Quote: :Delta Air Lines Inc. and its pilots union have reached a tentative agreement on pay and benefit cuts that could avert a strike, according to a memo from the union to its pilots.
No details of the agreement were released.
An arbitration panel due to rule by April 15 on Delta's request to abandon the current pilot contract had urged the two sides to strike a deal on their own.
The pilots union had threatened to strike if its contract is thrown out. Delta, which has been operating under bankruptcy protection since September, has said in court papers that a pilot strike would put it out of business.
Any deal on long-term pay and benefit cuts would have to be ratified by the airline's 5,930 pilots.
Basically, it sounds like if you weren't at the table, you don't know the details. Soon the pilots will be briefed.
Looks like the cooler heads prevailed. Who was it who had the theory that their wives would talk sense into them.
more from the WSJ:
The average Delta pilot made about $157,000 last year, the company says. The union says that figure is inflated by overtime and that average pilot pay at Delta will decline to less than $125,000 this year.
It looks like the pilots came out ok. While I don't know what an average pay of less than $125k really means, since the union excludes overtime and instructor pilots... It shouldn't be too bad.
I'm just curious on furloughs. I don't doubt this agreement requires better pilot efficiency. Does anyone know any details?
AndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 38
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2902 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 2): Looks like the cooler heads prevailed. Who was it who had the theory that their wives would talk sense into them.
Who said the pilots gave in? While I hate unions and I was really pulling for the airline on this one - we don't know what happened. Maybe the pilots accepted some concessions - maybe the airline reduced the amounts of the pay cuts. We don't konw just yet.
Either way - this is fantastic news for EVERYONE. Congratulations DL and Pilots - may the widget keep on flying!
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 14570 posts, RR: 100
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2779 times:
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Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 5): Who said the pilots gave in? While I hate unions and I was really pulling for the airline on this one - we don't know what happened. Maybe the pilots accepted some concessions - maybe the airline reduced the amounts of the pay cuts. We don't konw just yet.
I didn't mean to imply the pilots gave in. I meant to imply a moderating factor got everyone to the table talking and able to reach a compromise the members can vote on.
Note: The cheers is dependent upon DALPA members accepting the pact. I do notice they're dragging their feet and delaying... so they are trying to hold off for as long as possible when their pilots actually take a cut. Note: I do not blame them, it would be nothing less than what I would try.
SBN580 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2751 times:
Quoting SeeTheWorld (Reply 4): Wow! Isn't it funny that when the news is good, and people can't bitch, they have very little to say.
Now, now, just wait. Once the details come out, there will be a post-mortem here and I am sure it will be dissected left and right. Can't you hear it now, "The pilots got screwed!" "The pilots got what they deserved!" "Management caved!" "No! The pilots caved!" Etc, etc, etc... I would only rest easy when the vote is taken in the affirmative and the ink is dry.
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Ptharris From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2643 times:
Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 12): Why does everyone think the pilots are the ones to give in?
Doesn't sound like anyone has said they've giving in. But, it'll be interesting to know what details they've agreed to. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but tentative means that anything/anyone can blow the deal right off the table and they're back at square one, right?
They're far from out of the woods, both the pilots and the company.
Edit: I should add that at least they've released some pressure that's been building. I think this is all they've accomplished so far.
[Edited 2006-04-14 19:01:06]
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