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Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?  
User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 620 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4614 times:
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Any ideas on what type of planes small airlines like Cape Air will you use in the future as there seems to be less of a market for the 4-8 passenger twin engine prop planes nowadays? I suppose the C208 could be of some use but I would imagine the airlines would prefer a twin engine plane if they could have one. Any thoughts>

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User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4605 times:

For missions that the 402 or the Navajo are often used for, there is no appropriate replacement. C208, PC-12s and other similar sized turboprops are virtually identical in passenger size (and often, better in performance), but turboprops are only efficient when cruising at the flight levels. Cape Air and similar 135 carriers use their 402s on such short segments (HYA-Islands are but 15 minutes) that turboprops are wildly fuel thirsty compared to piston twins.

Yes, there are also regulatory hurdles with single engine passengers ops, but these vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

Yeah speaking of small airlines how long are those B1900's gonna stay around down in Florida for CO connection?


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

Well, one of the only new comparable aircraft might be the Adam 500??
6 seat piston, and good DOC.
...and they still make the Baron.

Jimbo



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4429 times:

Maybe this would be an ideal replacement.....

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User currently offlineInTheSky74 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4425 times:

I think the B1900's will stay in Florida for CO Connection - because those planes are Gulfstream's planes now.

Rob


User currently offlineAkjetBlue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4383 times:

Gulfstream is also buying more E120s... expansion or replacement i can't say


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User currently offline787engineer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 572 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

Quoting AviationAddict (Thread starter):
Any ideas on what type of planes small airlines like Cape Air will you use in the future as there seems to be less of a market for the 4-8 passenger twin engine prop planes nowadays? I suppose the C208 could be of some use but I would imagine the airlines would prefer a twin engine plane if they could have one. Any thoughts>

I think (and hope) 5+ years down the road we'll see the likes of the BA609 taking up this role. Hopefully a commercial version of the quad tiltrotor can also replace some of the smaller regional jets, that'll really help free up slots at busy airports. Just my twocents 


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4835 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4304 times:

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 4):
Maybe this would be an ideal replacement.....

A recent thread dealt wih the revival of the TwOtter, and there was a report about the sale of the rights to manufacture it.

Quoting 787engineer (Reply 7):
I think (and hope) 5+ years down the road we'll see the likes of the BA609 taking up this role

If the price is right, there might just be a business case for it.



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User currently onlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5436 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

The various ultra light jets in the 4-6 passenger range will probably grow to include commercial 10-20 pax versions.


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User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4253 times:

Don't you think the cost of a 20 pax jet would be sufficiently higher than a 20pax jet, enough so to keep airlines buying props?


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 9):
The various ultra light jets in the 4-6 passenger range will probably grow to include commercial 10-20 pax versions.

But we already have them, and it's been a steady market for many years.
The VLJs fit a new market for transporting very few people relatively short distances (500 miles).

I still don't think jets are a economic option for very short flights.

The BA609 is a good idea, but I'm guessing won't be csot effective for those small airlines.


Jimbo



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