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Ex-Southwest Airlines 737 In Beirut, Lebanon  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 14116 times:

Well...it was for Southwest Airlines...

Here it is in Beirut:
http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_hr_13167193/1dcc/__hr_/bb0a.jpg?groTzPEBHrfWusG9

Flying Carpet, a small Lebanese charter airline which owns and operates two aircraft, a Fairchild SA-227AC Metro III and a Cessna 401, has recently purchased N103SW, an ex-Southwest Airlines 737-200.

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It was ferried from Mojave to Beirut via Winnipeg, Goose Bay, Reykjavik, and Bucharest. It arrived yesterday.



It has since been towed to the Mideast Aircraft Services Company (MASCO) hangers to have its paint stripped and to be repainted. It will supposidly be painted in a slightly revised version of Flying Carpet's livery, except that it will have Iraqi Airways titles because it will supposidly be operating flights for Iraqi Airways.

Here it is infront of the MASCO hangers:

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Flying Carpet was one of the first carriers to operate flights to Iraq following the 2003 invasion. They've been operating regularly scheduled charter flights to Baghdad and Arbil on their 19-seat Fairchild Metro III, however, demand has been growing on the route prompting them to need a bigger aircraft. It looks like also, future flights will be operated in cooperation with Iraqi Airways, since the aircraft will carry Iraqi Airways titles, at least initially...

Regards


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9171 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14065 times:

Well it looks like...
That bird is now free to move about the middle east  Wink



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13890 times:

I bet whoever aquired this bird is vey, very lucky to gain a very well maintained aircraft. WN takes care of their airplanes with pride and dignity!

Take care of your planes, it will serve you for many, many years to come! WN has proven that with the 732's.



A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13668 times:

Quoting BA (Thread starter):
It was ferried from Mojave to Beirut via Winnipeg, Goose Bay, Reykjavik, and Bucharest.

That is quite the hop there. The plane's only 21 years old, so she's still got some life left in her, especially since WN has a great maintenance program and pipeline to Boeing. Here's hoping the usual scourges of the Middle East (sand, burqas, camels, &c) don't do her in.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 1):
Well it looks like...
That bird is now free to move about the middle east

 rotfl  Nicely played.

Airwave  eyebrow 



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13635 times:

So let me ask, lets say this 732 does crash in the middle east somewhere, will WN in any way be responsible for the aircraft's failure or was this bird sold 'as-is without recourse'?


A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
User currently offlineCloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13442 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):
So let me ask, lets say this 732 does crash in the middle east somewhere, will WN in any way be responsible for the aircraft's failure or was this bird sold 'as-is without recourse'?

All airplanes come with maintenance records. Southwest(or maintenance contractors) could be held at fault only if the work was not done as logged. I guess they could also be held liable if they misrepresented the number of cycles or hours on the airframe.

I believe Midwest was burned a while back because they bought some MD-83'S that turned out to have incomplete maintenance records.

Fraud in aircraft records, etc. is not unknown but it is less common than say, odometer fraud by used car sellers. The penalties are higher and there are more checks and balances.


User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1924 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 13322 times:

It was really nice to see the plane here in Beirut with the original paint. I want to thank Mr Youssef Jerab from MASCO for giving me access. He even let me in and it has the SW seats and suprisingly, is very clean. It's true that SW have taken good care of the plane.

I'm happy that I managed to take the photo since the paint will be removed today to be painted in revised Flying Carpet colours.

I did cabin and cockpit shots as well and see later if they are worthy for uploads here.

I mention in the photo that it may take OD-MAC registration. This is not final and the owner may or may not change it.

Best regards,
Vatche


User currently offlineArffguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 13295 times:

Great picture of the Southwest 732 especially with the tail number plainly visible and the SWA title still on the tail. Thanks for posting that one.

Also, I am glad that it got to escape from Mojave.



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User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 13213 times:

Quoting OD720 (Reply 10):
I'm happy that I managed to take the photo since the paint will be removed today to be painted in revised Flying Carpet colours

I can't wait to see this airplane in Flying carpet colours.I love this name"Flying carpet of Lebanon"
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12840 times:

Quoting Cloudy (Reply 9):
All airplanes come with maintenance records.

Not to attack you, but I do know that: Im in A&P Tech school....

Quoting Cloudy (Reply 9):
Fraud in aircraft records, etc. is not unknown but it is less common than say, odometer fraud by used car sellers.

Thats true, but in this case...the aircraft is flown in a different country with different rules not dictated by the FARs.

Quoting OD720 (Reply 10):
He even let me in and it has the SW seats and suprisingly, is very clean. It's true that SW have taken good care of the plane.

Not to single out anyone but I wished that other airlines took the time and effort to do with WN does with their planes.



A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12806 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
Not to attack you, but I do know that: Im in A&P Tech school....

He was not specifically targetting you with his comment!  wink 

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
the aircraft is flown in a different country with different rules not dictated by the FARs.

Nonetheless, a safety record is a safety record and if something is wrong in that document, you can sure as hell bet that the folks in Lebanon will be taking a magic carpet ride across the pond to have a little chat with WN!

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
Not to single out anyone but I wished that other airlines took the time and effort to do with WN does with their planes.

I second that! Although I believe AC does a great job with maintaining their a/c, there is always room for improvement. I've heard WestJet is also pretty good with their a/c.

Just my $0.02 (CDN)

Cheers,
Boeingfanyyz  airplane 



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User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12708 times:

So who gets the proceeds from the sale of N103SW?
Southwest or the storage company? Was this aircraft owned or leased by WN?
How does that work when an aircraft is stored in Mojave? Does the airline still own it or does Mojave buy it off them?
Sorry for all the questions but this thread got me wondering about the financial aspects of putting an aircraft in the desert for good from the company (not temporary storage for the airline).

Thanks!

SWA TPA



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12536 times:

Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 14):
He was not specifically targetting you with his comment!

Understood, I may have taken it in a different aspect.

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 15):
So who gets the proceeds from the sale of N103SW?

I thought WN sold all the 732's already so Im assuming the storage company probably got the dough.



A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9171 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12525 times:

Quoting Airwave (Reply 5):
Nicely played.

Thanks  Smile

I figured it is not very often we see a strictly domestic U.S. bird in a foreign country, so I thought, "why not use WN's slogan and come up with some wise-ass statement about this."  Big grin



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12466 times:

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 15):
So who gets the proceeds from the sale of N103SW?

Southwest owned most of the -200s, IIRC, and sold them off to other entities. Those other entities may store them at MHV and elsewhere, and they pay the storage costs until they either re-sell or lease the aircraft to someone else (at which time it most likely will get re-painted and re-registered), or strip the aircraft of usable parts/components and cut up what's left.

So, Southwest got it's money, and whomever they sold them to will also get theirs. Once Southwest sold them, they were out of the picture...


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12431 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 17):
"why not use WN's slogan and come up with some wise-ass statement about this."

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 



A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11345 times:

Thanks OPNLguy! I quess that answered that  Smile
One more question for you. When I was at DAL last December I noticed one of our -200's sitting off to to the side of one of the terminals. What is going on with that one?

SWA TPA



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11259 times:

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 20):
One more question for you. When I was at DAL last December I noticed one of our -200's sitting off to to the side of one of the terminals. What is going on with that one?

That's N67SW or N68SW (never can remember which) which is bolted to the ground over there and used to train rampers and provo agents. A retired aircraft is much more forgiving of bumps and dings than a front-line aircraft is..  Wink


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11149 times:

Quoting OD720 (Reply 10):
I did cabin and cockpit shots as well and see later if they are worthy for uploads here.

You should definitely try uploading them. If not to Airliners.net, then to MyAviation.net.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1924 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9391 times:

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 15):
So who gets the proceeds from the sale of N103SW?

They bought it from a certain bank or finance group and Southwest were not involved.

Quoting BA (Reply 22):
You should definitely try uploading them. If not to Airliners.net, then to MyAviation.net.

I have many shots from the past 7 days or so and I'll try to go through them all this weekend and see what's best for uploads. They were removing the paint today and even got photos of that as well. Looked interesting.

Regards.


User currently offlineScintx From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 270 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9095 times:

I knew this Reg looked familiar. This was my last WN -200 to fly on. It was a DAL-HOU on 2/23/04. I remember this flight well because I was talking to the gentleman beside me and he knew the -200's were on the way out. I've only been on one -200 since then and that was a DL on 11/27/05 DFW-CVG N243WA. Glad to see this old bird go on to another life. These WN -200's mean a lot to me. As a kid I started flying them in summer of 1975. There is a good chance I'll never see another 200 again. Thanks for the memories.


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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13004 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5912 times:

I love the twist here. An aircraft from the heart of "the USA" ending up in Iraq. It's amazing how Boeing/Airbus aircraft are so 'fungable' on the used market. I do hope it has a long life there.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5683 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 25):
An aircraft from the heart of "the USA" ending up in Iraq.

Beirut is in Lebanon, not Iraq.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineMajorNelson From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5601 times:

Quoting BA (Reply 26):
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 25):
An aircraft from the heart of "the USA" ending up in Iraq.

Beirut is in Lebanon, not Iraq.



Quoting BA (Thread starter):
It looks like also, future flights will be operated in cooperation with Iraqi Airways, since the aircraft will carry Iraqi Airways titles, at least initially...


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

MajorNelson,

The aircraft is owned by the Lebanese carrier, Flying Carpet, and it is currently in Beirut, Lebanon and will be based there.

It will be operating flights for Iraqi Airways, but it is not in Iraq right now and it will not be based in Iraq.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
25 OPNLguy : I think he knows that Beirut isn't in Iraq, and that Flying Carpet owns the aircraft. He never said the aircraft would be based in Iraq. I think what
26 FOMEA : Any new pics Of the new Color? Thanks for all you effort for taking the above pics. Regards F-OMEA
27 Post contains links Fly-K : Similarly surprising, yesterday I saw an ex-Aloha 737-200 (in full colors less titles) in Dubai... now registered EX-061. It is either flying for Phoe
28 Post contains links OD720 : This photo is immediately after its arrival here. Please use the link since the photo doesn't seem to appear in the post. http://myaviation.net/?pid=0
29 Iowaman : Thank you for editing the title.
30 Post contains images Steeler83 : Hey AirframeAS, on which thread did I post that? I forgot all about that one post. I am glad you found humor in it.
31 AirframeAS : You mean this one, Mr Steeler83??:
32 Barney Captain : Ahhhh 103SW.......the memories. February 1999, right downwind departure out of LBB headed for DAL when she let go of the A system hydraulics. It's ama
33 Post contains images Steeler83 : Yes that one
34 Post contains images AirframeAS : I only found that on this thread, I found it humorous because 1) it was original and 2) I cannot imagine any U.S. air carrier going THAT far making a
35 Post contains images Steeler83 : Yeah, I saw where I posted it on here I was responding to what Airwave said. I am glad you enjoyed it that much
36 AirframeAS : You should put that down as your disclaimer on the bottom of your posts. LOL!
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