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Did LTU Fly Dusseldorf-Daytona Beach Nonstop?  
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4430 times:

I was talking to a friend earlier today, she told me that she wants to fly to DAB in a few months to visit some relatives there. She complained that there is no nonstop flight and that she has to change planes at least one time. I told her that LTU is flying nonstop from DUS to DAB and she said that she will take a look at LT's website later. I just got a call from her, she told me that LTU isn't flying DUS-DAB nonstop..... I just looked as well and saw that she is right.

Did LT fly to DAB in the past? I am almost 100% sure that there was a nonstop flight.

When did they discontinue these flights?

Patrick

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User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 313 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

Yep...Not sure exactly when it was dropped but I think it was either late 90s or early 2000s. The Int'l Terminal looks mighty empty now...

User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 999 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

It ended in 1997, my first year at ERAU, so only 9 years ago.


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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4351 times:

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 2):
so only 9 years ago.

Wow, I am so up to date when it comes to the LTU schedules.  Wink At least they flew to DAB, so I am at least a bit right.  Wink

Thanks for clarification!

Patrick


User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

LTU used to fly a non-stop B767 to DAB, which continued to Fort Myers, if am not mistaken.

The service was discontinued in 1997 i think. It was also my first year during undergraduate at ERAU. After so many years, i'm back for my masters and the international terminal is just plain dead.

Roni



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User currently offlineTu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 683 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4305 times:

It went DUS-DAB-ADZ(San Andres, Colombia) with an L-100-500. It then operated DUS-DAB-MIA-DUS with the 767-300ER and MD-11.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4245 times:

According to the Winter 1995-'96 timetable I have, the flight was operated as LT916 nonstop DUS-DAB with an L-1011 every Thursday.

Quoting Tu154m (Reply 5):
It went DUS-DAB-ADZ(San Andres, Colombia) with an L-100-500.

Correct. Also operated every Thursday and through DAB. DUS-DAB-ADZ was operated as LT420. However sometime later, the flight was tagged on to flight LT932 (I remember because my flight left to ADZ when I arrived) and was operated with an MD-11. The routing was DUS-MIA-SJO-ADZ, and this was in December 1997, more or less when DAB was axed.


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4222 times:

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 4):
The service was discontinued in 1997 i think. It was also my first year during undergraduate at ERAU. After so many years, i'm back for my masters and the international terminal is just plain dead.

For what its worth, theres a UAL Express CRJ-200 sitting there in the dark, I just drove past it 15 mins ago  Wink


User currently offlineRiddlePilot215 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4218 times:
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Just to add my 2 cents...It'd be nice to see LTU come back to DAB, even it was just winter and spring seasonal service  Smile If you want to see the world stop at ERAU for at least 2 minutes, bring one of LTU's big birds in here  Smile


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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4214 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Thread starter):
Did LT fly to DAB in the past? I am almost 100% sure that there was a nonstop flight.

When did they discontinue these flights?

You certainly are right, they did fly to DAB in the past. As others mentioned above, they stopped shortly before 2000.

I remember in 2001 when I was moving from Frankfurt to Daytona Beach I was looking into flying LT in FirstComfort. Sadly I could not find Daytona Beach on their destination list so I settled for DL via ATL.

SR 103


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

Quoting Tu154m (Reply 5):
It went DUS-DAB-ADZ(San Andres, Colombia) with an L-100-500.



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 6):
Correct. Also operated every Thursday and through DAB. DUS-DAB-ADZ was operated as LT420. However sometime later, the flight was tagged on to flight LT932 (I remember because my flight left to ADZ when I arrived) and was operated with an MD-11. The routing was DUS-MIA-SJO-ADZ, and this was in December 1997, more or less when DAB was axed.

a ok, I always thought the flight to ADZ was operated Nonstop with tag on to SJO....

it would be great if LTU would reinstall the flights to ADZ



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 10):
it would be great if LTU would reinstall the flights to ADZ

And SJO as well, but preferably if only as a direct flight and not nonstop, then at least with a stop in the Dominican Republic, Jamaica or Cuba, though DE probably has the market for themselves at the moment when it comes to Germany to Central America flights. Most PAX would be VFR anyway, so this could make the route unprofitable for LT (at least with their current business model). If LT could come back to the roots of being only a holiday carrier, perhaps this could change.


User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 983 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4000 times:

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 2):
It ended in 1997, my first year at ERAU, so only 9 years ago.

'97 was my first year at Riddle too.



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User currently offlineCptGermany From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

Quoting RiddlePilot215 (Reply 8):
If you want to see the world stop at ERAU for at least 2 minutes, bring one of LTU's big birds in here

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Direct DAB-Germany service would be a great treat. I personally would prefer a DE763 service DAB-FRA.  bouncy 

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 4):
the international terminal is just plain dead

I run by there three times a week and it is a quite sad site.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3818 times:
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LTU started DAB not too long before I left in 1996. They initially started with L-1011-500's. I don't know if I have photos of it. I'll have to look. I remember seeing a MD-11 there once.

Off the subject...but Rich International had charters out of DAB during the 1990's also.


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3685 times:

Quoting CptGermany (Reply 13):
I run by there three times a week and it is a quite sad site.

When was the international terminal built? From what I understand, there is only one gate (jetway). Does anyone use it at all? If not, is the building simply closed? What a shame...



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User currently offlineMicstatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3667 times:

I can't recall any jet ever using the intl jetway in the near past. I know that alot of biz jets do utilize the customs service. They are on duty 24 hours obviously, thus allowing the airport to call itself international.
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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1954 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3624 times:

I attended Embry Riddle in the late 70's and on several occasions back then, during spring break, I flew in and out several times on EAL's L1011's to ATL....There was one even leased from Air Canada in full A/C colors with Eastern titles! This was done from the old terminal and without airbridges. It was fun lugging up the several flights of portable airstairs!

User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

Quoting Micstatic (Reply 16):
I can't recall any jet ever using the intl jetway in the near past.

Last year the Patriots used it to board a 767 after they won the Super Bowl


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3546 times:
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While I went to ERAU from 1989-1996, DAB managed to get a couple of Canadian carriers...Canadian and Intair.

LTU used the building that was the old terminal at DAB. At the time I was there, there were no jetways...they used airstairs.


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1954 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3532 times:

Crownvic being stupid...I don't think it had Eastern titles, but was in full AC colors!

User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 313 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

Since we expanded the topic a bit...Didn't AC try some seasonal service from DAB to YYZ for a bit?

User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

Quoting Rookinla (Reply 21):
Since we expanded the topic a bit...Didn't AC try some seasonal service from DAB to YYZ for a bit?

Yes, I believe they did a few years ago, using CRJs (just like they did with Jacksonville). It didn't last long, however.

On another note, why is there such a decrease in traffic in the Daytona Beach area? Have tourists gone elsewhere in Florida? Did the "spring break" reputation keep tourists away in droves?



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4717 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

Quoting Matt (Reply 22):
Yes, I believe they did a few years ago, using CRJs (just like they did with Jacksonville). It didn't last long, however

Actually it never started to begin with, they were going to be Sat only flights, but they didnt have or arrange any packages to go with it, so they cancelled it before it began.

Quoting Matt (Reply 22):
On another note, why is there such a decrease in traffic in the Daytona Beach area? Have tourists gone elsewhere in Florida? Did the "spring break" reputation keep tourists away in droves?

Tourism and airport traffic have been better in recent years, its just not the ourism that Daytona is known for. Spring breakers are mostly gone and it has become more of a family/condo/timeshare destination.


On another note the evidence of german charters can still be found in DAB's INTL terminal as well as the domestic terminal. The internation charters have Signs in English German and i believe Spanish was the 3rd language.

Also on the ground at Gate 3, L-1011 markings can be seen The aircraft was an L1011 for a few eyars I beleive and it departed form the domestic terminal.



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User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 23):
On another note the evidence of german charters can still be found in DAB's INTL terminal as well as the domestic terminal.

So what efforts, if any, are the airport authorities doing to attract international traffic at the moment? Is the terminal per se closed (shops, concession stands)? I know there are immigration/customs officers, but since no airlines fly in or out of the terminal, I imagine that the "terminal" portion is closed.



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25 RL757PVD : The international terminal is the former passenger terminal, so its old and there are no concessions. There is a small departure lounge used by Vinta
26 Post contains images PanAm330 : Now that we're more or less off topic , I figured that I'd join in. Has anybody heard anything about new and/or expanded service to DAB? Like DL resta
27 B6sea : Daytona is in the middle of a transition right now. Having vacationed there in my grandparents condo for the last 8 years or so, I've noticed a lot of
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