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No More Maho Beach In The Next Months?  
User currently offlineAircanada333 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 471 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10171 times:

Hi Folks!!!

I don't know if it's true but I heard from a friend that there will be no more Maho Beach in the next months because they want the runway to be longer.

I hope this is only dumb information because I would really like to go there in the future.

Benjamin  wave 


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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10171 times:

AFAIK it's the other side of the runway on which they are extending it. I highly doubt they would close Maho Beach.

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineAircanada333 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10163 times:

Quoting Komododx (Reply 1):
AFAIK it's the other side of the runway on which they are extending it. I highly doubt they would close Maho Beach

I really hope because it is one of my biggest dream to go there.



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User currently offlineTranceport From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10129 times:

I've never been there but just from the photos I don't see how they could extend it in the direction of Maho Beach anyway. Doesn't the runway already begin almost right over the fence there?

User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10101 times:

Quoting Tranceport (Reply 3):
I've never been there but just from the photos I don't see how they could extend it in the direction of Maho Beach anyway. Doesn't the runway already begin almost right over the fence there?

Ever seen Kai Tak airport?  Big grin


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 10036 times:

I also heard that there were plans to extend the runway on both sides, closing Maho Beach.


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User currently offlineJpdflymhtmlb From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 9992 times:

Maho Beach WILL NOT be closed. End of story.

Fly



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User currently offlineJsposaune From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9941 times:

Don't worry, the beach won't close. They may, however, move the threshold of the runway down a couple hundred feet. Don't forget, the road that runs parallel to the beach is the only access to that portion of the island. (Caravanserai resort, etc.)


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User currently offlineJumbojet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9931 times:

Quoting Jpdflymhtmlb (Reply 6):
Maho Beach WILL NOT be closed. End of story.

Fly

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User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9850 times:

Dont see why they would as it would only allow for about 10 extra feet! As well, the tides are too big an issue if you consider the possibilty of rising sea levels and tropical storms which would subject the runway in question to flooding!

Cheers,
Boeingfanyyz  airplane 



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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9728 times:
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Quoting Jsposaune (Reply 7):
Don't forget, the road that runs parallel to the beach is the only access to that portion of the island.

Is there any kind of warning to people driving on that road? I've seen the movies of what the jetblast does to the people hanging on the fence - I would think it would be even worse to a vehicle ...

(although I'm sure the thrill is immense, do those people really realize what kind of sandblasting they're about to receive?)

- litz


User currently offlineSocal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9722 times:

They should extend the runway on the opposite side, not the Maho beach side.  airplane 


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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3976 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9653 times:

Read all the earlier replies, people!

Quoting Jpdflymhtmlb (Reply 6):
Maho Beach WILL NOT be closed. End of story.



Quoting Jsposaune (Reply 7):
Don't worry, the beach won't close.


User currently offlineHS748 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9647 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 12):
Read all the earlier replies, people!

Why, are all those replies from planning experts who have seen the detailed plans for the runway extension? Or perhaps they're just amateurs assuming the runway won't be extended over the beach, in which case everyone else has the right to post their views too.


User currently offlinePawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9643 times:

Quoting Jpdflymhtmlb (Reply 6):
Maho Beach WILL NOT be closed. End of story.

Let's all go out there anyway and start a protest;
"We shall not be moved, unless the authorities decide to keep Maho Beach open!!!!" Just a suggestion. (I'm having a crappy day, so I am trying to be humerous.)
 Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile

JG



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User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9637 times:

Quoting Aircanada333 (Reply 2):
I really hope because it is one of my biggest dream to go there.

Yep... Me Too



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User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9610 times:

Can they really extend it too much on the other side? don't any aircraft taking off away from the beach have to bank hard right after take off because of a mountain?


John Hancock
User currently offlineGlasgow From Australia, joined Sep 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9566 times:

I'll third that!

Wanting to go for some time - will need to save a little harder for the fare!!

Quoting NEMA (Reply 15):
Quoting Aircanada333 (Reply 2):
I really hope because it is one of my biggest dream to go there.

Yep... Me Too


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9558 times:

Like it or not, SXM does indeed have plans to expand the runway over Maho Beach as part of their Master Plan. The runway would be extended into the sea by a few hundred feet, with the road going into a tunnel under the runway. Now, these plans are only the 3rd or 4th phase of SXM, and if it indeed ever were to happen, it would still be a few years away.

User currently offlineACAfan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 710 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9508 times:

OK people listen up.

1. Yes, they are expanding the runway into the Simpson Bay Lagoon. The Earth has already been moved.

2. They are not presently planning to expand the runway into the Ocean (over Maho Beach)

3. There is a road between the end of the runway fence and the Ocean. This is the holy grail of airline spotting.

4. The road connects Maho to the Beacon Hill district, and also connects Maho to nightspots like the Sunset Beach Bar, Bliss, Bamboo Bernies, etc.

5. The road is the ONLY access to these places.

6. There is no way to extend the runway without FIRST rebuilding the road, because otherwise there would be no access.

7. Therefore, you will always have access to Maho Beach and the end of the runway.



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User currently offlineACAfan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 710 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9481 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
Like it or not, SXM does indeed have plans to expand the runway over Maho Beach as part of their Master Plan. The runway would be extended into the sea by a few hundred feet, with the road going into a tunnel under the runway. Now, these plans are only the 3rd or 4th phase of SXM, and if it indeed ever were to happen, it would still be a few years away.

A tunnel?
Under a runway?
On St. Maarten?

They are more likely to build an 8-mile-long bridge to Anguilla!



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9460 times:

Don't believe it, just go to pjiae.com, and look up Phase III of their master plan, simple as that.

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8657 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9455 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 21):
Don't believe it, just go to pjiae.com, and look up Phase III of their master plan, simple as that.

Correct. Phase III, if necessary due to increased traffic, calls for the extension of the runway into the sea, and thus destroying Maho beach. However, I have heard that that is just a plan and that currently there is no need for phase III yet and therefore it is still many years away.


User currently offlineACAfan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 710 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9411 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 21):
Don't believe it, just go to pjiae.com, and look up Phase III of their master plan, simple as that.

I know it is in the plan.
Knowing how things work on St. Maarten, I doubt it will ever come into being.



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3976 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9318 times:

Quoting HS748 (Reply 13):
Why, are all those replies from planning experts who have seen the detailed plans for the runway extension?

Fair enough... maybe it was my insistance to go to SXM one day taking over!


25 CVG72 : Shouldn't they finish the airport first that's two years overdue now? Just a thought. CVG72
26 Post contains links Soundtrack : here is a trailer of St. Maarten... http://www.airutopia.com/airnew/clip3.htm
27 Bongo : Why do they want to extend the runway? Isn´t long enough for almost every plane, every loads ?
28 Post contains images Bomber996 : Not really... for instance the KLM 747-400 cant go directly back to Amsterdam because of the turn to avoid the hill. hey End up going to some other p
29 Jpdflymhtmlb : Because I have seen the plans for it in my airport design class...but that's just a class, so I must not be an expert... Fly
30 Post contains images Keego : Please Please Please dont close Maho Beach iv always wanted to go, i was lucky enough to visit Kai Tak but a few scoops at the Sunset Bar on Maho Beac
31 Post contains links and images EWS : View Large View MediumPhoto © Ward Callens You can see the current construction work in this photo. Lew
32 COA735 : Yeah, but they are still going to have to turn the same direction to avoid high terrain, even with a slightly longer runway. Those hills are really c
33 Post contains links Captainstorck : Quoted from http://www.sxm-airport.com/phase-two.html : The current situation at PJIA is in conflict with regulations of the International Civil Aviat
34 Dl757md : Couldn't they relocate the beach at the end of the lengthened runway? If they made a beach all around the extended portion it would actually increase
35 Post contains links and images Pawsleykat : Don't they have to go back to Curacao? Just, I think I saw it in a picture somewhere, there we go; View Large View MediumPhoto © Sam Chui JG
36 Devil505x : True because what would happen to the beach in front of the Sonesta. I highly doubt they would get rid of the beach. Thank You!
37 Tugpilot : I can really see them intentionally destroying a major tourist attraction (aviation fan or not, that beach is a hit) in order to lengthen a runway, wh
38 FRAspotter : Would it ever be possible to have the planes take off over Maho Beach if the wind was correct? I'm sure it isn't that black and white, but I was just
39 RL757PVD : They already do sometimes... Last weekend (8th) I was walking back from the Sunset Beach Bar and was pleasantly suprised to look down the runway and
40 COA735 : Yup...Ive seen this on Flightlevel350.com
41 Post contains images A342 : You take the words out of my mouth ! But they would also have to relocate the bar, wouldn´t they ?
42 Post contains links and images Phantomphixer : You may want to take a look here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YeUZqFBh7tw (I have more videos from that place but that one is relevant to our thread h
43 4holer : So build 300 meters into the bay and leave the beach side alone? Planes would be much higher over the beach, would that also kill the attraction?
44 COA735 : Nah, I'd still go there to spot. Landing aircraft will still be considerably low, even with a longer runway. I think the touchdown zone isn't going t
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