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New Airbus A310-300 For Air Transat!  
User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 19047 times:

Hi!

Just a short information saying that with the arrival of the A330-200 for TAP the A310-300 is starting to beeing phase-out. The first one to go is CS-TEZ and the new operator will be Air Transat. The canadian registration will be:

C-DTSF

Regards

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User currently offlineJayce From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 19036 times:

Are you sure it'll be C-DTSF? Most Canadian registrations are C-FXXX or C-GXXX. Still good for TS though, I wonder if they'll be opening up any new routes this summer.


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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 19024 times:

Hi Jayce!

well at least that's the registration that someone in a portuguese enthusiast forum shared there!!! I have no reason to doubt that!
regards


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 18857 times:

Probably will be C-GTSF.

User currently offlineSteph001 From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 315 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 18805 times:

Is Air Transat really looking for Airbuses 310? Why is that so, do they have routes that are too small for A330? I know RO had two A310 on storage (used for OTP-JFK and OTP-Canada) maybe Air Transat could buy them.

User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1892 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18779 times:

Quoting Steph001 (Reply 4):
Is Air Transat really looking for Airbuses 310? Why is that so, do they have routes that are too small for A330? I know RO had two A310 on storage (used for OTP-JFK and OTP-Canada) maybe Air Transat could buy them.

Air Transat needs spare rudders for the existing fleet  Smile
More seriously, A310s are ok for the Caribbeans both in terms of range and capacity. And their fleet is based on the A310.
And a fully serviced and operational A310 from TAP is most probably cheaper/safer than to overhaul one from long storage.


User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18754 times:

Quoting Steph001 (Reply 4):
I know RO had two A310 on storage (used for OTP-JFK and OTP-Canada) maybe Air Transat could buy them.

Well RO A310s are PW powered, and TS 313 are GE. May be wrong, but I don't think it would be a good move to add a third type of engine to its fleet. The 330 are RR powered.


User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18717 times:

Hi FCKC and Jayce!

Well let me back off a bit...you guys might be right....it could be actually C-GTSF....and this because if the registration was transmited by phone the G and the D can make confusion...and if the sequence of Air Transat is F or G you could be right!!!
I'll try to feedback that information ASAP and sorry for this confusion!
regards


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4773 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18676 times:

Why is that so, do they have routes that are too small for A330

Most of the summer European routes such as MAN, HAM, TLS, EXT etc would not make economic sense with the 360+ seat A330s. The aircraft is also a good size for some of their secondary departure points such as in western Canada to sun destinations. However, there have been quite a few problems including that one with the majority of a rudder being ripped off near Cuba.

Nevertheless, I will be flying TS transatlantic on the A310 for the first time this year, and I'm not really looking forward to it (I'm 6'4"), but Zoom was sold out and TS was much cheaper than any other option connecting through the continent. AC only has half-assed service for a few months in the summer to Manchester.


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4773 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18658 times:

and if the sequence of Air Transat is F or G you could be right!!!
I'll try to feedback


Its not just for Air Transat, its for every aircraft in Canada, from Schweizer gliders to the Airbus A340-500. Some older aircraft were registered CF-XXX but now they are all C-FXXX or C-GXXX.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24810 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 18648 times:

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8):
Most of the summer European routes such as MAN, HAM, TLS, EXT etc would not make economic sense with the 360+ seat A330s.

MAN see's the A330s almost daily in the summer.#
But you are right about the likes of EXT, EDI and NCL



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User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4773 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 18531 times:

MAN see's the A330s almost daily in the summer

This summer's schedule shows only A310-300s.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24810 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 18528 times:

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 11):
This summer's schedule shows only A310-300s.

Hmmm....they usually use the 332 to YYC and YVR from MAN, and occasionally to YYZ



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User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4773 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 18517 times:

Whoops, I forgot about the YVR and YYC flights  Smile Those look like they're A330-200s.

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24810 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 18517 times:

The MAN-YYC-YVR on a Friday is an A330.
Amadeus is showing all the MAN-YYZ flights as A330s also



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User currently offlineBurberry753 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 18364 times:

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8):

Nevertheless, I will be flying TS transatlantic on the A310 for the first time this year, and I'm not really looking forward to it (I'm 6'4"), but Zoom was sold out and TS was much cheaper than any other option connecting through the continent. AC only has half-assed service for a few months in the summer to Manchester.

If you cant get the extra legroom seats, get row 25, the two next the window if you know what i mean, its where the shape of the fusalage changes and the legroom is great there.  Smile


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 18295 times:

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8):
Most of the summer European routes such as MAN, HAM, TLS, EXT etc would not make economic sense with the 360+ seat A330s

WTF??? 363 seats on an a332??? Damn!! That must be some cramped-ass seating!!! Can't imagine being cooked up in an aircraft like that for 10 hours or something.



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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 18200 times:

That's normal for charter airlines. Pretty much all of the A330s operated by UK charters - MyTravel, Thomas Cook and Monarch - have 360+ seats, with 2-3-2 in the premium cabin (on Monarch it's rows 1-7 IIRC) and 3-3-3 in cattle class.


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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17652 times:

When I first saw the thread title I thought that Airbus had managed to keep the A310 line active. Also never give up on AI acquiring more 'tubbies' to its huge fleet of A310's.


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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 day ago) and read 16892 times:

Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 17):
That's normal for charter airlines. Pretty much all of the A330s operated by UK charters - MyTravel, Thomas Cook and Monarch - have 360+ seats, with 2-3-2 in the premium cabin (on Monarch it's rows 1-7 IIRC) and 3-3-3 in cattle class.

Wow amazing. I can hardly imagine. KLM has the a332's in a 250 pax confix, that's more than 100 pax extra!!! BA and CX have about the same amount of pax on a 744!



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User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4773 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 day ago) and read 16854 times:

Amadeus is showing all the MAN-YYZ flights as A330s also

Really? The Air Transat website shows A310-300s for the whole summer, both the nonstop flights and the few (like mine) that go through Glasgow.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24810 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 day ago) and read 16552 times:

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 20):
Really? The Air Transat website shows A310-300s for the whole summer, both the nonstop flights and the few (like mine) that go through Glasgow.

Amadeus is now showing A310



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User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 23 hours ago) and read 16011 times:

any chance that A310 will be on a hybrid tAP old colors/transat titles?  Wink

User currently offlineBeechnut From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 719 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (8 years 23 hours ago) and read 15988 times:

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 9):
Its not just for Air Transat, its for every aircraft in Canada, from Schweizer gliders to the Airbus A340-500. Some older aircraft were registered CF-XXX but now they are all C-FXXX or C-GXXX.

Actually C-IXXX is valid as well, and is reserved for ultralights.

Also, you can still carry CF-XXX registration on your aircraft if it is a "vintage" aircraft, or if it is an aircraft registered before 1974. In the latter case however, if it is not a vintage aircraft, the registration must be changed to C-FXXX at the next repainting.


User currently offlineTAP340 From Portugal, joined Oct 2004, 102 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 20 hours ago) and read 14859 times:

Quoting CV990 (Thread starter):
The first one to go is CS-TEZ and the new operator will be Air Transat.

Saw the plane on TAP Maintenance % Engineering hangar when I was there.  Smile


25 YOW : As an aside, a couple of years ago at the Haines Juntion, Yukon airport, I saw a small aircraft carrying the CF-XXX registration. It musn't have ever
26 CV990 : Hi! Confirmed...the ex: CS-TEZ is NOW C-GTSF!!! The plane will leave LIS today the 18th. April around 7:00 AM, destination YYZ.....canadian fellows, c
27 Captaingomes : Will it be in TP or TS colours? Thanks for the heads up!
28 Post contains links QB737 : Strange, it doesn't show in Transport Canada datebase. http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/activepages/ccarcs/en/current_e.asp#quick
29 CV990 : Hi! The plane is in basic Air Transat colours ( blue tail and white fuselage ) and no titles...and canadian registration!!! regards
30 Post contains images BeechNut : If my experience buying my three most recent aircraft is any guide, it often takes a while for the TC database to get updated after a transaction. Th
31 ReidYYZ : It went to YUL for mtce. First flt may 12th to CUN. Beyond the usual pond jumping, Madrid is a new destination this summer.
32 Post contains images MD90fan : Wow, I didnt think they would be adding more of these tubbies, instead I thought they would be getting rid of them! Well looking at how long they kept
33 RicardoFG : My dream of once again seeing a TP bird in YYZ crushed again!
34 TK787 : I thought TK would get rid of theirs after all the 330s arrive, but I learnt here that they are the workhorse, and will be kept for a long time. They
35 Post contains images MD90fan : They have 1 A313F, so the others could be converted or FedEx will snatch 'em up.
36 DFORCE1 : Why doesn't Air Transat fly domestic anymore?
37 YUL332LX : As a result of the Caledonia mini-crisis, TS will fly domestically this weekend. YUL-YYZ.
38 Post contains images QB737 : I should have think of this, what to expect from goverment employees
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