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AA Will Likely Start MIA-PHX  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32880 posts, RR: 71
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

Rumours has it to expect American Airlines to announce daily service between Miami and Phoenix very soon. In a surprising move US Airways/America West are pulling out of the route in July (in the middle of peak travel of all times), and AA will quickly be replacing them. Due to the fleet being tightly assigned in July, the start date is likely 4 September 2006, daily 757-200. Not 100% confirmed, but I wouldn't post it if I were not confident this is happening.


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User currently offlineNicksair From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 484 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5356 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
In a surprising move US Airways/America West are pulling out of the route in July (in the middle of peak travel of all times), and AA will quickly be replacing them.

Is there a reason why US/HP is pulling out?
Nick



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User currently offlineMIA767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5343 times:

AA used to fly MIA-PHX daily so it's really not surprising they're going back at it again, US/HP dropping out of it that is really surprising though.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32880 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5323 times:

Quoting MIA767 (Reply 2):
AA used to fly MIA-PHX daily so it's really not surprising they're going back at it again, US/HP dropping out of it that is really surprising though.

AA has never flown MIA-PHX. They have flown MIA-SAN in the past, another route which will hopefully be coming back this December.



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2926 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5272 times:

It's about time. I know AA has announced they are not planning any major domestic capacity increases this summer, but there are certain holes in their MIA operations that should be filled, most notably MIA-PHX, MIA-SAN and of course MIA-SEA. Also any word on the much rumored 4th MIA-SFO flight, or is that on hold too?

User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

MAH4546, just curious what your source is that US/HP is dropping MIA-PHX in July ? This is news to some US folks I know at MIA and the website is still selling seats MIA-PHX nonstop in mid-late July.

Thanks

LGA777


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5912 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5222 times:
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It would be great if AA or AS would start a morning departure and an evening return on the SEA-MIA run.

User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5208 times:

Hopefully the timing with work for connections to the Caribbean flights. But witht he history of AA in Phoenix, they will operate the flight for a few months and drop it like JFK, STL, LAX, SJC....

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32880 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5158 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 7):
Hopefully the timing with work for connections to the Caribbean flights. But witht he history of AA in Phoenix, they will operate the flight for a few months and drop it like JFK, STL, LAX, SJC....

The flight is here to stay, especially because US Airways is ending the route. AA will not let two of the largest cities in the US be left without non-stops.

Quoting LGA777 (Reply 5):
MAH4546, just curious what your source is that US/HP is dropping MIA-PHX in July ? This is news to some US folks I know at MIA and the website is still selling seats MIA-PHX nonstop in mid-late July.

It is no longer on GDS after the end of July.



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User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

I haven't read anything about the discontinuing of the flight. It's possible they may run it seasonally only now, in the winter. It's also possible they may be turing the run over to US operated flights...that happened with the LAS flight and it disappeared in availability for a while. The new schedules should be updated shortly.

User currently offlineRIOJANEIRO From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4888 times:

As a frequent MIA flyer, I'm very surprised to hear that HP/US is cancelling PHX-MIA. In our systems, PHX-MIA is still available for sale well into July. It could be possible that as FlyboyAZ said the flying might go all to US (LAS-MIA is already all US-East operated).
I'm surprised especially since these flights seem to *always* be full (albeit with a large no-show factor,and yes, loads don't equal profits), and I'm assuming they pull a better yield than FLL (and FLL is served 3x daily PHX, 1X daily LAS)
They also recently changed the times from a 7pm arrival to a 3:30 pm arrival (leaves PHX now at 9am, as opposed to 12p)


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4862 times:

Good to see AA continuing to build up MIA. What's the next rumored destination from MIA?


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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11701 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

I assume that if this route does indeed launch, it will likely be a 19:30-20:00 MIA departure, and perhaps an 06:00-07:00 PHX departure?

User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4804 times:

When I was back east the beginning of Feb, it was just about the time that HP/US announced that RDU/MIA - LAS would be turned over to US metal. As I connected through RDU on a PHX-PHL, it sparked conversation with the gate agents because they couldn't understand why I would connect and pick RDU. While talking, they did mention that they believed that RDU and as well MIA because of the LAS route transition would actually become complete US metal cities. There was another city or two that was mentioned as being transfered from HP to US metal, and I can't remember (thank you F upgrade and a few drinks) but I think BDL was one of them.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):

AA has never flown MIA-PHX. They have flown MIA-SAN in the past, another route which will hopefully be coming back this December.

 checkmark ..I think they have left MIA a bit neglected lately....would be nice to see some more transcons out of MIA..(not that it affects me, as AA already flies SFO-MIA)..

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
the start date is likely 4 September 2006, daily 757-200. Not 100% confirmed, but I wouldn't post it if I were not confident this is happening.

interesting...with MIA being a 738 base, I would have thought they would start with 738's first......then moving up to the 752's if the flights were doing well...



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User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4734 times:

MIA-LAS is already all-US, and I suspect that what you're seeing is simply a bit of lag time between the HP PHX-LAS flight being discontinued and the US flight being loaded into the schedule. FLL-LAS will also become a US East 757.

One PHX-MEM flight has been upgraded to a 733.



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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

As a yearly traveler between Medellin and San Diego, it would be extremely convinient if AA would indeed start MIA-SAN, departing Miami in the afternoon. It simply sucks to go to BOG in order to catch DL to ATL and then to SAN.


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 13):
As I connected through RDU on a PHX-PHL, it sparked conversation with the gate agents because they couldn't understand why I would connect and pick RDU.

Now tell the truth.. wouldn't it be sooooo much better if when you connected at RDU that they had an authentic North Carolina BBQ establishment in the terminal.. Mmm.. nothing better than some good ole non-sauce BBQ..



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4607 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
interesting...with MIA being a 738 base, I would have thought they would start with 738's first......then moving up to the 752's if the flights were doing well...

There is a chance they are worried about weight out of PHX on some days.



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User currently offlineZChannel From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 7):
Hopefully the timing with work for connections to the Caribbean flights. But witht he history of AA in Phoenix, they will operate the flight for a few months and drop it like JFK, STL, LAX, SJC....

American used to fly between PHX and LAX? When? What a/c did they use?



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11701 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

Quoting ZChannel (Reply 19):
American used to fly between PHX and LAX? When? What a/c did they use?

Well, AA mainline flew it for years from at least 1933 through the mid to late 1970s. The route was cut, I think sometime in the mid to late 1980s, and then returned in 2001 being flown with mainline MD80s, and then later with Eagle RJs. The route was finally cut again in about 2003 when Eagle moved RJs out of LAX to other hubs in DFW and MIA.


User currently offlineCM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
AA has never flown MIA-PHX. They have flown MIA-SAN in the past, another route which will hopefully be coming back this December.

Yes they did, probably before 2001. I remember once having the opportunity to go on it, but decided to connect on DFW to arrive earlier to PHX, I believe that MIA-PHX arrived at PHX around 10:00 pm.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):

There is a chance they are worried about weight out of PHX on some days.

I don't see a problem...the 738's are more than capable.........



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User currently offlineMah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4389 times:

I could see why US would pull out of MIA and that's because they have a larger prescence in FLL. I think US would rather focus on its FLL operations than on its MIA operations, but if the route is just changing to US East then perhaps they aren't even cutting it at all.

User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2369 posts, RR: 26
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4370 times:

Quoting CM767 (Reply 21):
Yes they did, probably before 2001. I remember once having the opportunity to go on it, but decided to connect on DFW to arrive earlier to PHX, I believe that MIA-PHX arrived at PHX around 10:00 pm.

AA has never served MIA-PHX. This coming from someone who has worked and lived here since AA took over EA's operation.



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25 MIA767 : Yes American did used to fly MIA-PHX I think it was a couple years ago on a 757
26 Doug : Some of us AA Miami fans have been waiting for years for this announcement.AA has never flown this route nonstop out of Miami trust me I know as well
27 BigGSFO : AA still serves these markets on Eagle jungle jets. But mainline, no. When was this discontinued? Were the yields that terrible?
28 Ckfred : MAH4546: You've said in the past that AA would do well flying MDW-MIA. Has there been any discussion of starting that route? To the best of my knowled
29 AirCop : No they have not. I have flown AA for the past 11 years out of PHX, and a non-stop to Miami was never an option.
30 AJMIA : Also cancelled from MIA... MIA-CZM MIA-ANU MIA-GND MIA-LGW MIA-BAQ MIA-MTY MIA-BQN MIA-HOU I have heard rumors that CZM, ANU, GND, BAQ, and BQN might
31 Post contains images AA767400 : No they never have. But you are free to believe whatever you want.
32 JetBlueLuv : THIS IS VERY MUCH OVERDUE!!! Everytime I flew to PHX to see family, the 90-seat RJ was overbooked...totally insane...even tho it was a 90-seat RJ, 4.
33 Cltguy : So why did you connect in RDU?
34 Mah584jr : I don't see why American would have the need to fly to MDW. They already have a hub at ORD. Not to say that pax wouldn't take this flight, just that
35 B752OS : They, MIA, were supposed to have TZ start up flights to MDW, but that got stopped around the time they stopped flights to BOS, EWR and MSP. Ofcourse
36 Hawk44 : That is probably whats going on, word would have spread already about the flight being totally cancelled. Hawk44
37 Flyboy7974 : Well, main reason was to book and fly on the ERJ170. Was booking a trip PHX-PHL-LAX-FLG, and being a HP Gold Elite, I booked with my new US numbers ov
38 MAH4546 : BHM and SAN have always been rumoured, but as with all domestic expansion for AA from all their hubs, it is slow and careful. 757 is more suited for
39 Flyboyaz : I think that is the case. Our new site will be a revamp of the old HP site...so I would basically expect just cosmetic changes to the current site. I
40 Flyboy7974 : flyboyaz - great to see you still around. let's hope for the best through the merger right? fat got a mainline flight, can we only wish the best for y
41 AA767400 : MAH4546, What do you see as the next international city for AA?
42 MAH4546 : Bombay, India is looking very likely for late 2006/early 2007, from Brussels. It's definitley not set in stone, but they haven't done a good job keep
43 AA767400 : I have heard this before too. Seems the way to go since they don't have enough 772s for a non-stop. Can they get the rights to fly to another country
44 MAH4546 : Yes, very easily. In fact, seeing that US/Belgium have Open Skies, US/India have Open Skies, and I am pretty sure India/Belgium have a very liberal a
45 Captaink : I am dying to see MIA/GND restart. Getting home is a real pain in *** finding my way to SJU then flying 2.5 hours to GND on an ATR72.
46 Jacobin777 : I was thinking about the cost and if AA have the ability to fill the plane up....
47 MAH4546 : There will be no issues filling up the plane, and the 757 is better to operate on lower-yielding routes. Cheaper per/person. 738s are reserved for hi
48 BigGSFO : Mark, any chance of seeing that 4th MIA-SFO anytime soon, or is it on hold?
49 MAH4546 : Almost any new domestic routes/frequencies added at MIA will be added in November and December 2006, with the exception of the Phoenix service which
50 Jacobin777 : that was basically what my question/comment was..if they can fill those 757's...and where do they plan on getting those 757's from anyway? I can't re
51 MAH4546 : They are tight on aircraft, but not that tight. Especially with the flight most likely being a redeye.
52 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ok...
53 MD90fan : MAH4546: I've been reading the same rumors about AA MIA-ANU,GND,XNA,BHM and BCN as well as other destinations in the Bahamas, but which one of these h
54 Jetdeltamsy : Where do you get your information from? Internal info like that is rarely available to the public.
55 MAH4546 : It is always hard to tell because AA really takes a long time to evaluate new routes, and doesn't launch new routes as often as other carriers, notea
56 MD90fan : What about any expansion from SJU? I went there last week and realised AA/AE runs that airport! What about SJU-NAS? I dont know about O&D traffic, bu
57 BigGSFO : It would be nice if they restarted their delivery schedule of 738's sooner than later.
58 MAH4546 : I have no idea what they are planning for SJU, but it certainly won't be NAS.
59 AJMIA : An early am departure to LAS would be nice. Between the local market and the inbound connections from deep S. America I imagine the flight would do we
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