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Rumor: B6 To SXM By Year's End  
User currently offlineTIA From Albania, joined Mar 2006, 524 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5270 times:

I hate spreading false rumors, but people on an SXM board are claiming that B6 has finalized plans to start service to the island late this year. According to the person who started that thread, he has some sort of inside info, and it is a done deal, but that we shouldn't expect an official announcement for months. I personally don't know what to make of this rumor, and it does sound like "my brother's friend's neighbor, who once was in the same bar as a guy who just flew B6, told me this." However, it would make sense to start service to SXM late in the fall, considering the start of high season and the fact that the new terminal in SXM will open in October.

http://www.traveltalkonline.com/foru...er=496373&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1&nt=4

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User currently offlineWidebodysrule From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5213 times:

cool! so we can expect some low low low(not fares) but landings from B6 and some pictures from close angles in SXM.  bigthumbsup   Cool  yes   wave   eyepopping 

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4663 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5178 times:

Im hoping the NK-SXM rumor pans out because that woul mean cheap fares from ATL.


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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5164 times:

Quoting TIA (Thread starter):

jetBlue might start service next year. They said after CLT and RDU was announced that they would add two more cities this year. I feel MIA and CUN are next. I'll take MAH4546's word over just about anybody, although the A320s will look good going over the beach at SXM!



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User currently offlineTIA From Albania, joined Mar 2006, 524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5148 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 3):
I feel MIA and CUN are next.

Well, CUN doesn't depend solely on them, so they might have not included CUN in that statement. But then again, as I said in the opening post, I don't have any more info on this than what's already in that link, so this is pure speculation.


User currently offlineFlyTweed From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5079 times:

SXM would be amazing!!! I could finally travel down there and pay less than $500 fares... Maybe not a lot less, but I would hope B6 would try to undercut the already inflated fares down there. I've been dying to get there for years!!

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32737 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5069 times:

I have been hearing a lot about SXM, but more rumours have focused on AUA being jetBlue's next interantional city. Conincidently, Spirit will likely be landing at both airports within a year as well. Whatever happens, they won't be announced until summer, as Caribbean flights are best launched in November and December when peak travel starts picking up.


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User currently offlineDelta767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

MAH4546 what happened to the GSO rumors?! Surprised to see its two neighbors beat it to the punch after much speculation over GSO.

User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

On B6's route map on the bottom where you send in cities you want to see them serve, I sent in St. Maarten as one of my choices. I hope that comes on.

I though I heard when they announced 8 new cities this year (excluding AUS and RIC) they meant 8 domestic cities. Thats what I thought it was, so what is it really?

I could see B6 have 2X JFK-SXM on the 320 and 1X MCO-SXM on the 190.

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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32737 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4705 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 8):
I could see B6 have 2X JFK-SXM on the 320 and 1X MCO-SXM on the 190.

2x SXM is overkill. It would be 1x daily. MCO-SXM would not work. The flight would have to rely on heavy O&D, which Orlando cannot satisfy. FLL-SXM would work, as would a 1-2x weekly BOS-SXM. St. Maarten is a higher yielidng, low-density Caribbean market, very different from Cancun, Aruba, and San Juan.



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User currently offlineMaartenV From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

Maybe its a stupid question, but why would a FLL-SXM flight work, while a MCO-SXM would not work? I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about O&D to and from Florida or SXM, but it seems to me that both FLL and MCO are typical tourist destinations (MCO b/c Disney etc and FLL for cruise ships and beaches). Is there really that big of a difference between the two markets that would make such a flight fail or work.

Who would use a FLL-SXM (or MCO-SXM) flight? The both seem to be tourist destinations in my opinion and traffic from locals would be limit to, because St Maarten isn't really a big island with a lot of people travelling to FLL or MCO and vice versa.



Its all about supply and demand...
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32737 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4671 times:

Quoting MaartenV (Reply 10):
Maybe its a stupid question, but why would a FLL-SXM flight work, while a MCO-SXM would not work? I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about O&D to and from Florida or SXM, but it seems to me that both FLL and MCO are typical tourist destinations (MCO b/c Disney etc and FLL for cruise ships and beaches). Is there really that big of a difference between the two markets that would make such a flight fail or work.

South Florida, where Fort Lauderdale is, is home to nearly 5.4M people. The Orlando region has around 1.7M residents. In addition to the larger amount of local tourist traffic origiinating from Florida, there are strong business ties between South Florida and the Netherland/French Antilies that do not exist between Orlando and the Netherland/French Antiles, which naturally come from the fact that the region is the closest US mainland area to the Caribbean. Just compare Fort Lauderdale and Orlando's current Caribbean service. Fort Lauderdale has non-stops, and in many cases multiple dailies, to GCM, PLS, GDT, KIN, MBJ, PAP, CAP, CUN, STT, SJU, PUJ, SDQ, and POS, with AUA and SXM likely soon joing the mix, thanks to Spirit. Orlando simply has MBJ, SJU, BQN, and two weekly flights to GCM during July and August.



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User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4656 times:

The Jetblue folks have been to CUN earlier this year to evaluate the airpotr. They were also interested in running an EM190 from FLL-MID, as there was some downtime on a Saturday.

User currently offlineMaartenV From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

Thanks MAH4546 for your clear answer!

I had not thought of the fact that FLL was so close to Miami.



Its all about supply and demand...
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32737 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4641 times:

Quoting Billy (Reply 12):
The Jetblue folks have been to CUN earlier this year to evaluate the airpotr. They were also interested in running an EM190 from FLL-MID, as there was some downtime on a Saturday.

That would be interseting if they were to start FLL-MID runs. South Florida has a relatively small Mexican community - only around 70,000 - but almost all of them are from the Merida area. AeroMexico is the only airline with Merida service from South Florida right now, and it goes out packed all the time.



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User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4635 times:

MAH 4546

I thik that Jetblue were looking for a short international sector to keep the plane busy. MID is a small market and the DL to ATL, for example is really struggling.


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4618 times:
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Maybe out of the topic, but did WestJet use to fly to SXM ?

I ask this because I was looking for a no-frill carrier flying into SXM from the East-Coast and I didn't find anything...


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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32737 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4618 times:

Quoting Billy (Reply 15):
MAH 4546

I thik that Jetblue were looking for a short international sector to keep the plane busy. MID is a small market and the DL to ATL, for example is really struggling.

Yes, indeed, Merida is a very small market, but not from South Florida. As I mentioned, a large part of the region's Mexican community hails from Merida, which is why MIA is one of AeroMexico's few routes from the Merida.



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User currently offlineYeggerman From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 16):
but did WestJet use to fly to SXM ?

I beleive it was charter flights for Air Transat that they flew to SXM, nothing scheduled.



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4360 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
South Florida, where Fort Lauderdale is, is home to nearly 5.4M people. The Orlando region has around 1.7M residents. In addition to the larger amount of local tourist traffic origiinating from Florida, there are strong business ties between South Florida and the Netherland/French Antilies that do not exist between Orlando and the Netherland/French Antiles, which naturally come from the fact that the region is the closest US mainland area to the Caribbean. Just compare Fort Lauderdale and Orlando's current Caribbean service.

Ok Ok you got me there. Anyway I think now that they would do 1X FLL 190 and 1X JFK 320. Then for Mexico have the CUN service from JFK and then have the 190 to MID that times to connect with FLL's flights to OAK and LGB along with some later flights to IAD JFK LGA and BOS. Like have some afternoon flight out and a night back to connect to it all.

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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4882 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

Quoting Yeggerman (Reply 18):
I beleive it was charter flights for Air Transat that they flew to SXM, nothing scheduled.

This is correct, WS have operated a number of charters down there for tout operators in Canada and the US when they an squeeze it in. I also have a pic my sister took of a WS bird in Cuba.

YOWza



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
That would be interseting if they were to start FLL-MID runs. South Florida has a relatively small Mexican community - only around 70,000 - but almost all of them are from the Merida area. AeroMexico is the only airline with Merida service from South Florida right now, and it goes out packed all the time.

What MAH4546 stated is correct. The Mexican population on the Gold Coast is relatively small compared to the rest of the US, but the ones that are living here tend to be of Mayan decent, which by the way is a very different Mexican population from the rest of the country. Their ties are much closer to South Florida. From weather and tourism to vegetation, they feel much more at home. As an ESL college professor, I can tell you that Mexicans are rare in a classroom, but when they are present they are mostly Mayan. In fact, I have a Cozumel-ite and a Campechean in my class this year.

Also, I can tell you that when we designed our study abroard program, the first Latin American city we went for was Mérida. It has great universities, it is very safe (compared to other parts of Mexico) and it has History. Ruins and all + closeness to the Ameican East Coast. As someone who flies there twice a year, those MIA-MID flights are always full. I would more then welcome a B6 FLL-MID flight. Bring it on!!!!


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