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Can An Aircraft Turn While Landing?  
User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

Hello,
I know (and correct me if i'm wrong) that the outermost airleron on the wing is used as a flap in landing!! If so, can an aircraft make hard turns while flaps are fully deployed? I guess aircraft make their final turn and align with the runway before deploying the flaps. Is it correct?

Thanks anyways
OD-BWH


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User currently offlineFr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5364 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3253 times:

Only certain aircraft have ailerons that deflect with the flaps. Those ailerons still act as ailerons. Most aircraft that have both outerboard and inboard ailerons restrict the travel and/or usage of the outboard ailerons at high speed and give full authority at low speed. So to answer your question, yes the aircraft can turn while landing.


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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

Quoting OD-BWH (Thread starter):
Hello,
I know (and correct me if i'm wrong) that the outermost airleron on the wing is used as a flap in landing!! If so, can an aircraft make hard turns while flaps are fully deployed? I guess aircraft make their final turn and align with the runway before deploying the flaps. Is it correct?

Take a look at the Kunazi (sp?) approach to JFK, its a long sweeping curved approach to miss some noise abatement areas at the end of the runway, and involves very little straight flight during the approach.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3238 times:

Fly the River Visual approach into DCA for Rwy 19 and that'll answer it for you!

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0603/00443RIVER_VIS19.PDF


User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3238 times:

Which A/C have ailerons that are used as flaps in landing?
thanks
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User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

OD-BWH, all the control surfaces are in use all the time when landing. The aeroplane wouldn't stay on line (or on the correct glidepath) for a moment if they weren't.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

What Type are you reffering to.
regds
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User currently offlineFr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5364 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 4):
Which A/C have ailerons that are used as flaps in landing?

They are not used as flaps. Their nuetral position is reset to a drooped condition which acts as a continuation of the flap. The aileron still acts as an aileron and responds to flight deck inputs appropriately.

The only 2 types I know about are the MD11 and A300. Though I'm sure juat about any of the newer airframe types have this feature.



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User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 2):
Take a look at the Kunazi (sp?) approach to JFK, its a long sweeping curved approach to miss some noise abatement areas at the end of the runway, and involves very little straight flight during the approach.

That would be the Canarsie one, or Parkway Visual for 13 L/R as the official name is.

Link:
http://www.myairplane.com/databases/...oach/pdfs/00610PARKWAY_VIS13LR.PDF



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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

The old Kai Tak gave you full flap turns 9 seconds prior to landing every time...


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