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User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2034 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5919 times:
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Remember easy sabre? I miss that, the whole command driven thing.

I think the flight command was something to the effect of

/flight, ewr,srq, 30APR, CO, Y

does any body remember the all of the commands and such. Hotel, car, etc.


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User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5889 times:

WHen I first worked at AA, 1974, we had to load paper in the back of a SABRE keyboard, pre-CRT's... and the clacking sound our callers heard as SABRE printed out the PNRs. 1 23 NOV JFK LAX 9A was the check availability entry. I remember most of the entries. 7t- (self-ticketing); 830 (tktng at the airport), 5#Irate pax; 4SSR WCHR NN1 LAX (wheel chair request at LAX)!

User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5862 times:

damned sabre has come a long way! if only they hadn't taken the best help system of any of the crs's and put it on the internet! what a shame.

i remember Easy Sabre used to be available to CompuServe subscribers, i had a blast, and what a great way to practice my formats in travel school.



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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5817 times:

Quoting B707Stu (Reply 1):
I remember most of the entries.

... and I still use them almost every day...  Wink

Seriously, I think for people who know what they are doing, replacing the command-driven interface with a graphical one is just about the worst thing you can do.



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User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5728 times:

Quoting Leskova (Reply 3):
Seriously, I think for people who know what they are doing, replacing the command-driven interface with a graphical one is just about the worst thing you can do.

I agree. The whole GUI issue has been driven by agencies and airlines wanting to reduce training time to make an agent fully functional and productive.

The original attempt was Planet Sabre, and that only lasted a very short time. For a lot of reservations centers and large corporate-focused agencies, Turbo Sabre really has been successful. (Although agents who are now restricted to follow the Turbo limits of their workflow would probably argue that!)

MySabre really has been a good approach in the sense that it starts slowly introducing a lot of functionality that a graphical environment can offer, yet still allowing hard-core green screen users (actually it's been blue for years now) to stick with the formats and workflow they are so comfortable with.

I have manuals and documentation from back in the late 70's to current, and it's sort of interesting to compare how certain formats have changed over the years, especially cars/hotels.



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User currently offlineBDL2DCA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5711 times:

I posted a while back asking if there was any service like EasySabre still around. Man I miss that site. Mostly because it let me build up segments rather than having to take the "top 30" that expedia or heck, top 3 that travelocity puts out.

I think that thread got 3 replies  frown 



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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5706 times:

We use Amedaus thru orbit desktop at BA, its about to get upgrade at long last, had a play with the new system and looks good, though nothing was working in it.
When i took calls from travel agents using the other systems, it sounded very complicated.
Even so, i still get confused with my system, and i have been here over a year now


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

Quoting Utapao (Reply 4):
I agree. The whole GUI issue has been driven by agencies and airlines wanting to reduce training time to make an agent fully functional and productive.

True - I guess people that are "fluent" in Sabre, Amadeus, Worldspan and Galileo are somewhat rare... though I shudder at the thought of having to use those systems through GUIs.

Within the company I work for, we still use Sabre for Windows here in Germany, while Switzerland and Austria were recently migrated to MySabre (though they were migrated from Worldspan and Amadeus respectively) - we're still holding off from migrating to MySabre here because of some functional deficits that it has compared to Sabre for Windows (at least for our purposes)...

But I agree that MySabre is quite a good system - though some of the Java-based parts of the GUI really could be more stable than they are... but I'm already seeing the GUI effect on some users: an employee in one of our agencies recently actually called the airline to book an AVML for a passenger, because the GUI-based selection wasn't working on her PC... I asked her why she didn't simply use one of the other PCs - or ask someone what the format was, but she didn't really have an explanation for that...



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User currently offlineCs03 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5574 times:
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Yes, Easy Sabre was fun, and easy to use! In conjunction with CompuServe, one got a manual in order to use "shortcuts" to minimize keystrokes. Hotel entries were: HOT,ALB.23JAN,2NGT,G/-(Credit Card Guarantee).
Car: CAR,ALB,23JAN,2NGT,ECAR.
(This is how I remember it)!


User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5537 times:

I really miss it a lot.


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User currently offlineLat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5500 times:

My favorite and most useful command was VIT AA 123 and so forth. (verify itinerary)This was good for spotters and those tracking actual stops of a flight. The response would be JFk LAX HNL ....everywhere it went. and i thing the block times would be included. The Eastern Sys one was a little different but good also. Always found PARS odd.

I'm with you. Low graphics, just the info please!


User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5430 times:

Quoting BDL2DCA (Reply 5):
I think that thread got 3 replies

I was one of the three.  Smile

But it was usually spelled Eaasy Sabre, with 2 a's for American Airlines.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5403 times:

I've used native SABRE, Sabre Qik, SHARES, and Open Skies. Some of the new SABRE windows based versions are easier to use, but I prefer the old DOS-type programs such as Open Skies and SHARES. You need to learn more to be successful at it. The new versions of SABRE were all "point and click". Not much skill involved.

User currently offlineMidway2AirTran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5387 times:

Personally, I can't say the words SABRE and easy in one sentence! I love Open Skies!!


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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5292 times:

Quoting Leskova (Reply 3):
Seriously, I think for people who know what they are doing, replacing the command-driven interface with a graphical one is just about the worst thing you can do.

Couldn't agree more... having to type, move hands to mouse, move mouse, click on the bouncing icon, click back in text field, start typing again can really slow you down.

The software that my livelyhood depends (not a CRS) is particularly inferiorating in this respect. While you can eliminate a large amount of clicking using their "speedkeys", you still have to click on the !#( @(#)$ "Logic" folder to use them. You can't even TAB to the logic folder; you then have to click on the symbol to enter the data. I hate programs that don't make use of Accellerators/Have a jacked up tab order/don't follow Windows conventions in other ways. End of Rant.

But then again, I'm the type of person who finds myself dropping to a console (aka DOS) window for just about anything.

Based on shoulder surfing I've done, it looks like CO and UA, at least, give agents the choice of their GUI soultion (which, for CO at least, looks pretty cool) or the CLI mode.

Lincoln



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