you check the A340-600 on the Airbus website (http://www.airbus.com/en/aircraftfamilies/a330a340/a340-600/), total orders and deliveries for the model were once listed there as well. But at least in my browser the box "Orders and Deliveries" on the left of the page is still there, but the figures are gone... Very strange...


User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10527 times:

Thanks for that link, Leftshoe. I always found it hard to find an up-to-date orders/deliveries page on Airbus's site.
According to them IB have 1 left, SAA have none left and VS have 10, which I beleive they ordered about 4 or 5 months ago, and Thai have 2 A340 left, but I don't know if they are -500 or -600??
I could not find any info about the number of A346 QR ordered, can someone update me?

As a summary Airbus have 11 left to deliver, excluding QR's order.



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User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10397 times:

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 2):
As a summary Airbus have 11 left to deliver, excluding QR's order.

Does that 11 include the 3 for Air Canada which are listed? If so, those are indefinately on hold (and will be cancelled).

James



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User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10326 times:

Cruiser, yes it does. Did AC order a346? definatly not a345?


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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10309 times:

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 3):
Does that 11 include the 3 for Air Canada which are listed? If so, those are indefinately on hold (and will be cancelled).

They have been cancelled for over a year. Strange that they're not off the books yet.



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User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10132 times:

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 4):
Cruiser, yes it does. Did AC order a346? definatly not a345?

AC did order both the A345 ( x 2) and A346 ( x 3). There were some issues with the original order and Airbus put the order on hold indefinately. I cannot remember or find the exact reasons for it happening, but AC is able to cancel these planes without any penalty.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 5):

They have been cancelled for over a year. Strange that they're not off the books yet.

Some believe that they will remain on the books until the 777's actually begin arriving. Don't plan on these ever getting built though!

James



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User currently offlineAT502B From South Africa, joined Dec 2004, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10093 times:

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 2):
As a summary Airbus have 11 left to deliver, excluding QR's order.

I thought LH had some more on order? I seem to remember them exercising some options.



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User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2411 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9889 times:

Will the 343 still be in production in 2007 and 2008? Otherwise, maybe LAN could be a candidate if they change the order of the 2 343s remaining.

Regards )(



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User currently offlineThaiaggie From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9779 times:

TG has one 345 and one 346 on order I believe


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User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 596 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9649 times:

LH has 7 A346 left on order.

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9288 times:

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 2):
As a summary Airbus have 11 left to deliver, excluding QR's order.

There has to be some mistake 11 [10 VS + 1 IB] plus there are quite a bit from the likes of Thai, Lufthansa,Qatar


User currently offlineFlyPEGASUS From Portugal, joined Nov 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8829 times:

Hi,
According to Airbus site, there are 59 Airbus A340-600 still to be delivered.
And those are (per customer):

18 Emirates
10 Virgin Atlantic Airways
7 Lufthansa
6 Aerolineas Argentinas
4 Etihad Airways
4 Qatar Airways
3 Air Canada
3 Intl Lease Finance Corp
1 Private Customers
1 Undisclosed
1 Thai Airways International
1 Iberia

Regards


User currently offlineFlyPEGASUS From Portugal, joined Nov 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8770 times:

By the way, (and from the same source), there are only 5 A340-500 still to be delivered. And those are:

4 Etihad Airways
1 Thai Airways International

Regards


User currently offlineCuprita From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8634 times:

The IB A346 will be delivery this month.......with the registration EC-JUP.IB no want more A346....are looking the A380 and A350


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User currently offlineCuprita From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8634 times:

Of course ...the 6 AR A346 is off


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User currently offlineFlyPEGASUS From Portugal, joined Nov 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8603 times:

Hi Cuprita,

Quoting Cuprita (Reply 15):
Of course ...the 6 AR A346 is off

Didn't know that. Can you update me on that?
Thanks.


User currently offlineFlyPEGASUS From Portugal, joined Nov 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8418 times:

The answer to my question regarding A346 order from AR is well answered in the folowing Discussion forum in "Reply 10"

RE: 787 Vs A350 In South America (by Marambio Mar 31 2006 in Civil Aviation)#ID2691779

Regards.


User currently offlineMatt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8104 times:

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 2):
VS have 10



Quoting FlyPEGASUS (Reply 12):
10 Virgin Atlantic Airways

i make it 12!


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 7007 posts, RR: 63
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7996 times:

FlyPEGASUS

Thanks. My own figures are a little different. Going by published orders and commitments minus planes already built and flying, I get...

Emirates (18 x A346 + 2 to be leased from ILFC) (*)
Virgin Atlantic Airways (12 x A346)
Lufthansa (7 x A346)
Aerolineas Argentinas (6 x A346) (**)
Etihad Airways (3 x A345 + 4 A346)
4 Qatar Airways (4 x A346)
VIP (1 x A346)
Thai Airways International (2 x A345)
Iberia (1 x A346)

TOTAL : 4 A345 + 55 A346 = 59

(*) There's doubt over the status of all of these EK 'orders' and they've all been deferred in any case. There must be a question mark over whether any of these 20 (18? Fewer?) will ever be built.

(**) There must be still more doubt that these will ever be built.

I've written off the three Air Canada planes - whatever Airbus still have on their website.

Otherwise, it seems likely that all the others above will fly.

If they do - and if (IF!) there are NO MORE ORDERS for the A345 or A346 - the production run will be...

A345 Total 26
EK 10
SIA 5
Thai 4
Etihad 4
Air Canada 2
Qatar Government 1

A346 Total 87
VS 25
LH 17
SAA 9
IB 13
Thai 6
China Eastern 5
Etihad 4
Qatar 4
Cathay 3
VIP 1

An order from Qatar for another 20 or so would change things but that's far from guaranteed.

Otherwise, Airbus can pretty much bank on 113 A345/A346s flying but not necessarily any more.

It's pretty poor when you look at it like that.  Sad


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7962 times:

And of course the EK order is also been put on hold. Which means of the 59 - 27 may never get made.


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User currently offlineCrewrest From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7843 times:

That's pretty rubbish when you look how many 773s are on order, looks like boeing's won this little battle in the war

User currently offlineRICARDOAB From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7776 times:

Anyone know who the VIP customer is?

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6974 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 19):
A345 Total 26


Quoting PM (Reply 19):
A346 Total 87

Compare that to 35 777-200LR orders and 189 777-300ER orders. You might, debatably, count 60 777-300 orders in there, too, since the A340-600 is the closest match to that airfame. Also, while not a passenger aircraft, there are 23 777 Freighter orders to help R&D amortization for the -200LR/-300ER.

[Edited 2006-04-12 16:02:04]


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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6914 times:

I can see this thread turning in to a A vs. B war.

Between the 777 & A345/6

Does it matter, who has more orders: 'No'

Tom.



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25 N328KF : I don't see how you can say that. It does matter because the weaker product is the one that will need to be replaced sooner. This isn't a P.C. kiddie
26 Lumberton : Hasn't Vijay Mallya of Kingfisher already said he's going to probably take some A340's?
27 PM : Balfour (sometime British Prime Minister) once said, "Nothing matters much and very few things matter at all." It's a great quote but everything hing
28 USADreamliner : That was on order made 6/7 years ago, when IB and AA controlled the Airline. They cancelled the order.On AR's website they show 744, 735 and A313 as
29 Thorben : Then I will say, without waving any flag, that people at Airbus noticed the sales figures as well and, since this is not a softball game, will look a
30 PlaneHunter : True, we will see more A340 sales in the future. But nobody should think enhanced versions will change the game. The A340 will always remain very hea
31 Thorben : I didn't mean the enhanced version.
32 PlaneHunter : What do you mean then? A completely new airframe? Stretching the A350? PH
33 Thorben : No, just the current models (without the -200, of course.)
34 PlaneHunter : And how should the current models attract a number of new customers or significantly more sales than recently? You said Airbus would "look to change
35 Thorben : The things you simply do in business in order to sell better. Lower the price, offer additonal benefits (like paying the fuel difference to the 777)
36 Hamlet69 : National Air Services. To answer the question, the current A340 backlog as of March 31st is as follows: -200 0 - no longer on offer -300 3 - Air Maur
37 Crewrest : Hamlet there's a few Virgin 600s in there too.
38 PlaneHunter : "Simply"? Airbus has most likely tried to push A340s sales with that policy for a longer time. Though, the B777 has been sold better than ever - with
39 Thorben : Proof? With three years backlog? Yes, EK switched from A340 to 777F. If they're interested in the A380, then one may offer them some A340s with it. T
40 Post contains images Hamlet69 : They do. However, the fact that the current 777 backlog is greater than the A330/340 backlog combined probably is a little worrisome to Airbus. Has t
41 PlaneHunter : There have been major order battles over the last months - do you seriously think that Airbus - well aware of having an inferior product - has not tr
42 Boeing767-300 : No Thorben I think you will find that Emirates switched to 77W (26 ordered Paris 2003) after initially claiming that the 77W could not handle the hot
43 Thorben : Is it really bigger? Do you have numbers? Besides, with a backlog of around three years, would there be any sense in panic sales just to have a large
44 Hamlet69 : A330 = 172 A340 = 72 777 = 271 I never said they were, and that wasn't the point I was making. The point was that, after 2 years of service, instead
45 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Sure - if you just focus at the few freighters and totally ignore the pax versions. See above. So you actually suggest Airbus has to sell low-priced
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