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Delta Pilot Tentative Agreement Reached  
User currently offlineSeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1325 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2586 times:

ATLANTA - (AP) The union for Delta Air Lines Inc.'s pilots says it has reached a tentative agreement with the carrier on pay and benefit cuts that could avert a strike.

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User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

SWEEEEET! I can go home now!

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12799 posts, RR: 100
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2520 times:
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WSJ:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1145...026064.html?mod=home_whats_news_us

Fair use:

Quote:
:Delta Air Lines Inc. and its pilots union have reached a tentative agreement on pay and benefit cuts that could avert a strike, according to a memo from the union to its pilots.

No details of the agreement were released.

An arbitration panel due to rule by April 15 on Delta's request to abandon the current pilot contract had urged the two sides to strike a deal on their own.

The pilots union had threatened to strike if its contract is thrown out. Delta, which has been operating under bankruptcy protection since September, has said in court papers that a pilot strike would put it out of business.

Any deal on long-term pay and benefit cuts would have to be ratified by the airline's 5,930 pilots.

Basically, it sounds like if you weren't at the table, you don't know the details. Soon the pilots will be briefed.

Looks like the cooler heads prevailed. Who was it who had the theory that their wives would talk sense into them.  Wink

more from the WSJ:

Quote:

The average Delta pilot made about $157,000 last year, the company says. The union says that figure is inflated by overtime and that average pilot pay at Delta will decline to less than $125,000 this year.

It looks like the pilots came out ok. While I don't know what an average pay of less than $125k really means, since the union excludes overtime and instructor pilots... It shouldn't be too bad.

I'm just curious on furloughs. I don't doubt this agreement requires better pilot efficiency. Does anyone know any details?

Thanks,
Lightsaber



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User currently offlineCaptainT38 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/14343236.htm

This is all the info I have found on it so far.


User currently offlineSeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1325 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

Wow! Isn't it funny that when the news is good, and people can't bitch, they have very little to say.

User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 2):
Looks like the cooler heads prevailed. Who was it who had the theory that their wives would talk sense into them.

Who said the pilots gave in? While I hate unions and I was really pulling for the airline on this one - we don't know what happened. Maybe the pilots accepted some concessions - maybe the airline reduced the amounts of the pay cuts. We don't konw just yet.

Either way - this is fantastic news for EVERYONE. Congratulations DL and Pilots - may the widget keep on flying!  bigthumbsup 

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User currently offlineCongaboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

They probably settled right in the middle on pay...what will be very interesting is what was agreed to around the benefits. That is where I believe the corporation needed relief.


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User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

Just heard about it. Good news, until the strikes start again (presumably, not too far from now!).

I've always found DL to be a great airline with outstanding service.

Here's a link:

http://money.cnn.com/2006/04/14/news/delta_pilots/index.htm?cnn=yes

Cheers,
Boeingfanyyz  airplane 



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12799 posts, RR: 100
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2288 times:
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Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 5):
Who said the pilots gave in? While I hate unions and I was really pulling for the airline on this one - we don't know what happened. Maybe the pilots accepted some concessions - maybe the airline reduced the amounts of the pay cuts. We don't konw just yet.

I didn't mean to imply the pilots gave in. I meant to imply a moderating factor got everyone to the table talking and able to reach a compromise the members can vote on.

Note: The cheers is dependent upon DALPA members accepting the pact. I do notice they're dragging their feet and delaying... so they are trying to hold off for as long as possible when their pilots actually take a cut. Note: I do not blame them, it would be nothing less than what I would try.  Wink

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

Hmm, I just finished a 2-leg Delta itinerary - apparently this happened while I was in the air (granted, my second flight was ASA, not true Delta)

User currently offlineSBN580 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

Quoting SeeTheWorld (Reply 4):
Wow! Isn't it funny that when the news is good, and people can't bitch, they have very little to say.

Now, now, just wait. Once the details come out, there will be a post-mortem here and I am sure it will be dissected left and right. Can't you hear it now, "The pilots got screwed!" "The pilots got what they deserved!" "Management caved!" "No! The pilots caved!" Etc, etc, etc... I would only rest easy when the vote is taken in the affirmative and the ink is dry.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

Thank God! im so releived, I still have a job.... Thank you for listening to reason ALPA..


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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2525 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 11):
Thank you for listening to reason ALPA..

Like the other poster said... Why does everyone think the pilots are the ones to give in? No one has any details of the agreement yet


User currently offlinePtharris From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 12):
Why does everyone think the pilots are the ones to give in?

Doesn't sound like anyone has said they've giving in. But, it'll be interesting to know what details they've agreed to. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but tentative means that anything/anyone can blow the deal right off the table and they're back at square one, right?

They're far from out of the woods, both the pilots and the company.

Edit: I should add that at least they've released some pressure that's been building. I think this is all they've accomplished so far.

[Edited 2006-04-14 19:01:06]


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4019 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

I think DL has a much better chance at emerging from chapter 11 late this year than NW des in the next two years, Look for DL to further recover and become profitable late this year even.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21458 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Still needs to be ratified. With the huge strike authority vote, it's not a done deal that a majority of voting pilots will agree to it. Really depends on the terms.


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days ago) and read 1960 times:

ALL I'm gunna say is:

It's about friggin' time!



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