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Disruption To BA010 SYD-BKK-LHR  
User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 19
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13114 times:

Did a search but couldn't find anything,

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/flightops/public/en_gb

Quote:

"British Airways flight BA010, operating Sydney-Bangkok-London Heathrow arriving on 15th April 2006, has diverted into Uralsk, Kazakhstan, following a technical problem.

Arrangements are being made to return customers on-board to London Heathrow as soon as possible.

British Airways apologises for the delay and any inconvenience caused."

"Passengers from the BA010 originally scheduled to arrive at London Heathrow this morning will be arriving on relief flights, between hours of 20:40 15th April 2006 and 03:15 16th April 2006 (local times)."

Anyone know what the "technical problem" is, or which plane this is ?

JC


"Our 319's are very reliable. They get fixed very quickly."
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User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13082 times:

There was a fire warning in the hold (Fire not confirmed) and the Capt. therefore activated the fire extinguishers, due to the foam used the aircraft diverted to Kazakhstan and it was a Boeing 747-400.

BA is doing all possible to bring these passengers back to LHR.

BP777

Edit : Just to mention this was on the BKK - LHR leg of the flight

[Edited 2006-04-15 19:26:46]


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User currently offlineBlooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13069 times:

More details here.

User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12974 times:

Thanks BritPilot777 and Bloo Birdie,

Quote from above link;

"Also understand there were two pallets of bees, one in the forward hold that suffered once the bottles were discharged and the second in the rear"

Is a pallet of bees a simple thing to move from one a/c to another when stuck in Kazakhstahn ? Would this require special handling or is it just a normal pallet in terms of cargo handlng ?



"Our 319's are very reliable. They get fixed very quickly."
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12918 times:

This is a rather tricky situation from a logistics point of view.....that BA cannot send in another 744 to pickup the pax travelling on BA 010 makes this situation rather difficult......sorting out the passengers into 3 separate recovery flights to be operated on A320s and A321s is not going to be pretty (will those flights be able to operate nonstop to LHR?) and there are gonna be lots of unhappy F and C class pax when they board their replacement aircrafts! Baggage and cargo are yet another issue. The good news is that everyone is fine and that, at the end of the day, this will be nothing more than an inconvenience for the pax and an expensive "pain in the butt" for BA.

I hope that the pax travelling on BA 010 today are in a very good and very cooperative mood and that BA sends out some very talented customer service agents to assist with this situation. The only hope is that the pax had many many cocktails at the airport bar while waiting for the A320s and A321s to take them home!


User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 2104 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12867 times:

At the end of the day most reasonable people will accept the plane landed where it did for safety reasons - potential fire in the hold being very serious. As long as that's explained properly and handled okay by BA, then anyone moaning and complaining is just being an a***hole in my opinion. Better a ride back in a A320 than a bodybag!


Let's Go British Caledonian!
User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12792 times:

Just got back from work, lots people asking about theses flights.
Luckly, we have a insider on the plane. One of our work mates is on it. Has been sending messages and we have been keeping him updated all day.
2 planes are going out, One going there and coming direct back, and one is going there, dropping pax of in DME, then coming back and collecting the rest of the passengers. No idea on baggaage and the like yet, we dont even have flight times and types of aircraft, though were told its A320s due to the airport.

Fun times for BA as normal, from what we hear the mood is good, and the captain fully explained the situation to the passengers


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12768 times:

By the way, does ANYONE, have a picture of aircraft at Uralsk airport.
I got a thing going with my supervisor, he will get me something from teh vending machine at work if i can find anything there, there is nothing in the database at all


User currently offlineSimong From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12667 times:

Quoting Trekster (Reply 6):
Fun times for BA as normal, from what we hear the mood is good, and the captain fully explained the situation to the passengers

I must say that in my past experience BA pilots have always done a wonderful, professional job of keeping passengers updated on irregular operations and not just leaving the situation to the inflight and ground crews to handle. I think that passengers (rightly or wrongly) seem to understand and accept the situation better when the information is regularly updated in a professional manner by the flight deck crew.



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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12661 times:

In this case, the crew were the only source of info, considering the only airline i can see so far that goes to that airport is Air Astania or what ever its know as. No pics at all onlin of the airport, no pics here or in the other sites.
Annoying


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12588 times:

I can't post much as this article is heavily copyrighted. It's in the Mail on Sunday though.

------
News
BA FLIGHT IS FORCED TO LAND...BY ANGRY BEES
16 April 2006
The Mail on Sunday
English
(c) 2006 Associated Newspapers. All rights reserved

By Daniel Boffey

MORE than 300 passengers were left stranded at a remote airport yesterday when a British Airways 747 made an emergency landing - because a swarm of bees had activated the plane's fire alarm.

BA spokesman Paul Parry said nobody had been hurt in the descent.

'Flight 010 did have a light come on in the cockpit over Kazakhstan, indicating there might have been a fire in the cargo hold,' he said. 'The captain released the automatic extinguishers in the cargo hold and diverted to Uralsk.

'On landing, they discovered there had been no fire. There was a consignment of bees in the cargo hold and our investigation will seek to establish if there was any connection between them and the light coming on.'

-----

Dow Jones & Reuters [FACTIVA] Document: MOSM000020060415e24g00028



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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 12524 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 10):
MORE than 300 passengers were left stranded

But not for long. The papers are going to make up alot about this, they always do


User currently offlineAussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12169 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 10):
I can't post much as this article is heavily copyrighted. It's in the Mail on Sunday though.

------
News
BA FLIGHT IS FORCED TO LAND...BY ANGRY BEES

I would have expected this crap from some of the Tabliod papers..... Let's just say it was the Bees that did it. I guess the Queen got upset at being in the hold and decided to go and push the fire button.... Unbelievable! Whatever it takes to sell newspapers I guess.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
and that BA sends out some very talented customer service agents to assist with this situation.

From my experience working at BA Customer Relations at Heathrow TBC, they may have some Managers meet the aircraft's coming inbound at LHR. They wouldn't necessarily send anyone out there.


User currently offlineBTCCMan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11822 times:

I can't tell you much about this flight diversion, but I did spend a morning at Uralsk Airport back in 1996 - just a bunch of An-2s, some L410s, a single Yak-40, a couple of Mil-8s and the Bristow Helicopters BAe 125! There was however, a fuselage with a CCCP registration by the far hangers, but the rest of the reg was behind some boxes - does anyone have any idea what it was? I am thinking IL-18 size...

User currently offlineBTCCMan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11809 times:

Possibly CCCP-75425, which was based there, but crashed in the Ukraine in 1975???

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11776 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
The only hope is that the pax had many many cocktails at the airport bar while waiting for the A320s and A321s to take them home!

Not likely in Kazakhstan



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8471 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11716 times:
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Slightly off topic... how the hell do you quarantine bees? I know that transporting honey between countries is a no-no because of the risk of infecting the bees in the country of destination with anything the original bees might have carried.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11653 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 16):
Slightly off topic... how the hell do you quarantine bees?

I would guess that you keep them in the boxes for a set amount of time. Still, I would hate to be the ramper that has to unload those things.



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User currently offlineDLH404 From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11401 times:

As with the bees. I once had a shipment of 3000 "matted bumble bees" in a crate. It seems there are somehow made lazy and tired.

BRGDS

Jan


User currently offlineLGWspeedbird From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10969 times:

Apparently to get the 747 out of there the only people that can be on the flight is the flight deck due to the runway length. I heard about this yesterday from one of the ladies on the tkt desk, glad all pax and crew are ok.

From what she was saying there will be a few A320s going out for pax and one for the bags.

LGWspeedbird



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10859 times:

Glad to hear that at the end all this is going to be is an inconvenience.

Anyone know the reg of the aircraft involved?



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User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10819 times:

I worked on from my late shift in Terminal 4 last night and met the BA877 and the BA875. Passengers were all fine, just very tired after a long, arduous journey. We (me and my colleagues) chatted with a lot of passengers who basically were very grateful that the Captain of BA10 executed an emergency descent from 37,000ft within 13 minutes.

Problems were caused in Uralsk (URA) by the airfield having no widebody handling equipment, including a lack of aircraft steps. However, the military personnel at URA took good care of the passengers in a hanger, and our crew ensured that food and drink were available. They even provided a TV to entertain the little kids!

3 aircraft were involved in the rescue mission, 2 x A320's and a B763. The first A320, BA877 arrived at T4 at 2309 from DME. The second, BA875 was the 767, G-BZHA and arrived at 0149, also from DME. The 3rd aircraft (A320) arrived at 0516 direct from URA as BA9204.

The A320's flew a 'shuttle' mission from URA to DME, to drop-off passengers onto the regularly scheduled (but delayed) BA875.

As we understand, bags and freight are going to be freighted back to the UK and are scheduled to arrive on Monday evening.

Around 25 customer service staff in Terminal 4 volunteered to stay on and help our customers with onward connections, transportation, hotels and so on. It actually all went very smoothly and our customers were quite understanding of the situation. I think they were just basically glad to be back home.


User currently offlineGBOAC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 221 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10590 times:

Quoting LHR777 (Reply 21):
Around 25 customer service staff in Terminal 4 volunteered to stay on

That is the BA and the BA staff I know and love!  bigthumbsup  I wasn't caught up in this (thankfully) but big thanks to you and your colleagues from this very regular BA flyer for having that helpful attitude and stepping up to help out like this - it's truly wonderful to read.

I've been following the developments on this one on various boards since yesterday and it seems to have all been handled perfectly. Everyone throughout the organisation seems to have performed amazingly well to fix this at what must be a very difficult remote airport to work with. I sincerely hope BA has its PR team ramping up to get some credit for their handling of this in the press (i.e. proper papers, not the Daily Mail  Yeah sure !) since normally it's only negative stuff which gets reported  Sad

Phil


User currently offlineEKGOLD From Australia, joined May 2005, 207 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10560 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
The only hope is that the pax had many many cocktails at the airport bar while waiting for the A320s and A321s to take them home!

Not likely in Kazakhstan

Beg to differ, both my trips to Kazahkstan (Almaty) in 2005 resulted in no sleep and plenty of Arak (Spelling??) consumed... "Choo Choo" as they say in Kazakh, meaning "just a little" when the bottle comes around!! BTW, fantastic people in Kazakhstan. Very friendly and hospitable (food and drink!!). Looking forward to the next trip...

Great work by BA in ensuring safety and relatively smooth transfer of all affected pax..


User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10549 times:

Quoting GBOAC (Reply 22):
That is the BA and the BA staff I know and love!    I wasn't caught up in this (thankfully) but big thanks to you and your colleagues from this very regular BA flyer for having that helpful attitude and stepping up to help out like this - it's truly wonderful to read.

No, a big thank you to you, our customers.  

(and welcome to my Respected Users list!)

[Edited 2006-04-16 13:12:50]

25 TAP340 : That is going to be one interesting take-off!
26 Climb1 : My thoughts exactly TAP340! Glad to hear everyone is ok!
27 CrossChecked : As cabin crew with BA, I must congratulate you on your post and your actions. It makes me proud to hear that there are still staff out there willing
28 LHR777 : Thank you. I had actually started my shift at 1.30pm, and worked until 4am. I'm enjoying a much-needed day off today, after some sleep. In Customer S
29 Dutchjet : Great work - its really good to hear that a difficult situation was handled so well and that the BA employees went to so much effort to help out the i
30 Post contains links ETStar : Here's an interesting bit: "Because the airport lacked stairs tall enough to reach the plane, passengers debarked by stepping onto the top of a tall a
31 Zeke : Most fire extinguishers I know of in aircraft are of the inert gas type, not foam. HEATHROW (EGLL) to URALSK (UARR) 1947 nm URALSK (UARR) to HEATHROW
32 VV701 : Two BA 744s left LHR for SYD on 12 April, G-BNLA (BA0009) and G-BNLN (BA0015). G-BNLN arrived back at LHR in the early morning of 15 April (BA0016).
33 Post contains links Zeke : http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...1.544998&spn=0.023743,0.085831&t=k
34 Mutu : G-BNLN left LHR as BA015 on 11 April and is not back yet either, suspect G_BNLA is still in SYD
35 Post contains links VV701 : According to LHR ACARS - see http://www.lhr-lgw.co.uk/heathrow/apr06/aprlhrba06/lhrba150406.html - G-BNLN flying SYD-LHR as BA0016 was on finals to L
36 Trekster : " target=_blank>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...1&t=k Of planes at the airport i mean, google earth will not do for my free choc bar lol
37 Lovinitflyboy : So I here, with the runway being so short that they still can’t get the speedbird out even with only having the flight crew on board. I was told by
38 Tristarsteve : NLA operated back to LHR after the third A320 left with the pax. It operated a pax service out of LHR Sun night.
39 N1120A : Yeah, there would be no reason to have to strip the interior of an empty 747 to get off a 2400m runway to fly less than 2000nm.
40 FlyCaledonian : Too many people in avaition and other travel industries think customers are a pain and inconvenience. Your attitude, and that of your colleagues, is
41 StealthZ : I was thinking that but thought perhaps altitude was a factor but no, the airport is only 36m above sea level. I guess the point is moot anyway as th
42 FlyCaledonian : I think you were quoting N1120A!
43 StealthZ : Indeed I was.. must've clicked the Quote button under the post instead of the one above!
44 Speedbird2155 : One of the things I've come to learn about BA staff in T4, (a significant portion at least) is that they are always willing to go the extra mile when
45 Trekster : This is why i like working for BA, no matter what department i call at LHR be it Term 1 2 or 3 i get a cheery voice on the other end of the phone will
46 Pictues : Air Canada had to do that once when a DC 8 landed at the wrong airport going to dorval, but landed in Cardiff 10 miles away. They had to strip the in
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