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MyTravel A333 On Round-the-World Flight  
User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2285 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11458 times:

Danish charter operator Spies is celebrating its 50th birthday by bringing 400 people on a round-the-world tour with a MyTravel A330-300, flight DK 1956, with 405 seats. They will also bring their own mechanics.

In 21 days, the airplane will visit 11 destinations on four continents. Spotters will be able to see the bird in such uncommon locations as:

22 Apr: Copenhagen - Hamilton, Canada (arr 14:05)
23 Apr: Hamilton - San Francisco (arr 19:00)
25 Apr: San Francisco - Honolulu (arr 19:10)
27 Apr: Honolulu - Rarotonga, Cook Islands (arr 05:20, 28 Apr)
30 Apr: Rarotonga - Sydney (arr 12:55, 1 May)
03 May: Sydney - Sandakan, Malaysia (arr 05:30, 4 May)
04 May: Sandakan - Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia (arr 12:15)
06 May: Kota Kinabalu - Ho Chi Minh City (arr 11:00)
08 May: Ho Chi Minh - Agra, India (arr 17:15)
09 May: Agra - Muscat, Oman (arr 18:50)
11 May: Muscat - Cairo (arr 15:20)
12 May: Cairo - Copenhagen (arr 21:25)


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User currently offlineDeltaMD88 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11334 times:

Thats awesome! Does anyone know if something like this has ever been done before by any airline for an anniversary? How would one get on something like this?
Cheers!


User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11318 times:

Why would they take it into YHM when MyTravel flies into YYZ for regularly scheduled service? Any ideas?

James



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User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11298 times:

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 2):
Why would they take it into YHM when MyTravel flies into YYZ for regularly scheduled service? Any ideas?

Cost.

YYZ is too expensive for an over-night stay.

1011yyz



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User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 904 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11209 times:

Maybe they are just going to Niagara and the airport is nearer|?

User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2285 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11121 times:

Quoting DeltaMD88 (Reply 1):
Does anyone know if something like this has ever been done before by any airline for an anniversary?

I've heard rumors that the Concorde was also used for these kind of flights, but I don't know for sure.

Quoting DeltaMD88 (Reply 1):
How would one get on something like this?

It's fully booked by now, but the tour was open for bookings from anybody. The price was DKK 39,995 including hotels, excursions and most meals.

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 2):
Why would they take it into YHM when MyTravel flies into YYZ for regularly scheduled service? Any ideas?

Rdwooty is correct, they're going to Niagara. The airplane arrives at 14:05 on the 22nd, and leaves at 17:00 on the 23rd. So if you deduct the time spent in passport control, waiting for baggage, check-in, and security, they will have less than 24 hours outside of the airport.



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12566 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11058 times:
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Some pretty cool routings. However, I wouldn't fancy spending that much time on an A330 with another 400 pax - not much room. crowded 


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User currently offlineBjornstrom From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11045 times:

405 people on a A333? The 2-class planes CX use has 311 seats, 3-class only 251. Im not sure I'd like to pay 39k DKK for this when you can get a Star Alliance Round-the-World in Business Class on SQ (and others) for less  Smile


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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11016 times:

The MYT A330-300 I came back from Cancun on in summer (OY-VKG) had 370 seats arranged 2-3-2 in premium and 2-4-2 in standard. How have they managed to get an extra 35 seats in?


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User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2285 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11003 times:

Quoting Bjornstrom (Reply 7):
405 people on a A333?

The Danish division of MyTravel (DK) has three A333s with more than 400 seats. During the summer, they usually fly from CPH, ARN, OSL and other Scandinavian cities to destinations in Spain, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, Cyprus, or other places close to the Mediterranean.

Quoting Bjornstrom (Reply 7):
Im not sure I'd like to pay 39k DKK for this when you can get a Star Alliance Round-the-World in Business Class on SQ (and others) for less

I totally agree with you. But you also have to remember that included in this price is hotels, most meals and excursions for three weeks.

[Edited 2006-04-15 10:37:35]


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User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2285 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10975 times:

Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 8):
The MYT A330-300 I came back from Cancun on in summer (OY-VKG) had 370 seats arranged 2-3-2 in premium and 2-4-2 in standard

According to www.mytravelairways.dk (see url below) OY-VKG and the two other A333s have 405/408 seats, while the single A332 has 360 seats, 49 in royal and 311 in tourist class. The A333 normally does not have any royal class. When it's flying in a one-class configuration, it has 3-3-3 seating in the front cabin.

http://www.mytravelairways.dk/index....ays.dk/main.asp%3FArticleID%3D2197



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User currently offlineBjornstrom From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10951 times:

Quoting RedChili (Reply 9):
I totally agree with you. But you also have to remember that included in this price is hotels, most meals and excursions for three weeks.

The CRTWSTAR1 with 15 stops / 24 flights on any Star Alliance carriers in Business Class is about DKK32000 (could not find the exakt price on a quick search) which still gives you more than $1k USD for hotels and meals.

Sure - its about the same price but compare flying a packed A333 with charter tourists with relaxed life in a SpaceBed on second floor 744 with SQ service  Wink

I just finished my CRTWSTAR3:
http://www.bjornstrom.se/index.php/rtw2006/



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User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10793 times:

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 2):
Why would they take it into YHM when MyTravel flies into YYZ for regularly scheduled service? Any ideas?

Cost and closer to Niagara Falls

Quoting RedChili (Reply 5):
Rdwooty is correct, they're going to Niagara. The airplane arrives at 14:05 on the 22nd, and leaves at 17:00 on the 23rd. So if you deduct the time spent in passport control, waiting for baggage, check-in, and security, they will have less than 24 hours outside of the airport.

They should be faster on their way than going trough YYZ as YHM is about
45 min. closer to the falls.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 6):
Some pretty cool routings. However, I wouldn't fancy spending that much time on an A330 with another 400 pax - not much room.

Agree 100 %........

Quoting RedChili (Reply 5):
I've heard rumors that the Concorde was also used for these kind of flights, but I don't know for sure.

If I remember right back in the early 90's, but it was quite expensive.

Cheers,


User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2318 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 10655 times:

Concorde definitely did round the world charters. They too carried their own mechanics.

User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 10593 times:

Surely they would use less fuel flying the opposite way round the world. Meaning less time for all on the aircraft and it would be a bit cheaper too!

User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 10513 times:

Quoting RedChili (Reply 10):
According to www.mytravelairways.dk (see url below) OY-VKG and the two other A333s have 405/408 seats, while the single A332 has 360 seats, 49 in royal and 311 in tourist class. The A333 normally does not have any royal class.

Thanks, interesting... in that case, is it possible that they re-fitted it slightly to make it compatible with the UK fleet? (As far as I know it was on lease to MYT UK all last summer.) I flew outbound on an A330-200, so it would seem that the -300 would need to be interchangeable on routes with the -200. I could have sworn it had the Premiair Gold cabin, but I could be mistaken... but the MyTravel inflight magazine definitely stated it as having 370 seats.

Also, they have no PTVs in standard like the -200s do... grrrr!  grumpy 



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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2179 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 10203 times:

Quoting Rdwootty (Reply 4):
Maybe they are just going to Niagara and the airport is nearer|?

 checkmark  or hopefully they are not going to Toronto and hence no point flying to YYZ.  Big grin

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 14):
Surely they would use less fuel flying the opposite way round the world. Meaning less time for all on the aircraft and it would be a bit cheaper too!

Yes, but this would mean a lot of redeye flights and people tend to better adjust to longer days than shorter days, at least when on vacation.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 10017 times:

Wow, 39,995DK, thats not bad, It's 6,400 US, not bad considering all you get... If I only had the $$...


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User currently offlineMytravel330 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 9375 times:

Nice to see they are using the right aircraft  bigthumbsup   Smile

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 8908 times:

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 3):

Cost.

YYZ is too expensive for an over-night stay.

1011yyz

So they picked SFO as well? In a C172 just landing costs you $118.00. Crazy ass prices here in the Bay Area.

Best.

Matt



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 8763 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 6):
Some pretty cool routings. However, I wouldn't fancy spending that much time on an A330 with another 400 pax - not much room.

Thats the first thing that I thought of, doesnt sound very comfortable to me.

Several tour operators do custom round-the-world trips with a dedicated aircraft.......usually these are superluxury arrangements with very, very comfortable aircraft equipped with biz class seats......say 60 to 70 persons on a 752. Obviously, the price card is very different and the tour being discussed here is very good value for the money, but again, thats an awful lot of time on an airplane with an uncomfortable seating configuration.


User currently offlineRIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 789 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 8680 times:

Back in the old days, PanAm 01 used to travel the globe on 707s with plenty of stops to your heart's delight. I believe the charge was about $10,000, or maybe even less. Somewhere along the line the flight number was changed to PanAm 02 before arriving back at Idlewide (JFK) today.

User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8142 times:

Most the charter airlines in the UK that operate the A330, don't just deprive you of seat pitch they also deprive you of your seat width too!

They operate them in a 3-3-3 accross as opposed to the 2-4-2 on most scheduled carriers operating this type!

Im surprised MYT-DK operates theres in the 2-4-2 config.


User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2285 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7903 times:

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 22):
They operate them in a 3-3-3 accross as opposed to the 2-4-2 on most scheduled carriers operating this type!

Im surprised MYT-DK operates theres in the 2-4-2 config.

I'm not 100 percent sure of the numbers, but I do believe that the A333 is certified for maximum 410 passengers (approximately). So if DK has 3-3-3 in the forward part of the cabin, and 2-4-2 in the middle and rear part, and they can still get 405 seats into the airplane, then there's really no reason to put another seat into each row.



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User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7764 times:

I have heard that this charter is for gamblers. They plan to hit as many casinos as possible, such as Fallsview and Casino Niagara.

Dripstick



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25 Fly_yhm : Andy gonna get some shots for us.
26 Swissy : HI Andy, Are you guys handeling the baby or is it WFS?? Cheers,
27 Post contains links and images WhyWhyZed : The fog here is pretty bad. Visibility is at 0.2km as of 20:00 EST. So when I drove up to see it, I never even bothered to get out my car for the pic
28 Post contains images Breiz : Nice fog And the reg is...?
29 WhyWhyZed : OY-VKH - Jason DePodesta
30 Breiz : Thanks a lot, Jason, Bernard
31 Post contains links RedChili : Spies has a journalist on the tour. He's writing a sort of blog, including pictures, about all places they're visiting. It's in Danish, and there are
32 Breiz : RedChili, on the pic taken at Hamilton, it looks like there is some sort of a sticker on the white mid-fuselage. Any clue?
33 RedChili : I have no idea. The pic is too small, and the journalist covering the tour is obviously not a spotter, since he has so far neglected to comment this
34 Post contains links Ha763 : They are 2 decals with the number 50. I'm assuming that it has to do with the 50th anniversay of Spies. One is a maroon color with number 50 and the
35 Post contains links Aifos : This french Tour Operator was the pioneer. http://www.tmrfrance.com/qui_sommesnous/ Every year they would charter Concorde for 21 days. A grand trip w
36 Breiz : Thanks a lot Ha763. Spies being Danish, the letters "AR" under the zero of 50 are in fact "ÅR (A with a small circle on top)" which means "year" in
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