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Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL  
User currently offlineATLIEN From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 14 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8315 times:

Gate B-19 and B-20 are being converted to handle Delta Connection flights. The flights will begin next month and there will be roughly ten flights a day out of each gate. B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service, and B-20 currently only handles the 737-200.

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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8275 times:

These are both right by the Spine aren't they?

Quoting ATLIEN (Thread starter):
B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service,

Really? Never paid attention to it in all the times I walk past it. You would think they could shoehorn something in there given the decent wingspan of the 727.



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User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8270 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
These are both right by the Spine aren't they?

Yes.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8260 times:

Quoting DeltaSFO (Reply 2):
Quoting ATLIEN (Thread starter):
B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service,

Really? Never paid attention to it in all the times I walk past it. You would think they could shoehorn something in there given the decent wingspan of the 727.

Never noticed B-19 wasn't used either...then again, I'm probably mixing it up with A-19, which I seem to use way too often (along with A-10 and D-36...I just arrived into A-19 last night). Still, it's going to be a little strange seeing the regionals mixed in with the big boys in ATL...will it be Chautauqua using these gates or the mix of Comair/ASA like in D?

Jeff


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8244 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
You would think they could shoehorn something in there given the decent wingspan of the 727.

Wing location and the larger rake helped the 727 fit into tight spots.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8230 times:

They've got to be nuts! ATL's so crowded now, I'd hate to be able to remember what the OLD terminal was like!


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User currently offlineATLIEN From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8191 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 3):
will it be Chautauqua using these gates or the mix of Comair/ASA like in D?

I think it might be just Chautauqua as of right now.


User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8135 times:

Or it could be Shuttle America with the E-170's. I think they are starting some flights out of ATL, hence the need for jetways which the C and D gates would not be able to accomadate.


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User currently offlineDL763DFW From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8119 times:

Talking to the supervisor in charge of the effected zones, he said it would be only Chatauqua as of right now. Also, it'll be DL employees working them... not ASA or anyone else. It ought to be interesting to see!

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8080 times:

Will indeed be an unusual site, but if ATL has two empty gates that can't handle mainline planes but are idea for RJs, why not use them? After all, ATL is trying to do everything to add new gates (or in this case reactivate them) to increase capacity, seeing as how they won't be adding any new terminals soon.

User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7944 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Wing location and the larger rake helped the 727 fit into tight spots.

Does an MD-88 have a greater wingspan than a 727?



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1881 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7934 times:
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Quoting DL763DFW (Reply 8):
be DL employees working them... not ASA or anyone else. It ought to be interesting to see!

What's so interesting about that. Every where else with the exception of CVG and SLC, its DL employees that handle the DCI flights.



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7824 times:

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 10):
Does an MD-88 have a greater wingspan than a 727?

No, the 727 has a larger wingspan than the MD-88.

Jeremy

Quoting ATLIEN (Thread starter):
B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service

Why can't the 73S use this gate, it has a smaller wingspan than the 727?

Jeremy


User currently offlineATLIEN From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7776 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 12):
Why can't the 73S use this gate, it has a smaller wingspan than the 727?

I am not sure why B-19 was not converted to 737-200 service, it might have to do with B-21 only handling the 757-200 therefore it might not be enough space, B-17 only gets the 737-200 as well.


User currently offlineBeertrucker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7748 times:

Quoting ATLIEN (Reply 13):
I am not sure why B-19 was not converted to 737-200 service, it might have to do with B-21 only handling the 757-200 therefore it might not be enough space, B-17 only gets the 737-200 as well.

I have seen why they do that a few times when i was in ATL. They over lap the wings. 757 over top the 737-200. not by much. but there is a little of an overlay of the wings.



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User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 7681 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 12):
No, the 727 has a larger wingspan than the MD-88.

Thats what I thought, but it makes me wonder why B-19 was only for the 727 and not for any other aircraft.



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7588 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7644 times:

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There are the gates in discussion. There is a 737-200 in gate B-19 in the photo. B-20 as said, isn't being used at the time. It looks like B-20 has a really short jetbridge, hence why even the 737-200 can't fit in there. The 727-200 would be able to due to the wing position farther back on the fuselage.


User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7614 times:

Quoting ATLIEN (Thread starter):
B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service, and B-20 currently only handles the 737-200.



Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):
There is a 737-200 in gate B-19 in the photo. B-20 as said, isn't being used at the time. It looks like B-20 has a really short jetbridge, hence why even the 737-200 can't fit in there.

Which one of you is correct? It also appears to me that the gate labled B20 in the above photo has more room than the one labled B19.



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7561 times:

Quoting Ilikeyyc (Reply 17):
It also appears to me that the gate labled B20 in the above photo has more room than the one labled B19.

Definitely not. The northern 'boundary' of gate B20 are the two rows of baggage carts right to left of where B20 is written. Everything above that is already B22.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7518 times:

B-20 has been used as a mail/cargo staging area for a number of years now. Used to piss me off when my route with my previous employer was B Concourse, as they'd park mail carts where the vendors were supposed to park at.

User currently offlineWDBRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7491 times:

Were B19 and B20 the former Eastern gates?
I know DL had one side and EA had the other side.


User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7477 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
Definitely not. The northern 'boundary' of gate B20 are the two rows of baggage carts right to left of where B20 is written. Everything above that is already B22.

Then appearances are deceiving. So back to my original post, are the gates labled correctly in the photo? Because the thread starter and photo contradict eachother. One says b19 is not in use the other says b20 is not in use.



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User currently offlineTu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 682 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7407 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):
There are the gates in discussion. There is a 737-200 in gate B-19 in the photo. B-20 as said, isn't being used at the time. It looks like B-20 has a really short jetbridge, hence why even the 737-200 can't fit in there. The 727-200 would be able to due to the wing position farther back on the fuselage.

Actually you have the gates labeled backwards. B-20 takes 732s all day long and all even gates are on the west side of the terminals in ATL. The view you have is looking North. B-19 has been shoved into the corner like in the pic for awhile. I think the tires are flat!!!



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7290 times:

Hadn't even realised the gates were designated the wrong way, my mistake on the worngly drawn conclusion.

Quoting Tu154m (Reply 22):
B-19 has been shoved into the corner like in the pic for awhile. I think the tires are flat!!!

Considering the gate will now be used, that shouldn't be a problem. Just put some stairs to the jetway and have the pax board via the apron, as is standard for DCI at ATL. Unless of course DL actually wants pax to board pax on an RJ via a jetway.


User currently offlineDL763DFW From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7203 times:

Considering I worked in Zone 7 for about a year, I can tell you that it's backwards on the picture. As someone said above, B-20 takes 732's all day long. It's kind of a bitch to work that gate because you have no room to stage cargo or bags, and its very tight to even load and unload.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 19):
B-20 has been used as a mail/cargo staging area for a number of years now. Used to piss me off when my route with my previous employer was B Concourse, as they'd park mail carts where the vendors were supposed to park at

It's piss us off too when the vendors would park there because it'd make things that much more difficult. In fact, a while ago, somone was parking a 732 and didnt pay attention to a large box truck hanging over in the gate, and the wing went right thru the truck.

B-19 has been used as an area to park airstarts, lav trucks, and offloaded freight. The jetway has been pushed against the spine wall. My only problem with the whole RJ thing is that it's going to be REALLY tight trying to squeeze one in when there is a 757 next door at B-21. When B-19 was closed, they moved all the gates down a little bit to give more room to the gates. It'll be interesting to see how they fit them all in there. Just glad I'm on Int'l!


25 Gr8SlvrFlt : Were B19 and B20 the former Eastern gates? I know DL had one side and EA had the other side. Eastern had B-19 through B-36 on the north end of the con
26 PSU.DTW.SCE : I apologize, I did end up mislabeling the picture. At least we are all on the same page now. But, as you can see, we are talking about some very tight
27 ATLIEN : Hey, when did you work in zone 7 because I worked there for quite awhile myself before moving down to 8.
28 Delta767 : Do the same gate agents usually work from the same area of gates? or could they be in A one day, B the next, E, and so on...?
29 ATLIEN : Yes, currently I work in zone 8 which is gates B-25 thru 33 and B-30 thru 34, A and B concourses are seperated into four zones within each concourse
30 Post contains images DL763DFW : I worked there last bid as an ALA...from around April 05 til Dec 05. Before that I was at DN Bagpoint, and before that I was in DFW. Now I'm an ALA i
31 ATLIEN : Oh I know you, a big fan of country music right?
32 DL763DFW : Haha, well I like all kinds of music... but yeah country is at the top.
33 PeachAir : Your photo is wrong, B19 is the one on the right with the Jetway against the Building. B-19's jetway hasn't been used in 9 years ... B20 is the one o
34 PeachAir : Right now it will be Chautauqua only. DL will be boarding passengers via the stairs from the jetway and a walkway to the aircraft on the apron level,
35 N160LH : Its been awhile... But for some reason I want to say that B-21 was used as a widebody gate and because of this they shut down B-19..? I used to date a
36 DAL767400ER : If it was, it was probably long ago. From what I remember, the only gate that regularly sees widebodies at Concourse B is B1, the rest are at T, A an
37 N160LH : I think B has widebody gates at B-1, B-21, B-23, B-25, and maybe B-27.... We used to have steal LD-2 and Transportors from Domestic all the time and
38 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Could very well be, though with all the reduction in domestic widebody flying, it is doubtful that any of those gates except B1 will see widebodies a
39 DL763DFW : B-21 was never a widebody gate. At one time it could take 727s, MD88s, and DC-9s. B-19 was the same way. When B-19 was closed, everything was shifted
40 DL763DFW : I forgot to add that things have changed within the last few months in ATL with regard to where wide-bodies can park. Delta management has said they w
41 FutureFO : Actually B19/20 are more than likely going to be used for S5 when the E170 starts coming in next month. Not for CHQ. We will still be using the D conc
42 DeltaGator : Speaking of Concourse D when did mainline pull out of there and DCI take it over?
43 CIDflyer : When, or IF, does DL/ATL plan on having jet bridges for regional jets? I am really surprised they don't do this (same is true for CVG). The thing I li
44 DeltAirlines : I doubt RJs would get jetways at ATL...the way they pack those planes in, I don't really see them being able to add jetways in and still handle the a
45 FutureFO : D20 over to D35 is all DCI flights. It has been that way for about 4-5 months now. At least as long as we have been flying into ATL. Sean from MCO and
46 PeachAir : Check out Gate B-17 and B-20, Starting today, CHQ EMB-145 will start parking at these gates AND using jetway bridge adapters. This was done late last
47 DeltaGator : Ah, I see. I never seem to have flights out of any concourse other than A. Every now and then I get something in B or arrive there and just take the
48 N1120A : The 757 sits significantly higher than the 737, so it shouldn't be a real issue.
49 Positiverate : When taxiing out of ATL today there was a DCI ERJ parked at B19.
50 DeltAirlines : Saw a couple of ERJs going out of B20 while passing through ATL the other day...saw nothing at B19, but I did manage to actually see the gate...I had
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