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Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?  
User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4054 times:

This is truely curious, can somebody please fill me in?

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf96/393668_web.pdf

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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3997 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

Maybe this is just the paperwork that is required to operate charters during the European off-peak winter season ? Would be a good way to keep the fleet busy during the winter season which is always a problem for European LCCs. Aero Lloyd operated a couple of Airbus for US tour operators in the past and as they are no longer around, HLX might be interested to take over that work. They have just taken on Boeing 737-800s which will be definitely too big to fill during the winter. Maybe they will be heading across the pond ?

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

Vfw614 got it right, HLX is "pulling an Aerolloyd" here.


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User currently onlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

The application is for charters, so Im surprised its not for HapagFly


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3981 times:

The curious thing is, they're only allowed to fly into the US with aircraft which have a max passenger capactity of 60 and max payload they can carry on those routes are 18,000 lbs. That's the strangest part of it.

User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3814 times:

Is HLX the ICAO identifier for Hapag Lloyd Express or just a popular abbreviation ? The reason I'm asking is that I've noticed Challenger 604s (and Citation Xs, IIRC) flying between the US and Germany recently using the HLX designator. Does Hapag also have a corporate operation on their certificate ? There's currently a HLX111 doing Dulles to Hannover as a Challenger. Maybe someone in Germany could elaborate.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 5):
Is HLX the ICAO identifier for Hapag Lloyd Express or just a popular abbreviation ? The reason I'm asking is that I've noticed Challenger 604s (and Citation Xs, IIRC) flying between the US and Germany recently using the HLX designator. Does Hapag also have a corporate operation on their certificate ? There's currently a HLX111 doing Dulles to Hannover as a Challenger.

Yes, HLX is the ICAO code for Hapag-Lloyd Express, and their callsign is "Excellence". The Challenger and Citation X could make sense if we go through the restrictions the DOT approval has layed out, however, why would X3 start using such aircraft in the first place? Are they doing some dedicate charters for big corporations or something? Or perhaps they're starting up something similar to what Privatair is doing?

[Edited 2006-04-12 07:57:49]

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3710 times:

Hapag Lloyd also has a small business jet division, so maybe these flights are covered by this document.


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