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Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK  
User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6344 times:

Hot on the heals of announcing an increase in passenger flights to New York/JFK to a daily B777 service, the airline's cargo department has announced plans to launch a weekly scheduled all freighter service to JFK. The flight will operate every Thursday (subject to possible changes) and will route CAI-OST-JFK (OST is the airline's European cargo hub).

At the moment the airline is setting up the infrastructure at JFK as well as negotiating the current bilateral agreement between Egypt and the US to accomodate the cargo flight. The route should be launched in May, however the airline will operate a series of ad hoc charters on the route starting on Thursday (20/04/06) catering for an oil industry contract.

As for the 747, it'll be leased from Evergreen International and will most probably be a B747-200.


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Definitely another great move and as I stated in the previous thread, cargo is a real money maker on the JFK route. In fact Egyptian exports to the US have seen a sharp increase last year with the trend expected to continue.

Article on Amcham Egypt's website:

Last year saw a dramatic upswing in the volume of Egyptian exports to the US, said a report issued March 19 by the Egyptian Trade Representation Office in Washington. Egypt exported goods worth $2.1 billion to the US in 2005, up from just $1.3 billion in 2004 – an increase of 57 percent. Egypt’s import volume from the US, meanwhile, rose by 2.7 percent on the year.
http://www.amcham.org.eg/Publication...nessMonthly/april%2006/InBrief.asp


In addition to this expansion, Egyptair Cargo are also launching a new weekly AB6F flight to Tripoli/Libya (TIP) on Monday 17/05/06. Last year the airline had launched cargo flights to BEY with AB6F equipment however a sharp drop in demand meant the service was short lived.


Egyptair Cargo's fleet currently consists of 2 A300B4-203Fs (SU-BDG and SU-GAC) and 1 A300-622RF (SU-GAS). A second A300-622RF will arrive in June 2006. The department is also working on a new
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Horus


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6284 times:

Btw, whats the status of Egyptairs 747-300 Combis which were retired from the fleet last year. They are still pretty young for a 747, with just 17 years of service. Any clue who´s going to take them? Where have they been parked?

User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6170 times:

NA

Both 743s are stored at Cairo awaiting their fates.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6068 times:

Hopefully they will be converted as well.

User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5968 times:

Great news ..

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 3):
Hopefully they will be converted as well.

I think the cost of converting them to freighters may have been so high that the Airline didn't even opt for that option and chose to lease another 747 instead .
The 2 B747's Egyptair owns were retired from service few years ago , they are parked at CAI and unfortunately I don't see them flying for MS again .



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5925 times:

Quoting Horus (Thread starter):
Definitely another great move and as I stated in the previous thread, cargo is a real money maker on the JFK route. In fact Egyptian exports to the US have seen a sharp increase last year with the trend expected to continue.

very intresting news, + the routing via Ostende will give Egyptair the oportunity to fill up the flights with cheap sold consolidated cargo from Europe.

also the Thursady depature will be a big + for the flight.

wish the best for the flight.

regards
Avianca



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User currently offlineKorg747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 549 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5889 times:

Weren't those 747 sold to air atlas(or a cargo company)? it was a big thread on A.net a while ago.


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User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

Quoting Korg747 (Reply 6):
Weren't those 747 sold to air atlas(or a cargo company)? it was a big thread on A.net a while ago.

Hey Korg 747 , long time no see   .
I saw one of these 747's parked at CAI on my last trip in January of this year .
SU-GAM: stored at CAI since 06/2004 .

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SU-GAL : stored at CAI since 04/2004

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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5730 times:

Quoting Horus (Thread starter):
the airline's cargo department has announced plans to launch a weekly scheduled all freighter service to JFK.

I have recieved information stating that Egyptair have ordered 3 parking position for the B742 at OST from June which seems to indicate plans to treble services on the route from weekly to thrice weekly. Excellent news!

Quoting NA (Reply 1):
Btw, whats the status of Egyptairs 747-300 Combis which were retired from the fleet last year.

NA, didn't you start a thread some time last year stating that the 2 B743s were sold? I personally never got a confirmation of that information though.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 5):
also the Thursady depature will be a big + for the flight.

Hello Aviance. Any particular reason why Thursday will be a big plus?


The 2 B747-300s (SU-GAL/M) were retired from service in early 2004 as the airline continued to streamline its fleet and parked them up near MS's engineering complex at CAI. During 2004/2005 SU-GAL was used on a few ad hoc charter cargo flights and SU-GAM is stored devoid of internal fittings and engines.

Here is a (poor quality) photo I took of SU-GAM:



Horus



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5689 times:

Quoting Horus (Reply 8):
NA, didn't you start a thread some time last year stating that the 2 B743s were sold? I personally never got a confirmation of that information though.

Thanks for remembering me:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2424042

Maybe the deal of selling them fell through?


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5622 times:

Quoting Horus (Reply 8):
Hello Aviance. Any particular reason why Thursday will be a big plus?

because in the aircargo industry still a wednesday and friday/saturday delivery to the airlines is very common, specially the consolidations are closed this days. so thursday is just 1 day after wednesday and all the cargo that could be delivered wednesdays could be uplifted in a very short time-frame on the next day.

regards
Avianca



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User currently offlineSU184 From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 235 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5546 times:

The 743's were sold to a Belgian/Saudi joint venture company as I heard, they now have the all Egyptair livery removed and painted over, no specific news about the identity of the new owner, but they should be flown out CAI probably to be converted to freighters.

User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 10):
because in the aircargo industry still a wednesday and friday/saturday delivery to the airlines is very common, specially the consolidations are closed this days. so thursday is just 1 day after wednesday and all the cargo that could be delivered wednesdays could be uplifted in a very short time-frame on the next day.

Thanks for the clarification Avianca (judging by your profile I guess you know what you're talking about).

Quoting SU184 (Reply 11):
The 743's were sold to a Belgian/Saudi joint venture company as I heard, they now have the all Egyptair livery removed and painted over, no specific news about the identity of the new owner, but they should be flown out CAI probably to be converted to freighters.

SU184, I have a video of SU-GAM taken in March which shows no engines on the aircraft's port side. Do you have any more information on this Belgian/Saudi venture?


Horus



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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5423 times:

hope that the dep ex JFK is NOT on Friday but on Saturday, giving the forwarders sufficient time to hand over cargo received from the industry during Friday.

User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5391 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 13):
hope that the dep ex JFK is NOT on Friday but on Saturday, giving the forwarders sufficient time to hand over cargo received from the industry during Friday.

The flight will actually operate JFK-OST-CAI-OST-JFK (i.e. it'll originate in JFK) so at least initially the aircraft will probably depart JFK on Tuesday evenings.

However provisions are in place for the service to increase to 3x weekly in June.

Horus



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