DTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1470 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9574 times:
Transcripts of United Flight 93 were released today. From the way I read it the hijackers had control until the end and flew the airplane into the ground after they saw a threat from the brave souls who fought back. So sad to read this.
IFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9449 times:
As a common species, we can be so inexplicably cruel to each other.
I didn't read the transcript, by choice. The fact that it has been released annoys me and somewhat disgusts me, but what disgusts me more is the a-holes who took flight 93 and the other flights, all in the name of their 'god'.
RDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9104 times:
09:39:11 -- Ah. Here's the captain; I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet,
09:39:21 -- Okay. That's ninety three calling?
09:39:24 -- One moment.
09:39:34 -- United ninety three. I understand you have a bomb on board. Go ahead.
09:39:42 -- And center execjet nine fifty six. That was the transmission,
09:39:47 -- Okay. Ah. Who called Cleveland?
09:39:52 -- Executive jet nine fifty six, did you understand that transmission?
09:39:56 -- Affirmative. He said that there was a bomb on board,
09:39:58 -- That was all that you got out of it also?
09:40:01 -- Affirmative.
A few years ago I listened to UA93's communcation with ZOB, I remember hearing this part where the terrorists thought they were on the PA, but they were actually on the VHF freq with ZOB. Scary stuff, may Iblis reserve a special place in hell for those ignorant cowards.
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UALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8809 times:
Is anyone else, especially those from UA and AA who were working on September 11th, having a hard time recently? With the upcoming movie and the trial of Moussoui (sp?) on everywhere, the calm I usually display has been cracking.
I realize that some my have put this behind them in some fashion. But others still deal with it daily. Most of the time these feelings only begin to arise in me in August. But with all the hype in the media, I think its begun early this year for me. I had so hoped after last year that I was getting through this.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days ago) and read 8416 times:
Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 12): Whatever you do to the least of my brothers you do unto me.
Some of the most horrible things in human history have been done in the name of God. Too bad those people never really understood, and understand the true nature of God, just look at the ten commandments. The most important guideline, or even rules everybody should live by. And it includes "thou shalt not kill". Not, "thou shalt kill only in my name" or whatever. Or that quote you gave UALPHLCS is also a very nice one.
For the record, the ten commandments are not solely for christians, they are also in the Thora and Koran.
These people have been judged, and they are not where they expected to be...
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days ago) and read 8312 times:
Quoting Dispatchguy (Reply 17): I honestly never knew that; granted, I am not that religious of a person, but I always assumed that they were directed to those who follow the Bible.
The old testament is the same as the Tora and the Koran is also remarkably similar. I guess you didn't know that muslims believe in Jesus as well? Only they call him Issa, and is not the son of God (how could he be, if he were the son of God, he would be a God too, and there is only one God) but one of the four prophets (the most well known of course is Muhammed, the fifth, Issa is the fourth, and the one who is supposed to be reborn, and when that happens, to bring paradise on earth) The other prophets are Abraham, Noach, and I forgot the last one. They do have a bit different names (arabic) I am sure some of my muslim a.net friends can help me out here.
So in many ways Issa is the most important prophet, even more than Muhammed, who wrote down the Koran (or Qu'ran). I guess it would make sense that we all worship the same God if the Bible, Tora and Koran are so similar huh? Puts all that petty bickering between religions in a whole other perspective.
That's why I always say that the differences between the people is not so much religious, as it is cultural.
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4139 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8091 times:
THey interviewed the wife of the UA93 pilot on Good Morning America this AM. All I can say is that she should be proud to have known and be married to such an individual.
The pilot was basically injured, perhaps mortally, but even as he sat hurt and broken in the cockpit with the hijackers flying the plane, he was pulling fuses and making life generally difficult for them. Part of his job was to run the simulators for other pilots - in other words he was used to "breaking planes" and having pilots figure out what to do. The hijacker chumps didn't stand a chance of being able to fly that plane successfully and fulfill their sick mission. The passengers and crew on UA93 will be remembered forever as heroes. They didn't wake up that Tuesday morning expecting to be but that is how they died. The terrorists will be forever reviled for being evil hell-doers who couldn't even finish their twisted mission; too bad it cost the heroes their lives because this story would have been so much better if they would have been able to wrangle control away from the hijackers and somehow land the 757 safely.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8028 times:
Quoting Richierich (Reply 19): too bad it cost the heroes their lives because this story would have been so much better if they would have been able to wrangle control away from the hijackers and somehow land the 757 safely.
Indeed, too bad they didn't get the plane under control.
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9 Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7550 times:
There are many sad aspects of the entire attack to me.
More people have died in the name of religion than almost any other cause. It is VERY easy to set aside those pesky "thou shalt not kill" and "whatever you do unto the least of me, you do unto me" and "treat thy neighbor as thyself" when you convince yourself that you are in a state of war.
Were the hijackers brainwashed? Absolutely. Are they the only people who have been brainwashed by religion? Not a chance.
I am sorry that thousands of Americans died on that horrible day. I am sorry that thousands upon thousandsof Jews and Muslims died during the Inquisition. I am sorry that thousands upon thousands of black Sudanese have died at the hands of Muslims in Darfur. I am sorry that thousands upon thousands of Myanmarese and North Koreans have died of starvation in the name of "self-reliance" and devotion to their egotistical and psychotic leaders. I am sorry that gay people suffer in countries around the world because of humans' preoccupation with stifling sexuality in all forms.
If we don't learn from history (and work to change it), we are doomed to repeat it. Honor the memory of the brave people who died that day, but learn what hysteria can do and work to stop it.
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25 VasanthD: I have always had this question...forgive me if its a silly one... How did the FBI or whoever found out that those were the guys who hijacked the flig
26 Kappel: This, unfortunately, is something that the human race seems incapable of doing. We are set to repeat our mistakes over and over again...
27 S12PPL: Tell that to the Christians. I seem to remember some Holy Wars?
28 Pilotdude09: Has the flight 93 movie not been released in the USA? i have seen it several times and it is very sad but it is a tribute to those on flight 93.
29 Tbnist03: I was reading through parts of the Qur'an, and I found that both (Issa and Jesus) are correct when addressing or talking about Him. I'm not going to
30 ORD: The flight attendants on the plane identified the terrorists by name and seat assignment during the hijacking and communicated this information to UA
31 UAL747: I hate this type of argument. While this DID occur, it by no means justifies radical Islam. Just because the Christians did it way back when, gives n
32 ChrisNH: If Allah is so great, how come he couldn't make the plane go where the terrorists wanted? Brain-dead terrorists. Chris in NH
33 DTW757: http://www.united93movie.com/index.php If this is the movie which you're talking about, then no it is not released in the USA until April 28.